In respect of natalie. I am not sure, but haven't dancers been eliminated for not being able to compete in a given week, or were the circumstances different?
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It has always been the rule that couples can have a bye if they are unable to dance one week. If they are unable to dance for a second week running, then they are eliminated.
Originally Posted by gemma-the-husky:
“In respect of natalie. I am not sure, but haven't dancers been eliminated for not being able to compete in a given week, or were the circumstances different?”
“In respect of natalie. I am not sure, but haven't dancers been eliminated for not being able to compete in a given week, or were the circumstances different?”
The last one I recall is Tina O'Brien who was ill and given a week's grace - but as I understand it only ONE week's absence is allowed!
Some celebs have chosen to withdraw in circumstances where a bye was not possible or desirable e.g. Jimmy Tarbuck's ill health, Kelly Brook's bereavement, John Sergeant deciding to leave the show.
Other celebs have been told they are fit to dance despite their injury e.g. Laila Rouass, Patrick Robinson.
Three celebs have received a bye in Strictly history - Tina O'Brien, Jade Johnson and Natalie Gumede. Tina returned after a week and stayed until elimination, Jade had to withdraw because she was unable to return after one week, and we don't know if Natalie will be able to come back yet.
Each couple is entitled to one bye throughout the whole series, provided the doctor recommends that the celeb doesn't dance that week. So if they don't return within a week, or they can't dance later in the competition for whatever reason, then they forfeit their place in the show.
Other celebs have been told they are fit to dance despite their injury e.g. Laila Rouass, Patrick Robinson.
Three celebs have received a bye in Strictly history - Tina O'Brien, Jade Johnson and Natalie Gumede. Tina returned after a week and stayed until elimination, Jade had to withdraw because she was unable to return after one week, and we don't know if Natalie will be able to come back yet.
Each couple is entitled to one bye throughout the whole series, provided the doctor recommends that the celeb doesn't dance that week. So if they don't return within a week, or they can't dance later in the competition for whatever reason, then they forfeit their place in the show.
Originally Posted by echad:
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Three celebs have received a bye in Strictly history - Tina O'Brien, Jade Johnson and Natalie Gumede. Tina returned after a week and stayed until elimination, Jade had to withdraw because she was unable to return after one week, and we don't know if Natalie will be able to come back yet.
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Three celebs have received a bye in Strictly history - Tina O'Brien, Jade Johnson and Natalie Gumede. Tina returned after a week and stayed until elimination, Jade had to withdraw because she was unable to return after one week, and we don't know if Natalie will be able to come back yet.
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Oh I am quite sure she will be back. First we have had the "bad back" sympathy vote, now the weekly bye for a "faint". Yes she is a good dancer, but I am losing patience with her melodramas.
Originally Posted by Silver_Starr:
“Oh I am quite sure she will be back. First we have had the "bad back" sympathy vote, now the weekly bye for a "faint". Yes she is a good dancer, but I am losing patience with her melodramas.”
“Oh I am quite sure she will be back. First we have had the "bad back" sympathy vote, now the weekly bye for a "faint". Yes she is a good dancer, but I am losing patience with her melodramas.”
Are you secretly Ian Duncan Smith? You seem to have the same vile attitude to illness and disability.
Originally Posted by cwickham:
“It has always been the rule that couples can have a bye if they are unable to dance one week. If they are unable to dance for a second week running, then they are eliminated.”
“It has always been the rule that couples can have a bye if they are unable to dance one week. If they are unable to dance for a second week running, then they are eliminated.”
Wasn't Jade's injury the first time they made the bye 'official'?
I vaguely remember the announcement making it sound so at the time.
Originally Posted by Silver_Starr:
“Oh I am quite sure she will be back. First we have had the "bad back" sympathy vote, now the weekly bye for a "faint". Yes she is a good dancer, but I am losing patience with her melodramas.”
“Oh I am quite sure she will be back. First we have had the "bad back" sympathy vote, now the weekly bye for a "faint". Yes she is a good dancer, but I am losing patience with her melodramas.”
Are you saying she is faking it I hope not because if you are that is pathetic.
Originally Posted by Monaogg:
“Are you secretly Ian Duncan Smith? You seem to have the same vile attitude to illness and disability.”
“Are you secretly Ian Duncan Smith? You seem to have the same vile attitude to illness and disability.”
Don't be ridiculous. Illness and disability? She is competing in a dance show and if every dancer dropped out of the show because they were 'faint' or aching, Strictly would only last two weeks.
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“Are you saying she is faking it I hope not because if you are that is pathetic.”
“Are you saying she is faking it I hope not because if you are that is pathetic.”
