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Old 10-11-2013, 00:09
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I don't get the judges logic. Nicholas stands there every week and sings the songs in Karaoke fashion.

Abi gets called boring and uncharismatic and she actually bothers to change the arrangement and plays Piano and Guitar aswell as being a songwriter.

I don't get it. even the Celebrity Panel was tipping her for bottom 2! Why does she deserve bottom 2 when she's the only original artist in the show?

I think it's favouritism.
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Old 10-11-2013, 00:13
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Exactly it makes absolutely no sense. Abi was beautiful and brilliant tonight! She showed she was versatile but she is clearly being lined up for the chop Janet D style.

Nick is incredibly dull and ordinary yet the show loves him...something is really confusing me about that? The performance tonight was also really awkward compared to Abi's yet he got all sorts of nice comments but Abi got a bit of an unwarranted comment. Her voice was heard over the Big Band Louis!
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Old 10-11-2013, 00:15
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Shame people are only just catching onto this in her last week in the competition.
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Old 10-11-2013, 00:16
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The band were louder than her in the second half of her song - that's Nicole's fault - she was drowned out.
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Old 10-11-2013, 00:16
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Totally agree. Abi is creative and emotive when she sings.

Nicholas is just dull and dated.
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Old 10-11-2013, 00:17
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Abi boring, Nicholas extremely dull
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Old 10-11-2013, 00:17
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You can feel the seethe.
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Old 10-11-2013, 00:18
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Shame people are only just catching onto this in her last week in the competition.
Lets not give up yet, if enough people vote she might scrape through.
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Old 10-11-2013, 00:20
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Abi's originality isn't really in question - it's her quality.

She was drowned out by the band and shown up by her backing singers.
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Old 10-11-2013, 00:24
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Exactly it makes absolutely no sense. Abi was beautiful and brilliant tonight! She showed she was versatile but she is clearly being lined up for the chop Janet D style.

Nick is incredibly dull and ordinary yet the show loves him...something is really confusing me about that? The performance tonight was also really awkward compared to Abi's yet he got all sorts of nice comments but Abi got a bit of an unwarranted comment. Her voice was heard over the Big Band Louis!
Agree with every word, although maybe the sound experience was different in the studio when Abi sang.
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Old 10-11-2013, 00:28
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to me they're both utter snoozefests, though nicholas has a much better voice and a nicer tone.
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Old 10-11-2013, 00:30
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There both shite
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Old 10-11-2013, 00:32
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Nicholas has a beautiful and expressive voice, but is being given dull songs.

Abi has a thin, reed-like voice, which only really works imo when she's doing the delicate flower thing behind a single piano or guitar. She also, quite often, sings out of tune. Having said that, I thought this week was her best performance so far. I think there's at least three candidates more likely to be in the bottom two this week.
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Old 10-11-2013, 00:35
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I agree 100%. Abi isn't my favourite in the show but I admire the fact that she is an artist and shows her creativity every week - whilst Nicholas stands there and sings by numbers. They're both ballad singers but i'd take Abi any day of the week as she's more interesting and shows a level of musicianship.
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Old 10-11-2013, 00:37
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I agree 100%. Abi isn't my favourite in the show but I admire the fact that she is an artist and shows her creativity every week - whilst Nicholas stands there and sings by numbers. They're both ballad singers but i'd take Abi any day of the week as she's more interesting and shows a level of musicianship.
By singing flat?
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Old 10-11-2013, 00:53
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Abi is not original or very talented. She sings in the same weak, whispery tone every performance. She cannot sustain notes longer than 2 seconds before it trails or she goes off key. Her performance tonight was static and devoid of any energy. That's Life is supposed to be a rousing, cheeky anthem about a guy getting back on his feet after being down and out. She sang it with a vacant expression on her face.

Nicholas is an excellent singer actually. Don't hate on him because he's a producer/crowd favourite. His technical skills are among the best of all the contestants AND he actually gets the songs that he is singing about. Dream A Little Dream is almost a lullaby, the melody is very important and he made some really beautiful, clever changes here and there that were distinctive and appropriate to the song.

People bang on about Abi's 'musicianship' and 'artistry' but actually Nicholas has shown more creativity in the smooth melodic changes he's made to his songs every week. I'm surprised that so many of the forumers on here who claim to be interested in 'uniqueness' and 'making a song their own' haven't noticed this. Probably not as good at listening for the finer aspects of music as they think they are
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:04
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Abi is not original or very talented. She sings in the same weak, whispery tone every performance. She cannot sustain notes longer than 2 seconds before it trails or she goes off key. Her performance tonight was static and devoid of any energy. That's Life is supposed to be a rousing, cheeky anthem about a guy getting back on his feet after being down and out. She sang it with a vacant expression on her face.

