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EE says other operators won't be able to cope!!!
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japitts
06-11-2013
Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq:
“I've not been anywhere in several years that's been 2G only, at least not so far out of coverage as moving a few metres wouldn't give me 3G..”

In far-flung corners of the Scottish Highlands & Islands, such areas exist - and by their nature are geographically large.

Admittedly EE's 3G is pretty good on the main tourist routes, population centres and trunk roads around the Highlands, but that still leaves a massive area of 2G-only.. these are all areas where T-Mobile never covered and Orange never managed 3G.
qasdfdsaq
06-11-2013
Originally Posted by BKM:
“To get remotely close to the speeds people are talking of here will need a total revamp of their backhaul network!”

Well they did recently boast about buying up C&W and thus being the only operator owning a nationwide fibre backhaul network.
qasdfdsaq
06-11-2013
Originally Posted by japitts:
“In far-flung corners of the Scottish Highlands & Islands, such areas exist - and by their nature are geographically large.

Admittedly EE's 3G is pretty good on the main tourist routes, population centres and trunk roads around the Highlands, but that still leaves a massive area of 2G-only.. these are all areas where T-Mobile never covered and Orange never managed 3G.”

Even the furthest places I've been on the north coast of Scotland (e.g. Tongue and Durness) have decent 3G now...

Tourist routes perhaps...

Originally Posted by enapace:
“As said above it depends on the power that is used. UK Broadband already use 3.4GHz they have 2x20MHz in that range. Not used myself but heard it is reliable in the places you can use it. Your right it will likely only ever be used in Cities.”

Just to add to that - higher frequencies also make it easier to design reasonably sized (i.e. smaller) high gain antennas which, for fixed operations at least, often offset any range disadvantages.
uno
06-11-2013
Does anybody know why Vodafone have not started to install 2600 masts yet ? I would have thought that now they have been launched a few months and signing more users up all the time . That they would be deploying 2600 in city centres
Aye Up
07-11-2013
Originally Posted by uno:
“Does anybody know why Vodafone have not started to install 2600 masts yet ? I would have thought that now they have been launched a few months and signing more users up all the time . That they would be deploying 2600 in city centres”

Vodafone is installing a single kit which will support all of its current spectrum allocation and potentially any future one in the 700 range. 2600 isn't going to be launched until next year going by what people on here and over at Vodafone have said. 2600 is mainly for urban centres as you so describe, but it will also allow Vodafone to offer LTE Advanced.
qasdfdsaq
07-11-2013
Seeing that infrastructure's shared with O2 does that mean O2 are (jointly) paying for kit that supports frequencies they can/won't ever use?

Incidentally that'd explain Vodafone's lack of speed advantage over O2 4G at present, looks like both will be stuck on 10Mhz for now.

Shame really, as Vodafone's spectrum assets could easily have put them top of the pack for performance along with EE, instead they choose to stick themselves right at the bottom along with O2, being beat by even 3 with their measly 1/3rd spectrum.
uno
07-11-2013
Not exactly sure how the Cornerstone project works technically but i do know that around here in Leicestershire that O2 are building the network.

When they do the work and install the new updated masts they install two new big cabinets one with O2 contact details on and another with Vodafone details. On the planning applications these are detailed as Hurricane cabinets so it seems that the actual network controllers are seperate so Vodafone could use 20mhz
qasdfdsaq
07-11-2013
Vodafone cannot use 20Mhz because they don't own 20Mhz of spectrum in the 800 band. Nobody does.
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