Moto G Versus iPhone 5c

alanwarwic · 09-11-2013, 00:58

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/new...er-launch.html

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/new...his-month.html

The range of colours shown hints at the 5c target market, as does the smaller 720p 4.5" spec.

27yffuh · 09-11-2013, 00:58

might be tempted to get one at £135

alanwarwic · 09-11-2013, 16:37

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/moto...aled-50012698/

"white, hot pink, luminous turquoise and regal blue."

www.moto-g.com/
Maybe exclusive to Phones 4u on Wednesday

alanwarwic · 11-11-2013, 11:40

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00ECBREB6/

Amazona are asking £159 with a "Pre-order Price Guarantee".

"Sharpest 4.5 HD screen
All day quad core speed
Advanced Android with guaranteed upgrade
Personalize coloured backs"

In a sort of way it sounds like a straight Nexus 4 replacement, with no LTE too !

alanwarwic · 11-11-2013, 16:58

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-576...tly-taken-down

Was that another marketing gimmick?
Like the N5 is seen as a budget LG G2 this is being seen as a budget Moto X.

kidspud · 11-11-2013, 17:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00ECBREB6/

Amazona are asking £159 with a "Pre-order Price Guarantee".

"Sharpest 4.5 HD screen
All day quad core speed
Advanced Android with guaranteed upgrade
Personalize coloured backs"

In a sort of way it sounds like a straight Nexus 4 replacement, with no LTE too !

Wonder what "all day quad core speed" and "advanced android with guaranteed upgrade means"?

swordman · 11-11-2013, 19:04

8gb will be very upsetting in 2013

as almost certainly no sd support

alan1302 · 11-11-2013, 19:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidspud

Wonder what "all day quad core speed" and "advanced android with guaranteed upgrade means"?

'd guess all day Quad Core Speed means that it's got a decent battery life on it even in use and the guaranteed updates must mean it will get a certain number of guaranteed updates from Google/Motorola

konebyvax · 11-11-2013, 21:44

Quote:

The Moto G will come in at a price of 159.99 pounds ($255), according to the Amazon UK page. It will feature 16GB of RAM, a 4.5-inch HD display, and a quad-core processor.

Blimey

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-576...ly-taken-down/

swordman · 11-11-2013, 22:47

Good if indeed 16gb, the leaked phones 4 u add quoted 8gb which would be frankly ridiculous.

qasdfdsaq · 12-11-2013, 02:12

Of RAM? Of course it's ridiculous. Anything over 2GB is pointless.

kidspud · 12-11-2013, 07:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Of RAM? Of course it's ridiculous. Anything over 2GB is pointless.

Maybe they are getting ready for 64bit architecture

swordman · 12-11-2013, 09:06

You think it's a possibility that the Moto G will be 64 bit? No I think your getting a little confused here

psionic · 12-11-2013, 09:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Of RAM? Of course it's ridiculous. Anything over 2GB is pointless.

Surely they mean storage. i.e. the slow Flash memory rather then the internal fast DRAM.

kidspud · 12-11-2013, 09:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordman

You think it's a possibility that the Moto G will be 64 bit? No I think your getting a little confused here

Whoosh. Right over the top of your head

swordman · 12-11-2013, 10:22

Much like everything you say spuddie, perhaps we might get later some more bewildering facts on the amazing s4 price drops. That's always amusing and seems to fit into any thread

finbaar · 12-11-2013, 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordman

Good if indeed 16gb, the leaked phones 4 u add quoted 8gb which would be frankly ridiculous.

Why would 8gb of RAM be ridiculous? And why do you need 16gb of RAM? I'm pretty sure the moto G will be 32 bit so the maximum it can address is 4gb anyway.

swordman · 12-11-2013, 14:33

I think it pretty obvious (at least one would hope) that the article when referring to RAM means storage. I assumed that was obvious and my reference to 8gb/16gb was in the context of storage.

I don't think we shall see a phone with 16gb of RAM for a while yet

alanwarwic · 13-11-2013, 19:00

This seems to be more pure Android c/w a Kitkat upgrade by the new year.

"saying it's the “best in class” and pointing out that its 329ppi pixel density is higher than what you get on an Apple iPhone 5S."
The 'best in class' seems to exclude the HD phones so I guess it is the sub £200 class.
I'd assume you can buy different coloured back panels for it.

A major fail is that apparently, the SD slot is missing. Unusual for a Motorola phone.

swordman · 13-11-2013, 19:36

probably not now Google have snapped them up, the X didn't have one.

Still 16gb for £159 is very very good for this phone.

alanwarwic · 13-11-2013, 20:15

Yes, £160 is the 16GB price.
The 8GB one for £130.

So is the smaller lower resolution 5c worth another £300+ ?