Where did I say that? I just think that she is a little bit... self absorbed. I am sure that many of the contestants are bruised and do compete with ailments but ~ and as I said in the first post ~ she is a good dancer and has been dancing for a long time however she seems to succumb very easily.
Originally Posted by Silver_Starr:
“Don't be ridiculous. Illness and disability? She is competing in a dance show and if every dancer dropped out of the show because they were 'faint' or aching, Strictly would only last two weeks.”
“Don't be ridiculous. Illness and disability? She is competing in a dance show and if every dancer dropped out of the show because they were 'faint' or aching, Strictly would only last two weeks.”
Why have you put faint in inverted commas? Are you claiming that she was faking or have other occasions when dancers have lost consciousness somehow passed me by?
Originally Posted by Silver_Starr:
“Where did I say that? I just think that she is a little bit... self absorbed. I am sure that many of the contestants are bruised and do compete with ailments but ~ and as I said in the first post ~ she is a good dancer and has been dancing for a long time however she seems to succumb very easily.”
“Where did I say that? I just think that she is a little bit... self absorbed. I am sure that many of the contestants are bruised and do compete with ailments but ~ and as I said in the first post ~ she is a good dancer and has been dancing for a long time however she seems to succumb very easily.”
So she faints twice and you think she should Dance and what sign herself out of Hospital if it is true that is where she went.
Originally Posted by Smokeychan1:
“Wasn't Jade's injury the first time they made the bye 'official'?
I vaguely remember the announcement making it sound so at the time.”
“Wasn't Jade's injury the first time they made the bye 'official'?
I vaguely remember the announcement making it sound so at the time.”
Not sure...I can recall Kelly Brook missing a week due to a bereavement(Fathers death)...she returned to resume her training but decided to withdraw...I assume because she had more important things on her mind...like her Mother...Anyway the option to return was there but she didn`t take it up.
Originally Posted by Muggsy:
“Why have you put faint in inverted commas? Are you claiming that she was faking or have other occasions when dancers have lost consciousness somehow passed me by?”
“Why have you put faint in inverted commas? Are you claiming that she was faking or have other occasions when dancers have lost consciousness somehow passed me by?”
Because they showed her hurting her back, they showed her walking away from the practice dance but considering they show everything from every angle, we only saw her on the floor being attended to. No, I am not saying that I want to see her spark out and fall, but Strictly would show it if they had it and considering the number of cameras around, it seems strange that they missed it?
No conspiracies, just a question.
Originally Posted by Smokeychan1:
“Wasn't Jade's injury the first time they made the bye 'official'?
I vaguely remember the announcement making it sound so at the time.”
“Wasn't Jade's injury the first time they made the bye 'official'?
I vaguely remember the announcement making it sound so at the time.”
You could be right. They had all sorts of problems because they kept insisting on the dance off right to the semi finals.
First year was when Kelly Brook withdrew. Then the mess up in the Tom, Rachel, Lisa year where they sent him through because the votes couldn't save him. All because John Sergeant left. Rather than being smart enough to not have an elimination the week John left or giving everyone a free pass the semi final week.
Then with Jade having to withdraw the following year they ended up with the Chris, Ricky final.
It did take 3 years to sort this out and why they now have an extra person in the final or a double elimination in the semis.
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“So she faints twice and you think she should Dance and what sign herself out of Hospital if it is true that is where she went.”
“So she faints twice and you think she should Dance and what sign herself out of Hospital if it is true that is where she went.”
She fainted once didn't she? Not that it is an issue.
And I don't know whether she went to hospital or not. Even Artem didn't seem to sure. I would have thought that she would have just gone home to rest?
I never said that she should have danced. What I said was that she seems a little melodramatic.
Originally Posted by Silver_Starr:
“Where did I say that? I just think that she is a little bit... self absorbed. I am sure that many of the contestants are bruised and do compete with ailments but ~ and as I said in the first post ~ she is a good dancer and has been dancing for a long time however she seems to succumb very easily.”
“Where did I say that? I just think that she is a little bit... self absorbed. I am sure that many of the contestants are bruised and do compete with ailments but ~ and as I said in the first post ~ she is a good dancer and has been dancing for a long time however she seems to succumb very easily.”
Natalie was a dancer in her youth but had to stop due to persistent back problems.This probably makes her the most likely contestant in all the years of Strictly to pull out the show due to a back problem (or related illness). I don't see the need to berate her for that.
The original plan in Series 4 was for Jimmy Tarbuck to take a week off, but then when the doctors said that there was a very possibility his heart might explode, the BBC took one look at their insurance premiums and thought "sod this for a lark" and a 'mutual' desicion was made for him to withdraw.
