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Old 09-11-2013, 20:12
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How can those of us with SKY watch it in 3D?

Will it be put on the iplayer in 3D?

Thanks.
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:40
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I'm a Sky viewer but also have Freeview with Red Button HD, so that's whst I would have used. At the 50th in Excel so will get the 3D blu-ray...
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:18
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LOL OP! Only the people watching at the cinemas will see the ep in 3D - i.e. with glasses, the rest will be sticking to either HD on BBC One HD or the normal BBC One version.
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Old 10-11-2013, 09:58
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Really? I won't be paying extra to see something on the license fee. I'm going to be out and don't have a freeview recorder.
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Old 10-11-2013, 10:03
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LOL OP! Only the people watching at the cinemas will see the ep in 3D - i.e. with glasses, the rest will be sticking to either HD on BBC One HD or the normal BBC One version.
Pretty sure that the BBC have said they will be using the HD red button channel for the 3D showing. They have done this before for tennis and other things.
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Old 10-11-2013, 11:02
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How can those of us with SKY watch it in 3D?

Will it be put on the iplayer in 3D?

Thanks.
Unless your tv has a freeview HD red button service it's unlikely you'll have a 3D broadcast (bbc don't like to make it easy for viewers).

The beeb seems to not want people to watch the 3D version (if it was a success then they'd look a bit silly for dropping support for the format).

It's a real shame the BBC don't appear to have got their finger out to get it on Sky (given sky is the only servce that has a dedicated 3D channel..and therefore is the most popular 3D broadcaster). Of course they may be hoping that making the 3D version hard to view will boost blu-ray sales.

I'd hope it might at least turn up on the iplayer via Sky On Demand ...but I doubt it.

I daresay most people with 3D TV's may end up downloading it illegally..as that could well be the quickest and easiest way to actually see the 3D version.
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Old 10-11-2013, 11:29
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I have freeview HD red button but no freeview recorder. If it is only shown in 3D once i guess i won't see it in 3D. Oh well.
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Old 10-11-2013, 11:32
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LOL OP! Only the people watching at the cinemas will see the ep in 3D - i.e. with glasses, the rest will be sticking to either HD on BBC One HD or the normal BBC One version.
It's on Freeview HD red button, Freesat and Virgin in 3D.
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Old 10-11-2013, 11:33
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Unless your tv has a freeview HD red button service it's unlikely you'll have a 3D broadcast (bbc don't like to make it easy for viewers).

The beeb seems to not want people to watch the 3D version (if it was a success then they'd look a bit silly for dropping support for the format).

It's a real shame the BBC don't appear to have got their finger out to get it on Sky (given sky is the only servce that has a dedicated 3D channel..and therefore is the most popular 3D broadcaster). Of course they may be hoping that making the 3D version hard to view will boost blu-ray sales.

I'd hope it might at least turn up on the iplayer via Sky On Demand ...but I doubt it.

I daresay most people with 3D TV's may end up downloading it illegally..as that could well be the quickest and easiest way to actually see the 3D version.
Great post. Spot on, every point.
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:43
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Great post. Spot on, every point.
Except that, as you have been active in a number of recent discussions around this matter, you know that it seems to be Sky that is the stumbling block (i.e. the charge that they wish to impose upon the BBC), as well as the lack of playout facilities for a suitable 3D feed on anything other than the Red Button HD service (without turning BBC Two over to Doctor Who as well as BBC one).
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Old 10-11-2013, 14:02
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I wonder if there will be a spike in the sale of 3D sets in the run up to broadcast? Is anyone planning to get one, (or being mithered by kids to get one)?
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Old 10-11-2013, 14:59
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I wonder if there will be a spike in the sale of 3D sets in the run up to broadcast? Is anyone planning to get one, (or being mithered by kids to get one)?
Half of the estimated 1.5 million households in the UK with a 3D-enabled television watched last summer's Olympics opening ceremony in 3D.

The BBC said 3D viewing figures for the Queen's Christmas Message and the children's drama Mr Stink were "even more disappointing", with just 5% of potential viewers tuning in over the Christmas period.

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"After that we will see what happens when the recession ends and there may be more take up of sets, but I think the BBC will be having a wait-and-see. It's the right time for a good old pause," she said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23195479

In view of that, I doubt it very much.
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Old 10-11-2013, 16:35
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I think we all know that BBC is 'suspending' it's 3D trial, but they are not the only source of 3D content. Most of the 3D I watch is BR or OD and not broadcast.

About this time last year I wanted to upgrade to HD & Blu Ray and went looking at options. As it turned out there was a great deal, on a brand I trust, for the spec I was after and the same deal was only about 80 more to go 3D. So I went 3D but wasn't really bothered if it never got used, regarding it as a gimmick... but you never know. I had HD for Christmas, which is all I wanted. People often 'upgrade' for Christmas, etc. so it will be interesting to see if more people are tempted to part with a few extra quid and go 3D because of Doctor Who.

