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Will Dave Myers quit?
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Alleycat666
07-11-2013
Originally Posted by Scorpio2:
“At the minute Dave is the least deserving contestant on the show it he keeps getting voted in over the next few weeks he should do the right thing and quit.
God forbid but if he won the show would become a laughing stock because after all Strictly is a dance competition.

I remember when John Sergant quit I found a lot of respect for him because he thought of the other contestants who could dance.”

Not quite sure in what way Dave is the least deserving contestant - the Judges may put him at the bottom of the leaderboard each week (deservedly so), but whilst the GBP keep voting for him then he deserves his place.

I wouldn't be surprised if since Jon Sergant quit, the celebs have a clause in their contracts which stops them doing so unless they have an injury/personal issues (ie Kelly Brook's Father).

People spend their hard-earned money on voting and if the celebs then decide they've had enough it's an insult to those who voted.
mrs goggins
07-11-2013
I hope he won't quit.

Count me as one of the folk who voted for John Sergeant, Ann Widdecombe and now Dave!

They entertain(ed) me and I'm pleased that some of the on-screen vitriol that came John's way - James Jordan springs to mind - doesn't seem to have reared its ugly head for Dave .... yet!

I want Natalie to win, but want Dave there as long as possible.
holly berry
07-11-2013
I don't want him to quit. I just want him to be in the bottom two so we can be shut of him.
Lili27
07-11-2013
Originally Posted by Alleycat666:
“Not quite sure in what way Dave is the least deserving contestant - the Judges may put him at the bottom of the leaderboard each week (deservedly so), but whilst the GBP keep voting for him then he deserves his place.

I wouldn't be surprised if since Jon Sergant quit, the celebs have a clause in their contracts which stops them doing so unless they have an injury/personal issues (ie Kelly Brook's Father).

People spend their hard-earned money on voting and if the celebs then decide they've had enough it's an insult to those who voted.”

There is a very similar situation going on DWTS this season with a male celeb (Bill Engvall who is partnered with Emma Slater the pro that was supposed to be on SCD) who is at the bottom of the leader board every week staying in pulling votes. He is going into week 8. When a good dancer was eliminated last week Bill tried to drop out of the competion because he felt it was not right and walked over to Tom Bergeron to withdraw so the better dancer could stay.

Tom, 3 other pros and the producers stepped in to stop him and told him people vote for you because they want to see your journey. It puts a celeb in such an uncomfortable position when the voters want the celeb to stay but angers and riles the fans of other celebs who are getting better scores leave. It is just the nature of these programmes I guess.
streetwise
07-11-2013
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olivej
07-11-2013
Originally Posted by streetwise:
“Maybe what they love is humiliating him.”

why would the public loving him be humiliating for him? He knows he cant dance, he has said as much but he is trying his best, he trains for hours each day and he is putting in 100% effort - nothing at all for him to be humiliated about
Doghouse Riley
07-11-2013
I'm looking at this from a "business" point of view, which is necessary to get past all the emotion that the situation is generating.

The BBC won't want him to quit, look at all the extra publicity the show is getting caused by the controversy.
"Everything's going to plan."

Far to many competitors left in at this stage.
At some time or other, he's got to end up in the bottom two. Then he'll be off.

There would have to be a situation where his continued presence is considered to be so damaging to the show from the public's point of view that it starts reducing the ratings, before the BBC would step in and "arrange" for his deciding to withdraw, if he didn't want to go.

That just seems like common sense to me.
SCD-Observer
07-11-2013
Originally Posted by wazzyboy:
“it would appear he's already answered the question. ”

Good for him! Dave, you have every right to stay as any one else in the show thus far.
DiamondDoll
07-11-2013
Originally Posted by jinx2:
“I thought John S quitting was disgraceful.
Many people had paid hard earned money voting to keep him and Christina in the competition but instead he quit.
He said that the papers and Arlene Phillips had made him realise that it was time "he had to go". Yet he had been standing up to politicians for years.
If Dave quits it will be much the same thing, everyone who has taken time and effort and spent money to vote for him will have done so in vain.
It is one thing to be voted into the dance off but another to walk away (and that is without thinking of Karen and the time she has spent trying to teach him to dance).
Lastly, Strictly pays a fee to each contestant, a fee we the license fee payers pay. I'm getting a bit fed up with paying people for them to walk away with the money but without completing the job.”

Your post was well-worth reading.
Good one.

Btw I don't believe it was JS's decision to leave.

Of course I'm just surmising on that one.
SCD-Observer
07-11-2013
Originally Posted by olivej:
“why would the public loving him be humiliating for him? He knows he cant dance, he has said as much but he is trying his best, he trains for hours each day and he is putting in 100% effort - nothing at all for him to be humiliated about”

Exactly. I want him to stay, and said he deserves to stay like anyone else still in the show, but I won't vote for him or like his dancing. I don't enjoy humiliating him or think he feels he's humiliated. Yes, when he received comments from the judges he might feel humiliated by their comments, but Dave knows that when he decided to take part in this show.

Eating b0ll0cks in the jungle, now that IS humiliating, but even so, they celebs signing up knew exactly what they signed up for.
novice
07-11-2013
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Good for him! Dave, you have every right to stay as any one else in the show thus far. ”

^^^^ this.

BBC gave us a line up of dancers - some already good, some with no experience at all.

