I sometimes wonder if the pros ever think of sitting their celeb partners down in front of dvds - or youtube - and showing them what the various dances should look like. I'm sure if they could get a picture in their mind it would help them interpret their own dances.
OH Dear Mark
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Originally Posted by Sho Nuff:
“Not a good night for Mark at all, sadly. Craig is right about those hands, he still hasn't done anything to correct the shaping. Plus, what confused me, he was portraying Blofeld and his puddy cat but dancing to Goldfinger ??? Blofeld was in several Bond movies, but not Goldfinger.”
“Not a good night for Mark at all, sadly. Craig is right about those hands, he still hasn't done anything to correct the shaping. Plus, what confused me, he was portraying Blofeld and his puddy cat but dancing to Goldfinger ??? Blofeld was in several Bond movies, but not Goldfinger.”
Oh yes he was, like really, bit embarrassed for you
(Film Goldfinger - title sung by Shirley Bassey)
Originally Posted by kaycee:
“I sometimes wonder if the pros ever think of sitting their celeb partners down in front of dvds - or youtube - and showing them what the various dances should look like. I'm sure if they could get a picture in their mind it would help them interpret their own dances.”
“I sometimes wonder if the pros ever think of sitting their celeb partners down in front of dvds - or youtube - and showing them what the various dances should look like. I'm sure if they could get a picture in their mind it would help them interpret their own dances.”
That always puzzles me when dancers (and some pros even) don't seem to get what the dance is about - just go on youtube for a bit - and wikki, it ain't rocket science.
Originally Posted by Poena:
“I just wonder how much influence TPTB may be having on how Mark is 'postitoned' in the competition. Unless proven otherwise, I'll never be convinced that Iveta was responsible for last week's paso - music, costume, the lot - and I have my doubts about this week, too.
She seemed to be showing real empathy with Mark over the first few weeks - that such empathy might have simply evaporated makes me somewhat suspicious.
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“I just wonder how much influence TPTB may be having on how Mark is 'postitoned' in the competition. Unless proven otherwise, I'll never be convinced that Iveta was responsible for last week's paso - music, costume, the lot - and I have my doubts about this week, too.
She seemed to be showing real empathy with Mark over the first few weeks - that such empathy might have simply evaporated makes me somewhat suspicious.
”
What does TPTB mean?
Originally Posted by snogglewort:
“I voted for Mark tonight, not because I enjoyed the dance but because I like him and I feel he wants to dance all the dances properly and looks genuinely crestfallen when the judges are harsh
That rumba would have been a lot better without the ridiculous fancy dress aspect. Its frustrating that they feel the need to make the fat contestants the joke all the time
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“I voted for Mark tonight, not because I enjoyed the dance but because I like him and I feel he wants to dance all the dances properly and looks genuinely crestfallen when the judges are harsh
That rumba would have been a lot better without the ridiculous fancy dress aspect. Its frustrating that they feel the need to make the fat contestants the joke all the time
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I agree; I wish he & Iveta would ditch this aspect. But I wonder to what extent the production team are pushing them in this direction each week for the 'entertainment value'? Also, rumba is a horrible dance for celeb men at the best of times, but when you're Mark's shape I can imagine he might feel even more vulnerable and exposed - so hiding inside a character might have given him a measure of protection? But I still think they judged it wrong.
Originally Posted by Sho Nuff:
“Not a good night for Mark at all, sadly. Craig is right about those hands, he still hasn't done anything to correct the shaping. Plus, what confused me, he was portraying Blofeld and his puddy cat but dancing to Goldfinger ??? Blofeld was in several Bond movies, but not Goldfinger.”
“Not a good night for Mark at all, sadly. Craig is right about those hands, he still hasn't done anything to correct the shaping. Plus, what confused me, he was portraying Blofeld and his puddy cat but dancing to Goldfinger ??? Blofeld was in several Bond movies, but not Goldfinger.”
Unfortunately he would probably look even less like Christopher Lee as Francisco Scaramanga.
At least there was a Bond connection
Originally Posted by DiamondDoll:
“What does TPTB mean?”