Certainly in our house, 3D is an 'event' when it gets used and will never be an everyday way to watch telly. But there really hasn't been a 'killer app.' that sells it. With black and white 2D DVD's of Doctor Who 'delighting' the Beeb because they outperformed their Olympics DVD' s, perhaps Doctor Who would have been a better way to promote it in the first place and not as the last act of a 'failed' experiment?
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Old 10-11-2013, 16:49
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As you will know, the 3D trial was only going to be a two-year one (which began at the end of 2011), so the DW 50th would have come towards the end of that trial regardless.


I don't intend to reopen the 3D debate again, but the fact is that broadcast TV viewing figures have been disappointing to say the least, and overall 3D remains a niche product in spite of the efforts of Sky and the BBC.
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Old 10-11-2013, 16:55
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Is it not going to be in 3D on cable then? Or do we not know for certain yet?
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Old 10-11-2013, 16:59
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Is it not going to be in 3D on cable then? Or do we not know for certain yet?
Confirmed as being so in post 8:

It's on Freeview HD red button, Freesat and Virgin in 3D.
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Old 10-11-2013, 17:17
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I don't intend to reopen the 3D debate again
So the best way to keep out of a 'debate'(?) you don't want to partake in is to post comments in a thread entitled '3D'? Interesting...

Yes, I knew the 3D trial was coming to an end, but if it had been a success perhaps it wouldn't! Point being, if series 7 had been broadcast in 3D, would it have seen a bigger uptake in 3D? Of course, this is unanswerable and I couldn't give a toss anyway!

So the ponderings of a few posts back remain...I wonder if there will be a spike in the sales of 3D sets in the run up to broadcast?
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Old 10-11-2013, 18:23
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Confirmed as being so in post 8:
Aah, apologies. I saw that, but then I saw lots of other discussion about it not being on Sky. I thought it was contradictory, but then I remembered that Sky ≠ satellite (or in this case, Freesat). Thanks!
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Old 10-11-2013, 19:22
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Some 3D TVs have a 2D to 3D button so one press and any programme is converted to pseudo 3D. My Panny has the feature and depending upon on what you are watching, it can be a reasonable compromise. I have Virgin Media and hope that they will show it in 3D as discussed in other posts.
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Old 20-11-2013, 10:42
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It's on Freeview HD red button, Freesat and Virgin in 3D.
Just 'bumping up' the post.... yep, 3D on the Red button confirmed in the new TV listing mags.

Can't wait.
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Old 20-11-2013, 10:53
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My 3D TV has Freeview HD so I may watch it that way but I'm a little concerned that the red button feed is not going to be pausable. These days I've got used to stopping part way to get a cup of tea, answer the phone or go to the loo. I'm thinking that the pressure of having to watch continuously regardless of interruptions would spoil it a bit (funny how spoiled you get once you've had Sky for a while )

I'll probably watch in HD and then catch the 3D when I get the Blu Ray later.
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Old 20-11-2013, 12:12
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The only way to see it in 3D was to have been there when it was filmed.

But I guess you meant 'how can I get the popular optical illusion effect that makes the 2 Dimensional images on my screen appear to be 3 Dimensional to the human eye'?
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Old 20-11-2013, 12:31
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The BBC have stopped their 3D service because of the new channels like BBC3 HD, BBC4 HD AND BBC NEWS HD etc and have no bandwidth left to broadcast 3D.
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Old 20-11-2013, 12:50
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The BBC have stopped their 3D service because of the new channels like BBC3 HD, BBC4 HD AND BBC NEWS HD etc and have no bandwidth left to broadcast 3D.
In truth, the 3D service was a two-year trial, that trial comes to an end this month and the BBC has decided to put 3D on hold indefinitely due to lack of public appetite for the technology:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23195479.

The space used by the BBC Red Button HD service was originally going to be sold off by the BBC, but no other broadcaster came forward (apart from Channel Five, twice, and twice they pulled out).

The space will now be used for BBC Three HD/CBBC HD
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Old 20-11-2013, 13:22
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The only way to see it in 3D was to have been there when it was filmed.

But I guess you meant 'how can I get the popular optical illusion effect that makes the 2 Dimensional images on my screen appear to be 3 Dimensional to the human eye'?
Actually, if you want to get pedantic about it, the term 3D, according to the online dictionary means:

"A three-dimensional medium, display, or performance, especially a cinematic or graphic medium in three dimensions: They shot the movie in 3-D."

So your implication that the term has been incorrectly applied to a TV programme rather than viewing by the naked eye is, in fact, incorrect.

Viewing things with the naked eye is pretty much never referred to as viewing in 3D
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