We have an input through our votes as to who we want to stay.

You keeeeep dancing, Dave, and - like the others - take your place under the dum dum dum spotlight of results.
wazzyboy
07-11-2013
I kind of hope he dances quite well this week, just to show that he can, even though it might (as with others) spell his demise (and perhaps some would welcome it for that very reason).
molo flapian
07-11-2013
I reckon Dave's a worthy player in this game like all the rest
and he deserves his place.
Did like his reaction in the papers:

Dave remains defiant, adding: "A few people have suggested it on Twitter but my reaction to that is they can stick their head in a bucket of custard."

btw, Custard's only £1 this week at Tesco for them who are dissing Dave on a budget xx
missfrankiecat
07-11-2013
Originally Posted by DiamondDoll:
“Your post was well-worth reading.
Good one.

Btw I don't believe it was JS's decision to leave.

Of course I'm just surmising on that one.”

It was entirely JS's decision to leave in that he had another conflicting contractual obligation to fulfill and had agreed to do SCD in the expectation that he would not last so long in the competition. The whole thing was then dressed up as a selfless renunciation when it suited all parties (except the hapless Kristina who had to go along with the charade).

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/cele...ing-drama.html
streetwise
07-11-2013
Ah, but will the people championing Dave in this thread reveal themselves to be hand wringing hypocrites when he knocks their favourite out?
SCD-Observer
07-11-2013
Originally Posted by molo flapian:
“I reckon Dave's a worthy player in this game like all the rest
and he deserves his place.
Did like his reaction in the papers:

Dave remains defiant, adding: "A few people have suggested it on Twitter but my reaction to that is they can stick their head in a bucket of custard."

btw, Custard's only £1 this week at Tesco for them who are dissing Dave on a budget xx ”

Buy those powdered one if you are an al cheapo. And then add LOTS of water, and thicken it with corn flour. Works out less than £1.75.
wazzyboy
07-11-2013
Originally Posted by streetwise:
“Ah, but will the people championing Dave in this thread reveal themselves to be hang wringing hypocrites when he knocks their favourite out?”

Not if he is their favourite and that's why they are championing him....
SCD-Observer
07-11-2013
Originally Posted by streetwise:
“Ah, but will the people championing Dave in this thread reveal themselves to be hang wringing hypocrites when he knocks their favourite out?”

He knocks their favourites out? How? By tug of war? Wrestling? Gun fight?

I don't vote, I do have my favourites (several this series!), but you should know the name of the game, eventually the better dancers will remain.
streetwise
07-11-2013
Originally Posted by wazzyboy:
“Not if he is their favourite and that's why they are championing him....”

Is he your favourite wazzyboy?
wazzyboy
07-11-2013
Originally Posted by streetwise:
“Is he your favourite wazzyboy?”

No. Why do you ask?
DiamondDoll
07-11-2013
Originally Posted by missfrankiecat:
“It was entirely JS's decision to leave in that he had another conflicting contractual obligation to fulfill and had agreed to do SCD in the expectation that he would not last so long in the competition. The whole thing was then dressed up as a selfless renunciation when it suited all parties (except the hapless Kristina who had to go along with the charade).

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/cele...ing-drama.html”

Can't see anything other than speculation/opinion in that article.

My theory (equally valid imho) is that BBC were on dangerous ground and had to encourage JS to go.
The main trouble-maker in that nastiness didn't get her contract renewed either.
Heavenly
07-11-2013
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“My sentiments too.

He's not in the loathsome camp of Widdecombe - but he doesn't have the sharp wit of John Sargeant. His 'humour' if you can call it that is laboured and like many before him clearly rehearsed i.e. the banana 'joke.'

Personally I'm sick and tired of the beeb trying to clone JS - it can't be done.

Having said that Dave was invited to compete in SCD and has every right to be in the competition and remain there for as long as his supporters vote for him.
”

This. ^^
Agent Krycek
07-11-2013
Originally Posted by DiamondDoll:
“Can't see anything other than speculation/opinion in that article.

My theory (equally valid imho) is that BBC were on dangerous ground and had to encourage JS to go.
The main trouble-maker in that nastiness didn't get her contract renewed either.”

For what it's worth, my theory has always been he couldn't handle two dances a week, which is the schedule from the point he quit - he went to the group dance rehearsal on the Monday (can be glimpsed in the training footage) and then quit on the Tuesday, plus a nicely paying gig upcoming had more to do with it then the thinking he might win line that went round.

But back to this thread - why on earth should Dave walk, he's there on merit of the public vote and so is there fairly. His entertainment factor for me died a few weeks ago, but if people are entertained by him and want to vote to keep him in, then fair enough.
BeethovensPiano
07-11-2013
They will just find a new target. I think they already have someone in their sights.
missfrankiecat
07-11-2013
Originally Posted by DiamondDoll:
“Can't see anything other than speculation/opinion in that article.

My theory (equally valid imho) is that BBC were on dangerous ground and had to encourage JS to go.
The main trouble-maker in that nastiness didn't get her contract renewed either.”

How is it speculation? He admitted in the article he has a contract - what do you think happens to people who breach their contracts? (btw he went on the cruise and gave the lectures, with a wink saying how lucky it was that his dancing was so bad people had been relieved at his 'resignation' from SCD!)
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