I agree.

I am happy to wear a poppy in remembrance of those who died in the last world war protecting our freedoms.
But I don't believe our more recent adventures in Iraq or Afghanistan etc are anything to do with defending my freedoms. In fact I deplore many of our overseas actions and the terrible civilian death toll they inflict. As well as the waste of our own young lives - canon fodder for political power plays. There again they chose to sign up
So is the compromise a white poppy?

Nothing that's fine and I agree with you there. But I wear my poppy with pride as it symbolizes many things to different people and to me I wear it for the men who lost their lives during the world war. I don't agree with some of what goes on these days but I wear my poppy for the men who died fighting for our freedom and the freedom of others.

Also some of these men had no idea they would be posted there and may disagree themselves but have no choice it isn't a normal 9-5 job where they can just quit. I'm sure some joined and didn't care but others where signed up before they were posted there. If anyone is to blame its the government not the soldiers.

The media have warped the whole meaning of wearing a poppy into jingoism and propaganda for illegal wars and foreign excursions where we have no right to be.

The BBC particularly. The BBC is obsessed with the military.

and sit on our fat arses whilst Hitler invades and we come under German rule.

They are for people who want to get noticed and show disrespect. Nothing to do with anything else.

The white poppy doesn't mean anything.

The White Poppy doesn't mean that. Why lie?

Just look at the state of this stuff on BBC1 just now. Current soldiers of course chipping in by VT and propogandising the serving military on their current campaigns. All in the name of a "Festival" of "Remembrance".

Sad.

Because if one war is justified, every single war that this country has ever taken part in is also justified.

Didn't agree with IRAQ, as it was all based on a lie, But in Afghanistan the taliban had killed multiple thousands upon thousands of civilians, before an invasion, and continue to do so. They were also having training camps, and openly training,terrorists, to go and kill as many civilians as they possibly could, and openly threatening and planning attacks on the West. (which includes the UK). Also when I wear a poppy it is to remember the civilians who died in all the conflicts also, as do many others.

Absolute, utter garbage.

Good post


Well it's just not true for starters.

This isn't though some of these men had no idea they would be posted there and may disagree themselves but have no choice it isn't a normal 9-5 job where they can just quit. I'm sure some joined and didn't care but others where signed up before they were posted there. If anyone is to blame its the government not the soldiers.

Get off your soapbox love and just show the respect that is deserved and that went on for decades before you and your self-important opinions were born.

Whoever told this generation that what they have to say is of great importance should be the first against the wall.

Good job people died to stop fascism from being spread to country, eh?

Who the %$&" likes war?

Its a remembrance of people who pitched themselves into a life threatening hell so that people like you would have the freedom to write such unfeeling drivel.

LMAO This is starting to wind me up and I have a feeling it's bugging you too? Ah well ignorance is bliss let them crack on!

Why not just go back to source and see why the Peace Pledge Union produce white poppies? Then realise that people who wear them often have personal thoughts and opinions to add to that general philosophy.

Those who, spurred on by the right-wing media, like to stand on their patriotic soapbox and spout empty quotes like "support our boys" as if it they were being sent to play a football match safe in the knowledge that neither they nor anyone in their family will be expected to fight the war?

Soldiers sign contracts of employment in which they agree to follow orders in exchange for payment. This includes the order to kill people.

It's bad enough to sign up to that when your country is my an aggressive nation which invades and attacks other countries. But those who have signed up after we know what we know about Iraq and Afghanistan? How could anybody respect them?

So, so bitter.

I couldn't agree more. This whole culture of 'our lads in Afghan' makes me so mad. I don't understand why we should be proud that our government is sending our young men to die in what is an illegal, selfish war where they in turn are murdering thousands of innocent men, women and children.

I have immense, deep respect for those who died in conflicts in the past where our way of life is being directly threatened, but it's not, so I don't.

Anyway, back to the white poppy....I'm glad Nicole chose to wear one. I wish the white poppy was accepted just as much as the red.

Although my biggest bugbear is the fact that nobody can go on tv around this time of the year without a poppy because they get torn apart by the press. It should be personal choice. I know if I was a tv presenter and was told I HAD to wear a poppy, I'd go for a white one too.

Yeah, it's interesting she chose to wear it! I didn't notice & so will probably have a peek on catch up. Wonder who researched & suggested it to her, it's not necessarily a widely known alternative.