“What does TPTB mean?
”
The powers that be. Them what direct the narrative of the show - the producers, the BBC.
Originally Posted by Poena:
“The powers that be. Them what direct the narrative of the show - the producers, the BBC.”
“The powers that be. Them what direct the narrative of the show - the producers, the BBC.
”
Thank you.
Originally Posted by nanscombe:
“Unfortunately he would probably look even less like Christopher Lee as Francisco Scaramanga.
At least there was a Bond connection”
“Unfortunately he would probably look even less like Christopher Lee as Francisco Scaramanga.
At least there was a Bond connection”
Was he the one with three nipples?
Could have made a bit of a feature.
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Oh yes he was, like really, bit embarrassed for you
(Film Goldfinger - title sung by Shirley Bassey)”
“Oh yes he was, like really, bit embarrassed for you
(Film Goldfinger - title sung by Shirley Bassey)”
I beg to differ. I double checked IMDB cast list for Goldfinger and see no mention of the character. On Wiki,it lists the JB films and novels he was in and no Goldfinger. But hey, if I'm definitely wrong then I hold my hands up
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“That always puzzles me when dancers (and some pros even) don't seem to get what the dance is about - just go on youtube for a bit - and wikki, it ain't rocket science.”
“That always puzzles me when dancers (and some pros even) don't seem to get what the dance is about - just go on youtube for a bit - and wikki, it ain't rocket science.”
The pros will know what the 10 standard dances are all about, but won't necessarily have danced AT, AS or Charleston.
While the celebs will probably have some idea what a waltz, foxtrot or tango looks like, they may never even have seen a rumba or samba, or even heard of a paso doble! As you say wikki can explain what a dance is about, but more importantly youtube can show them what it is meant to look like.
Originally Posted by pabird:
“As a member of the its a dance contest I still like Mark and have enjoyed his performances to date
But tonight? awful terrible routine and a terrible performance
I really thought he would be the worst of the night but as I type Dave is on??”
“As a member of the its a dance contest I still like Mark and have enjoyed his performances to date
But tonight? awful terrible routine and a terrible performance
I really thought he would be the worst of the night but as I type Dave is on??”
The sad thing is he is capable of so much more, but they still want him to act the buffoon,albeit a calmer one this week, but still out of place, let the guy dance....! Please...!
Originally Posted by Kayjay2405:
“Mark looked like Uncle Fester and gave me the creeps tonight, sadly.”
“Mark looked like Uncle Fester and gave me the creeps tonight, sadly.”
He should have been styled as James Bond, not an Egghead
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Like many, I'm disappointed with Iveta tonight.
Mark could do perpetual motion, he didn't need the silly gimmick, and it pissed me off.
I threw a vote Marks way because he is better than that”
“Like many, I'm disappointed with Iveta tonight.
Mark could do perpetual motion, he didn't need the silly gimmick, and it pissed me off.
I threw a vote Marks way because he is better than that”
I gave him a vote as well.... he is much better than that dance.....
and, as others have said on here, I wonder how much Iveta's choreography is limited by what TPTB tell her they want to see...
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Like many, I'm disappointed with Iveta tonight.
Mark could do perpetual motion, he didn't need the silly gimmick, and it pissed me off.
I threw a vote Marks way because he is better than that.”
“Like many, I'm disappointed with Iveta tonight.
Mark could do perpetual motion, he didn't need the silly gimmick, and it pissed me off.
I threw a vote Marks way because he is better than that.”
Sums it up for me . I thought he was a bit ridiculed tonight with the odd sniggers you could hear from the audience too .Think Iveta's choreography has really gone downhill, for him at least ,
last couple of weeks . Threw him a vote too .
Originally Posted by daisysnowland:
“He should have been styled as James Bond, not an Egghead”
“He should have been styled as James Bond, not an Egghead”
Absolutely. Far, far more appropriate.
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Was he the one with three nipples?
Could have made a bit of a feature.”
“Was he the one with three nipples?
Could have made a bit of a feature.”