Originally Posted by Silver_Starr:
“Because they showed her hurting her back, they showed her walking away from the practice dance but considering they show everything from every angle, we only saw her on the floor being attended to. No, I am not saying that I want to see her spark out and fall, but Strictly would show it if they had it and considering the number of cameras around, it seems strange that they missed it?
No conspiracies, just a question.”
“Because they showed her hurting her back, they showed her walking away from the practice dance but considering they show everything from every angle, we only saw her on the floor being attended to. No, I am not saying that I want to see her spark out and fall, but Strictly would show it if they had it and considering the number of cameras around, it seems strange that they missed it?
No conspiracies, just a question.
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Strange thought, but maybe they thought it would be a bit tasteless to show her keeling over sparko?
Do we really need to see it to know it happened?
Originally Posted by Silver_Starr:
“She fainted once didn't she? Not that it is an issue.
And I don't know whether she went to hospital or not. Even Artem didn't seem to sure. I would have thought that she would have just gone home to rest?
I never said that she should have danced. What I said was that she seems a little melodramatic.”
“She fainted once didn't she? Not that it is an issue.
And I don't know whether she went to hospital or not. Even Artem didn't seem to sure. I would have thought that she would have just gone home to rest?
I never said that she should have danced. What I said was that she seems a little melodramatic.”
I don't think she is melodramatic in the least all I know she is the best dancer on the show imo.
Originally Posted by Silver_Starr:
“Don't be ridiculous. Illness and disability? She is competing in a dance show and if every dancer dropped out of the show because they were 'faint' or aching, Strictly would only last two weeks.”
“Don't be ridiculous. Illness and disability? She is competing in a dance show and if every dancer dropped out of the show because they were 'faint' or aching, Strictly would only last two weeks.”
What dreadful people there are , she collapsed and could not stand , so medics were called and gave their professional help & advice , which was taken, she rested ,was given nourishment and when after getting her costume and make up on danced and collapsed again and medics took her to A & E , what is the matter with these spiteful human beings , have they no compassion or do they think the worst of eveyrone .
Originally Posted by davegold:
“Natalie was a dancer in her youth but had to stop due to persistent back problems.This probably makes her the most likely contestant in all the years of Strictly to pull out the show due to a back problem (or related illness). I don't see the need to berate her for that.”
“Natalie was a dancer in her youth but had to stop due to persistent back problems.This probably makes her the most likely contestant in all the years of Strictly to pull out the show due to a back problem (or related illness). I don't see the need to berate her for that.”
No one is berating her for anything. However, knowing the health issues that she had/has it seems very strange that she would sign up to do a show which is full on dancing don't you think? Good luck to her for attempting it but surely when she accepted the offer to be part of the show, she was well aware what she would be signing on for?
Originally Posted by Muggsy:
“Why have you put faint in inverted commas? Are you claiming that she was faking or have other occasions when dancers have lost consciousness somehow passed me by?”
“Why have you put faint in inverted commas? Are you claiming that she was faking or have other occasions when dancers have lost consciousness somehow passed me by?”
Just seen the clip on the BBC website...in all honesty what was shown did`t look like a faint to me...and boy oh boy have I seen a few of them in my time(Dentist)...Having said that I wasn't there so I accept the explanation given.
Proper faint= a grey out and and the patient will only recover if laid flat on their back..normally legs raised as well...Proper faints can be very alarming for onlookers as the eyes can roll and the patient will sometimes shake involuntary...all this and a very pale, almost light grey skin pallor makes it looks like the patient is about to die...not pleasant...A fit young woman like Natalie should recover pretty quickly if laid on her back...a few whiffs of oxygen speeds things up a little
edit...I should have added...recover from the faint..and not necessarily recover to Dance
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“I don't think she is melodramatic in the least all I know she is the best dancer on the show imo.”
“I don't think she is melodramatic in the least all I know she is the best dancer on the show imo.”
She is a good dancer as she has been acknowledged by others (including myself). So what has that to do with melodrama?
Originally Posted by yungathart:
“What dreadful people there are , she collapsed and could not stand , so medics were called and gave their professional help & advice , which was taken, she rested ,was given nourishment and when after getting her costume and make up on danced and collapsed again and medics took her to A & E , what is the matter with these spiteful human beings , have they no compassion or do they think the worst of eveyrone .”
“What dreadful people there are , she collapsed and could not stand , so medics were called and gave their professional help & advice , which was taken, she rested ,was given nourishment and when after getting her costume and make up on danced and collapsed again and medics took her to A & E , what is the matter with these spiteful human beings , have they no compassion or do they think the worst of eveyrone .”
Oh get over yourself. :yawn:
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