BTW that 'all-day' thingy refers to the high 14 hour talk time, amongst maybe other things.

kidspud · 13-11-2013, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Yes, £160 is the 16GB price.
The 8GB one for £130.

So is the smaller lower resolution 5c worth another £300+ ?

BTW that 'all-day' thingy refers to the high 14 hour talk time, amongst maybe other things.

I can't imagine those that are buying cheap smartphones and those buying apple products are the same market.

konebyvax · 13-11-2013, 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidspud

I can't imagine those that are buying cheap smartphones and those buying apple products are the same market.

Mr and Mrs Smith could buy a 16GB Moto G each and still have approx £150 cash in their hands compared to buying one 5C. Even aspirational idiots will eventually have a light bulb moment, you would suspect.

Perhaps you could tell me where the extra £300 has been spent on the 5C compared to the Moto G? B*ggered if I can see it.

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3...&idPhone2=5690

kidspud · 13-11-2013, 20:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by konebyvax

Mr and Mrs Smith could buy a 16GB Moto G each and still have approx £150 cash in their hands compared to buying one 5C. Even aspirational idiots will eventually have a light bulb moment, you would suspect.

Perhaps you could tell me where the extra £300 has been spent on the 5C compared to the Moto G? B*ggered if I can see it.

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3...&idPhone2=5690

Then as I've already said, mr and mrs smith are not in the market for an iPhone.

I do like that you consider anyone who doesn't agree to be an idiot.

Having not held or used either device I couldn't tell you if I consider one to be of higher quality and worth the extra. However, I wouldn't judge on specs, as that is shown so often to be one of the worst measures.

TheSloth · 13-11-2013, 20:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by konebyvax

Mr and Mrs Smith could buy a 16GB Moto G each and still have approx £150 cash in their hands compared to buying one 5C. Even aspirational idiots will eventually have a light bulb moment, you would suspect.

Perhaps you could tell me where the extra £300 has been spent on the 5C compared to the Moto G?

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3...&idPhone2=5690

The people who'd buy an iPhone 5c over a Moto G are the same type of people who buy headphones endorsed by rap artists - the fact a decent alternative exists at a much lower price is immaterial as they believe it's a status symbol. Their Filofax owning forefathers will be proud!

The 5c is a pink/lime/yellow/blue/white elephant of a device - a budget phone at a premium price. I'd rather have it the other way around. So would the general public, if sales forecasts are to be believed.

09-11-2013, 00:58	#1
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Moto G Versus iPhone 5c http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/new...er-launch.html http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/new...his-month.html The range of colours shown hints at the 5c target market, as does the smaller 720p 4.5" spec.

09-11-2013, 00:58	#2
27yffuh Inactive Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 373	might be tempted to get one at £135

09-11-2013, 16:37	#3
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/moto...aled-50012698/ "white, hot pink, luminous turquoise and regal blue." www.moto-g.com/ Maybe exclusive to Phones 4u on Wednesday

11-11-2013, 11:40	#4
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00ECBREB6/ Amazona are asking £159 with a "Pre-order Price Guarantee". "Sharpest 4.5 HD screen All day quad core speed Advanced Android with guaranteed upgrade Personalize coloured backs" In a sort of way it sounds like a straight Nexus 4 replacement, with no LTE too !

11-11-2013, 16:58	#5
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-576...tly-taken-down Was that another marketing gimmick? Like the N5 is seen as a budget LG G2 this is being seen as a budget Moto X.

11-11-2013, 17:32	#6
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00ECBREB6/ Amazona are asking £159 with a "Pre-order Price Guarantee". "Sharpest 4.5 HD screen All day quad core speed Advanced Android with guaranteed upgrade Personalize coloured backs" In a sort of way it sounds like a straight Nexus 4 replacement, with no LTE too ! Wonder what "all day quad core speed" and "advanced android with guaranteed upgrade means"?

11-11-2013, 19:04	#7
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	8gb will be very upsetting in 2013 as almost certainly no sd support

11-11-2013, 19:32	#8
alan1302 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Yorks Posts: 6,180	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud Wonder what "all day quad core speed" and "advanced android with guaranteed upgrade means"? 'd guess all day Quad Core Speed means that it's got a decent battery life on it even in use and the guaranteed updates must mean it will get a certain number of guaranteed updates from Google/Motorola

11-11-2013, 21:44	#9
konebyvax Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ignoringtrollsville Posts: 7,875	Quote: The Moto G will come in at a price of 159.99 pounds ($255), according to the Amazon UK page. It will feature 16GB of RAM, a 4.5-inch HD display, and a quad-core processor. Blimey http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-576...ly-taken-down/

11-11-2013, 22:47	#10
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Good if indeed 16gb, the leaked phones 4 u add quoted 8gb which would be frankly ridiculous.

12-11-2013, 02:12	#11
qasdfdsaq Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,286	Of RAM? Of course it's ridiculous. Anything over 2GB is pointless.