Yes that was Scaramanga.
Quote:
“Scaramanga is the Bond villain from ''The Man with the Golden Gun'' and the title character. He was raised in a travelling circus and was a spectacular trick-shot artiste by his teens, when he discovered how much he enjoyed killing people after murdering a policeman.
…
He has a third nipple a "superfluous papilla or mammary gland" next to his left one. In some cultures it is seen as a potent symbol of sexual prowess and invulnerability. Scaramanga only has sex before a kill and fetishises his gun in the act. His (latest) girlfriend, Andrea Anders, has come to fear and hate him, and uses his obsession with Bond to try to rid herself of Scaramanga.”
“Scaramanga is the Bond villain from ''The Man with the Golden Gun'' and the title character. He was raised in a travelling circus and was a spectacular trick-shot artiste by his teens, when he discovered how much he enjoyed killing people after murdering a policeman.
…
He has a third nipple a "superfluous papilla or mammary gland" next to his left one. In some cultures it is seen as a potent symbol of sexual prowess and invulnerability. Scaramanga only has sex before a kill and fetishises his gun in the act. His (latest) girlfriend, Andrea Anders, has come to fear and hate him, and uses his obsession with Bond to try to rid herself of Scaramanga.”
Ernst Stavro Blofeld was the baldy (sometimes) with the white pussy, as has been mentioned, he wasn't in the film "The Man with the Golden Gun" though.
When they didn't have a picture of Mark on the dress rehearsals I KNEW he was going to be bald & my heart sank from that point. He would have been so much better in a tux & his hair under control. I hope they are safe & get it right next week
I was very disappointed with Mark's rumba. It was always going to be a tough dance for a man of his bulk, and I guess Iveta did what she could by giving him a character that would be memorable, even if his dance moves weren't.
But where in previous weeks I've felt Mark made a real effort to get the moves right, he could have done a lot more with this rumba. As one of the judges (Darcey?) pointed out, he should have been in perpetual motion, not stopping every now and then (why? to feed the cat? empty its dirt tray? I think we should be told).
Such a shame, but I think Mark may be in danger. I wouldn't be surprised to see him and Fiona in the dance-off.
But where in previous weeks I've felt Mark made a real effort to get the moves right, he could have done a lot more with this rumba. As one of the judges (Darcey?) pointed out, he should have been in perpetual motion, not stopping every now and then (why? to feed the cat? empty its dirt tray? I think we should be told).
Such a shame, but I think Mark may be in danger. I wouldn't be surprised to see him and Fiona in the dance-off.
Along with others, I spent his whole dance perplexed as to why he was dressed as a completely irrelevant Bond villain. Surely either dress as Bond or dress as Goldfinger, not as a character from a different movie. Just bizarre.
Originally Posted by Sho Nuff:
“I beg to differ. I double checked IMDB cast list for Goldfinger and see no mention of the character. On Wiki,it lists the JB films and novels he was in and no Goldfinger. But hey, if I'm definitely wrong then I hold my hands up”
“I beg to differ. I double checked IMDB cast list for Goldfinger and see no mention of the character. On Wiki,it lists the JB films and novels he was in and no Goldfinger. But hey, if I'm definitely wrong then I hold my hands up
”
You are right. Blofeld was not in Goldfinger. The look they were going for was Donald Pleasence who played Blofeld in You Only Live Twice. Unfortunately it looked terrible and we got the parody version which was Dr Evil from Austin Powers!
It was terrible and looked too jokey which detracted from the dance. They should have left the dressing up box alone.
It's a male celeb doing a Rhumba. They are always embarrassing if you can't pull them off and in general I would pay good money not to see them. Good flexibility seems to be a requirement for any rhumba and Mark has zero flexibility. He actually wasn't as bad as I thought he might be, nor as bad as Dave will be.
Would anyone else like to see rhumbas taken out of the show or replaced with real rhumbas that actually used to be danced on a night out? (so I'm told)
Would anyone else like to see rhumbas taken out of the show or replaced with real rhumbas that actually used to be danced on a night out? (so I'm told)
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