Thank you. So glad that it wasn't just me that thought it seemed a little ott.

She didn't miss a week - she did the samba the week he was on his deathbed (and got told off by Len for not trying hard enough), then he died on the Monday, she carried on training for a few days, then decided it was too much and quit.

"Proper faint= a grey out and the patient will only recover if laid flat on their back.. normally legs raised as well..."

I'm sorry but this is not the case. I've had the unfortunate experience of fainting quite a few times and this is not what I have experienced. Fainting can take a number of different "forms" and recovery can be from less than a minute to quite a bit longer. As for "will ONLY recover if laid flat on their back ..." - I'd have caused a sensation in the very small chip shop where I passed out once!

It's a teatime light entertainment show, of course they shouldn't show someone collapsing, what a strange and horrible expectation that they would.

I don't have TV so watch SCD at a friend's house. There were 6 of us there tonight and we all agreed that the footage that was shown of Natalie on the floor was too intrusive for us to feel comfortable viewing it.

I hope Natalie can continue to dance, I'd love to see the Tina Turner 70's jive sometime too

Normal pose is the recovery position and a strong whiff of smelling salts. Brings you round in a tick!

No one ~ including me, who has now been painted as the bad guy for daring to question the sainted Natalie ~ would really want or expect it to be shown but this is Strictly where they air everything no matter how iffy and from every possible vantage point. Therefore it seems slightly at odds at what they actually did show didn't really represent someone in a faint.

Still I am quite sure she will be back next week to dazzle again.

Trust me...a proper vaso-vagal syncope..faint..is blooming alarming if you see one...I`am not saying you..or Natalie for that matter did`t feel faint..but there is a massive difference between feeling faint and being able to lie down yourself and suffering a full on syncope...I`am not even going to bother argueing with you...I have over 28yrs of dealing with patients..some fit, well and healthy..and others taking a cocktail of medications as long as your arm..So I know what I`am talking about...It`s my Job!!

edit..re-recovery...can take a minute or so..but if there is an underlying medical condition then a hospital visit may be required...I`v had to leave some patients supine for upto an hour..basically recovery times do vary.

My experience of is as a lifelong fainter.

It happened pretty regularly when I was at school (which was eons ago when you had assembly every morning and had to stand still for the whole of it). Fortunately I always managed to leave before I lost consciousness all together.

The first time I completely passed out was in a nightclub. I was told I collapsed very elegantly and I certainly got a lot of attention from the bouncers, and the most recent was a couple of years ago standing on a crowded train during rush hour. I can remember feeling absolutely awful and the next thing I knew I was sitting down and the train was pulling into my station. A kindly couple helped me down from the train and I sat on the platform for ages in the middle of winter with my coat off waiting for the awful clammy, sweaty feeling to pass. That time, although I recovered enough to get myself home safely I felt awful for the rest of the evening and the whole of the next day.

I recognise your point about the pallor, which I think may look worse when the fainter is actually starting to recover as I've always found it necessary to 'raise the alarm' and everybody around me seems to be surprised that I'm not OK but then they always get really concerned when I'm starting to feel better.

Lol Good one there!

Nobody knows why Natalie fainted or nearly fainted or fainted twice or whatever it is that happened. It is wrong to make any presumtions about her health until the facts are made public. Even then some may presume there is a cover up!

I wish her a speedy recovery & hope it is nothing serious.

On the fainting debate:

I used to faint every so often when I was younger (due to being anaemic). What happened with me is that my vision would go completely white, I couldn't see a thing, and then I fainted. I always recovered within about 10-20 seconds, and although I was usually on my back on the floor having fainted from a standing position, I did once faint whilst I was sat down in a Maths lesson - vision went white, and I apparently hit my head off of the wall to the right of me. I was taken out of the lesson, and I fainted about 3 more times before I got to the school reception.

By what I've read about what happened with Natalie, she might have had the same thing that I did. I so hope that she's getting better and that she's well enough to dance next week.

Last week the judges asked Artem to push Natalie more. Clearly he pushed her over the edge. It is a shame - I look forward to her & Artem dancing. Thanks for the information that she was training to be a dancer - she has a natural musicality to her movements ... but if true she had to stop because of her back ... well it seems that age isn't going to make it any better. I don't think Natalie is going to last the show.

With regard to Jade Johnson - that knee injury not only put her out of the Strictly Come Dancing show it also ended her athletics career.

Exactly. There have been some unpleasant posts on this thread.

Agree with you. I am not sure why some people wanted to see her faint to believed it actually happened. Seriously? I hope some people are just trolling because it's an awful attitude to have if that's how they really feel about someone in distress. It's a fact that she fainted twice, and needed medical attention, we don't need bad taste slow mo footage of the actual moment.

I hope she makes a speedy recovery. I was looking forward to their Jive so hopefully it's nothing too serious and she will be able to come back and do it later in the show.

Despite his denials he left because had a contract to fulfil giving after dinner speeches on a cruise. Horrible, vain little man with a single, lame Thatcher experience that he repeats ad nauseum!

Yes that was not Len's finest hour. He at least had the grace to apologise in his biography.

Don't know where this strange implication comes from that Natalie 'fainted' to make sure she gets through to Blackpool or to garner sympathy. The chances of her NOT getting through were incredibly slim. Can't see any situation where the judges wouldn't vote her through even if she did end up in the dance off.

She was obviously unwell enough for the on site medic to send her off to hospital after the dress rehearsal.

i completely agree, i really don't think it was necessary or warranted. i am sure the viewers know someone doesn't get excused for no reason, we don't need to see them in distress.

Get over yourself, Natalie is not well and didn't dance

Just because she is obviously not your favourite doesn't mean she can't be treated with some decency.

I didn't see last nights show...was the faint anything like the fake doctor woman on I'm A Celeb... Who managed to pull her shirt down to cover her flesh before she hit the deck?

I'm not a medical person but I am a bit mystified by the dentist's assertion that a "proper" faint is as he/she described. I have only fainted a couple of times but as far as I remember I crumpled to the floor, and came round a few seconds later. I remember a rushing noise in my ears and my head feeling very cold and then nothing. Why is that not a proper faint? I didn't fake it but I was definitely out cold albeit for a short time.

She fainted twice and went to A&E. I find your post about her very sad and I will leave it at that.

I do worry about the long term damage she could be doing to her back.
By drugging herself up so much to be able to continue to dance she risks not being aware of more damage being done.

I do the the footage they showed of her last night was very intrusive & needless.

Whatever the rules, I just hope she will be back next week.

There have been some extremely unpleasant posts on here and mainly fom one poster who, interestingly, is a new poster. Probably best not to respond.