Good try

I said we all have a moral code which differs, what some people find out of line others would not. I have not moralised but stated that I am shocked at those revelations and can now see why she is unpopular enough to end in the DO,that was a surprise to me but it is no longer.
I have said that those revelations have somewhat shocked me and put me off her a little bit, I am entitled to my views just as you are.

Why dont we discuss the thread topic...that of Natalie's personality, she is a lovely young woman who seems like a fun girl and is trying to embrace her strictly experience.

Yes , Natalie had dance training but so have plenty before her. She seems friendly, likeable and far away from smug. She works hard and even though she's not my favourite, I look forward to her dances.

Aww thats a nice post....seems we are back on topic.

Back to Natalie she is fun, hard working and seems lovely and being with my favourite pro dancer they are the perfect team. The most important she loves dancing and I only look forward to seeing her dance every week.

A conjecture. A sense of goodwill on my part mayhap?

I hope you are not, because I understood it the same way as you.

Why can't some people just focus on supporting whoever their favorite is . I feel like some fans like to vilify other contestants for whatever reason, will find anything to not like about X celebrity.
You don't have to like Natalie, Abbey....but just to find anything there is to reaffirm your dislike about that person is a bit pathetic imo ;

I happen to like Natalie and Abbey with Abbey being my favorite ( and Sophie my 2nd favorite ) .
I don't care about Abbey's past , her personal life or her relationship with her husband ; I've no preconceived notions about her; I just love her personality and dancing .
Natalie isn't one of my favorites in terms of personality but I enjoy watching her dance.

-You don't like Abbey or dislike her, good for you that's your opinion.
-You don't like Natalie personality or her dancing, good for you, that's your opinion.

But to consistently try to find anything to prove your dislike of Abbey while saying how Natalie is " wholesome " in comparison is quite pathetic imo.

Or a skit marks on the whites of their trousers.

Wonder why Abbey has not been bottom two sooner if she is so disliked?

We now approach the point where even Natalie's consistently high scores may not save her if she too lacks votes.

I agree she looks like she really enjoys it and imo she has had a positive effect on her partner he is like a different person.

Therefore you are moralising, why don't you get that? it's not hard.

It's not fair to judge people you don't know, you wouldn't like it done to you.

What do you mean Wazzy? If she comes 1st every week, surely thats enough to sail through to the final. Outside of DS there does seem a lot of support for her.

Oh come on.

Whilst I can accept that Abbey may have changed a bit, if you actually MET someone you knew was a massive coke sniffing WAG who was unfaithful on numerous public occasions to the man she is with, you might look at her askance.

Or at least, you would think mmmmm, I'll believe she's okay when I've known her for a bit like?

Wouldn't you?

Or do you take people COMPLETELY as they are? Whatever their rep?

C'mon, even if in the unlikelihood that she was in the bottom two, will she NOT be saved by the judges against ANY of the other celebrities??? Short of her breaking her back (touch wood!) she'll a dead cert for the finals.

I don't find her personality particularly engaging , in fact she is my least favorite in terms of personality of all the contestants left but I like her partnership with Artem . And I think that she is a lovely dancer

I mean we do not know how Natalie's vote holds up week on week, as she has always been safe. We only knew about Abbey this week, and the fewer couples are left even top spot is not a guarantee, though I have little doubt should Natalie end up in a dance off she would be saved.

No I am not, I have not said what she should or should not do, just that I was shocked, I have not judged her but I have gone off her a bit........lets just leave it shall we because we all go off people a little when we hear unsavoury reports that go against what we thought of a person. I dont dislike the girl and wish her well if she has changed. I would not vote for her in any case because I have a one person policy which means I only vote for my first fav..........that happens to be Natalie this year.

Please see above.

And with respect, please don't ask me to "c'mon" - I am sure you meant no offence, but it is a pet hate of mine, I find it provoking.

She's quite guarded with her personal life (it appeared) and also has an air of professionalism, dignity and enthusiasm in her engagement with the show. Yet, strangely enough, fans of her who lauded Natalie for these qualities may just be the same ones who poo-poo Susanna for being just the same (professional, dignified and enthusiastic).

He/she is entitled to her/his opinion as we all are.

But like you I said earlier, how can you say that you have your own moral opinion (which is good and fine ) and then add in the same post that you're not moralizing : contradiction.

I do apologise, but the c'mon wasn't meant to be provoking, but more like, 'I am sure you know...' in a friendly sort of way.

And I wasn't replying to your post, so the c'mon wasn't directed at you in the first place.

How do you know this though? Because the News Of The World reported it? Not the most reliable of sources.

It's right to be realistic but reasonable to give the person a chance. Face-to-face you learn more about them than through a screen. They wouldn't get too many chances, but they'd get that one.

Dunno. No one changes if everyone else keeps pushing them back to be as bad as they imagine them to be.

I respect that in both Natalie and Susannah, although I do know what you mean.