If Dave ends up in the DO this week he's a goner against anyone except Ben . Dave vs Ben, not sure who would be worse .

I'm sure poor Dave and Karen never expected such a backlash from certain quarters . I'm just not sure how they stand with some of the voting public this week . So the results show should reveal all .

Thank you for that post.
I knew it wasn't as the poster had claimed and I still believe that JS was asked to withdraw because the BBC were deluged with complaints about the wicked nastiness displayed by Arlene Phillips.
She certainly hasn't worked for the BBC since that episode and I doubt she ever will in the future.

Single handedly AP dragged SCD into disrepute and the BBC will not want a repeat of that.

Anyway Dave has his part to play and he'll be there until he's in the bottom two.....and that is exactly the way it should be.

Good luck on Saturday Dave in the unlikely event of you reading this.

How sad that some of Dave's supporters are now turning on another contestant rather address the matter in hand.

What on earth has Ben got to do with whether or not Dave should quit? Ben and his supporters aren't hounding Dave on Twitter.

Or are you just worried that Ben might be polling more votes from viewers than Dave ...?

BIB 1 - I believe So You Think You Can Dance was a BBC show - Arlene judged on that.

BIB2 - I agree, he has as much right to be there as anyone else while people are still voting for him.

Apologies.

I stand corrected.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00tqkyx

Please ignore my error.

They are both fine fellows but equally rubbish dancers and will always be so - and some of us have been wasting time arguing which of them is slightly better or worse than the other.

Bringing Ben in here saves having to start another thread "Should Ben Quit".

But neither should quit. They have been carefully selected to perform as cupboards / lampposts by the producers. It is very difficult to learn musicality and rhythm.

At least neither of them takes themselves seriously like Little Lisa from Manchester did.

But some cupboards end up winning - i.e. Darren Gough.

Dance terms, they are just about equal, with Ben edges Dave a little because at least he has rhythm, though Kristina choreographes the routines such that he just stands there looking pretty.

I heart your humour, my forum friend.

Thank you

BIB: yeah, right.

Why try and deflect how bad Dave is by pretending another contestant is at the same level?

I think I was right first time: you're just worried Ben may be polling more votes than Dave. It's that old DS Strictly forum chestnut: 'My favourite could be in danger - quick, let's slag off someone else and try and take attention away from them'.

But you are right about one thing: some cupboards do end up winning, and if Dave (or Ben) make the final, there will be a lot of people in meltdown on here ...

You are reading me completely wrong there Servalan . I'm not a fan of Dave or Ben or anyone this year . I think Dave and Ben are great for taking part in SCD . I don't like the way both of their pro's have gone about teaching them .

The point I'm making is that Dave and Ben are now the two worst contestants left in respect of their dance ability .

Being rather indolent, I quite like Dave's dances. It gives me the chance to go out to the kitchen in order to miss it and re-charge my glass. Mind you I do the same when Ben dances, so here's hoping they're not back to back this Saturday or I'll end up a dipso

This all seems to be over analysing....

Isn't it possible that people just like him..? A true example;

My mum in law loves the hairy bikers - she's old so I forgive her that. She adores him on SCD and laughs at his attempts and his comments. She doesn't easily vote but she does for him. In her view it would be a shame if he leaves. She watches SCD just as an entertainment programme - not for the dancing skills, but as a bit of fun and she enjoys Dave so votes for him. And, she will be genuinely sad when he goes - as she says, he's not doing any harm as Rachael would never have won. I haven't asked how she'd feel if he made it to final....but I'm sure she'd still support him.

The hairy bikers are really popular - getting her tickets for their live shows is no mean feat - so Dave might just have a popular vote - prob a few trolls voting as well, but if people enjoy seeing him there then he should stay. Let's face it, it's not really a dance show - otherwise they would not have got him on there in the first place..

Yeah. Good point. He's got a great sense of enthusiasm and comes across as a really nice guy who clearly loves trying to learn dancing even though he knows he isn't isn't technically any good. That's why there's just something pleasant and satisfying about watching him, that isn't there with the more accomplished contestants.

(I don't think he should win, of course, but I'd like to see him reach the quarter finals before being voted out. That would feel right.)

Why should he quit? it would be letting down all the people who vote for him. He clearly enjoys the experience so he can stay as long as people vote for him - reckon it'll be another couple of weeks yet.

I agree. He looked subdued last week.

He deserves his place as long as people keep voting for him, though I'd be happy enough to see him eliminated in the next couple of weeks.

I think people underestimate the voters sometimes. The public like to see a comedy element or a real character get to Wembley. It may mean a few arguably better dancers get left by the wayside but not usually anyone truly fancied to win.

As for the question, no Dave should definitely not quit.

What a lovely post! I like your MIL!

Another lovely post! I totally agree.

Deborah had the same attitude (although she was a better dancer) and IMO, that pure enjoyment counts for something in the early stages.

I really don't think Dave should step down at all.

Absolutely, I don't give a monkies how long he stays in to be honest

^

Growl. What's with all the anti-monkey on this forum?? We have feelings too, y'know?

oh.... don't worry I will vote for you this weekend!!!

Well I adored watching Rachel's partnership with Pasha and her attempts to perform a decent routine.
The will-she-or-won't-she anticipation of each dance gave me a bit of interest and I thought it was a shame when she left- I was genuinely sad and it wouldn't have hurt if Dave had gone instead as he isn't going to win.



If a significant number of 'gary's mum-in-law's voted to keep him in then there is an argument to say he should respect their choice,not listen to the clamour of "out,out,out" as this is not Big Brother.

I forgot to enter but ta anyway, Pashoo

Worse than Fiona and Mark, both of whom are extremely patchy? (And Mark is clearly hampered by the producers being unable to make up their minds whether or not they want him to be a comedy contestant)

Nah. Not buying it. Ben certainly has shades of Kenny Logan - but Kenny lasted for quite a while ...