12-11-2013, 07:08	#12
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq Of RAM? Of course it's ridiculous. Anything over 2GB is pointless. Maybe they are getting ready for 64bit architecture

12-11-2013, 09:06	#13
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	You think it's a possibility that the Moto G will be 64 bit? No I think your getting a little confused here

12-11-2013, 09:10	#14
psionic Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Crystal Palace TX Posts: 19,702	Quote: Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq Of RAM? Of course it's ridiculous. Anything over 2GB is pointless. Surely they mean storage. i.e. the slow Flash memory rather then the internal fast DRAM.

12-11-2013, 09:36	#15
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman You think it's a possibility that the Moto G will be 64 bit? No I think your getting a little confused here Whoosh. Right over the top of your head

12-11-2013, 10:22	#16
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Much like everything you say spuddie, perhaps we might get later some more bewildering facts on the amazing s4 price drops. That's always amusing and seems to fit into any thread

12-11-2013, 12:23	#17
finbaar Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,921	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman Good if indeed 16gb, the leaked phones 4 u add quoted 8gb which would be frankly ridiculous. Why would 8gb of RAM be ridiculous? And why do you need 16gb of RAM? I'm pretty sure the moto G will be 32 bit so the maximum it can address is 4gb anyway.

12-11-2013, 14:33	#18
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	I think it pretty obvious (at least one would hope) that the article when referring to RAM means storage. I assumed that was obvious and my reference to 8gb/16gb was in the context of storage. I don't think we shall see a phone with 16gb of RAM for a while yet

13-11-2013, 19:00	#19
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	This seems to be more pure Android c/w a Kitkat upgrade by the new year. "saying it's the “best in class” and pointing out that its 329ppi pixel density is higher than what you get on an Apple iPhone 5S." The 'best in class' seems to exclude the HD phones so I guess it is the sub £200 class. I'd assume you can buy different coloured back panels for it. A major fail is that apparently, the SD slot is missing. Unusual for a Motorola phone.

13-11-2013, 19:36	#20
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	probably not now Google have snapped them up, the X didn't have one. Still 16gb for £159 is very very good for this phone.

13-11-2013, 20:15	#21
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Yes, £160 is the 16GB price. The 8GB one for £130. So is the smaller lower resolution 5c worth another £300+ ? BTW that 'all-day' thingy refers to the high 14 hour talk time, amongst maybe other things.

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13-11-2013, 20:22	#22
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Yes, £160 is the 16GB price. The 8GB one for £130. So is the smaller lower resolution 5c worth another £300+ ? BTW that 'all-day' thingy refers to the high 14 hour talk time, amongst maybe other things. I can't imagine those that are buying cheap smartphones and those buying apple products are the same market.

13-11-2013, 20:33	#23
konebyvax Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ignoringtrollsville Posts: 7,875	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud I can't imagine those that are buying cheap smartphones and those buying apple products are the same market. Mr and Mrs Smith could buy a 16GB Moto G each and still have approx £150 cash in their hands compared to buying one 5C. Even aspirational idiots will eventually have a light bulb moment, you would suspect. Perhaps you could tell me where the extra £300 has been spent on the 5C compared to the Moto G? B*ggered if I can see it. http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3...&idPhone2=5690

13-11-2013, 20:44	#24
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by konebyvax Mr and Mrs Smith could buy a 16GB Moto G each and still have approx £150 cash in their hands compared to buying one 5C. Even aspirational idiots will eventually have a light bulb moment, you would suspect. Perhaps you could tell me where the extra £300 has been spent on the 5C compared to the Moto G? B*ggered if I can see it. http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3...&idPhone2=5690 Then as I've already said, mr and mrs smith are not in the market for an iPhone. I do like that you consider anyone who doesn't agree to be an idiot. Having not held or used either device I couldn't tell you if I consider one to be of higher quality and worth the extra. However, I wouldn't judge on specs, as that is shown so often to be one of the worst measures.

13-11-2013, 20:47	#25
TheSloth Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Under Your Bed Posts: 5,508	Quote: Originally Posted by konebyvax Mr and Mrs Smith could buy a 16GB Moto G each and still have approx £150 cash in their hands compared to buying one 5C. Even aspirational idiots will eventually have a light bulb moment, you would suspect. Perhaps you could tell me where the extra £300 has been spent on the 5C compared to the Moto G? http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3...&idPhone2=5690 The people who'd buy an iPhone 5c over a Moto G are the same type of people who buy headphones endorsed by rap artists - the fact a decent alternative exists at a much lower price is immaterial as they believe it's a status symbol. Their Filofax owning forefathers will be proud! The 5c is a pink/lime/yellow/blue/white elephant of a device - a budget phone at a premium price. I'd rather have it the other way around. So would the general public, if sales forecasts are to be believed.