Nicholas is an excellent singer actually. Don't hate on him because he's a producer/crowd favourite. His technical skills are among the best of all the contestants AND he actually gets the songs that he is singing about. Dream A Little Dream is almost a lullaby, the melody is very important and he made some really beautiful, clever changes here and there that were distinctive and appropriate to the song.

People bang on about Abi's 'musicianship' and 'artistry' but actually Nicholas has shown more creativity in the smooth melodic changes he's made to his songs every week. I'm surprised that so many of the forumers on here who claim to be interested in 'uniqueness' and 'making a song their own' haven't noticed this. Probably not as good at listening for the finer aspects of music as they think they are
This. So much this.

I get the feeling sometimes that you show someone plonking on a piano or twanging a guitar some people seem to think 'oh, they're a *real* musician.

Well I'm a musician, I play piano, saxophone, clarinet and drums. I also write my own stuff. But I can't sing for shit.
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:04
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Nicholas isn't excellent by any means. He is dull and has no mind for the music business beyond "Sing this song".

The X Factor is supposed to be about selling records and finding the next big star. Nicholas is just like Joe McElderry and Leon Jackson so why they would want another winner like them, I have no idea.

Abi could make a good album. She can write and arrange the songs and I imagine she will sound even better in the studio. Sam Callahan will make the most money, he will win the competition IMO. He has got the look and charisma about him and he attracts to girls just like Olly and 1D. He doesn't need to sing Whitney Houston, he can get by on making some catchy pop songs.

Abi and Sam Callahan have the most potential for me.
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:07
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Abi is not original or very talented. She sings in the same weak, whispery tone every performance. She cannot sustain notes longer than 2 seconds before it trails or she goes off key. Her performance tonight was static and devoid of any energy. That's Life is supposed to be a rousing, cheeky anthem about a guy getting back on his feet after being down and out. She sang it with a vacant expression on her face.

Nicholas is an excellent singer actually. Don't hate on him because he's a producer/crowd favourite. His technical skills are among the best of all the contestants AND he actually gets the songs that he is singing about. Dream A Little Dream is almost a lullaby, the melody is very important and he made some really beautiful, clever changes here and there that were distinctive and appropriate to the song.

People bang on about Abi's 'musicianship' and 'artistry' but actually Nicholas has shown more creativity in the smooth melodic changes he's made to his songs every week. I'm surprised that so many of the forumers on here who claim to be interested in 'uniqueness' and 'making a song their own' haven't noticed this. Probably not as good at listening for the finer aspects of music as they think they are
You realize that's not due to him but rather the arrangement he was given?
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:07
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This. So much this.

I get the feeling sometimes that you show someone plonking on a piano or twanging a guitar some people seem to think 'oh, they're a *real* musician.

Well I'm a musician, I play piano, saxophone, clarinet and drums. I also write my own stuff. But I can't sing for shit.
The difference is, Abi can sing.

Just because she doesn't sing predictable power ballads, doesn't mean she can't sing. There's more to music than singing Celine Dion and Whitney Houston.
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:10
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Abi is not original or very talented. She sings in the same weak, whispery tone every performance. She cannot sustain notes longer than 2 seconds before it trails or she goes off key. Her performance tonight was static and devoid of any energy. That's Life is supposed to be a rousing, cheeky anthem about a guy getting back on his feet after being down and out. She sang it with a vacant expression on her face.

Nicholas is an excellent singer actually. Don't hate on him because he's a producer/crowd favourite. His technical skills are among the best of all the contestants AND he actually gets the songs that he is singing about. Dream A Little Dream is almost a lullaby, the melody is very important and he made some really beautiful, clever changes here and there that were distinctive and appropriate to the song.

People bang on about Abi's 'musicianship' and 'artistry' but actually Nicholas has shown more creativity in the smooth melodic changes he's made to his songs every week. I'm surprised that so many of the forumers on here who claim to be interested in 'uniqueness' and 'making a song their own' haven't noticed this. Probably not as good at listening for the finer aspects of music as they think they are
Interesting post High. And very good points. Not a Nicholas fan as he seems rather bland for me, but his technical performance is ignored as it easier to slag off the main opposition to the posters favourites. Note how often a particular Tamera fan keeps attacking Nicholas and trying to do him down. Wonder why?
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:11
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You realize that's not due to him but rather the arrangement he was given?
He's turning in better crafted performances than Abi, the supposed 'musician' every single week. What does that say about her?

The difference is, Abi can sing.

Just because she doesn't sing predictable power ballads, doesn't mean she can't sing. There's more to music than singing Celine Dion and Whitney Houston.
Abi is a poor singer. She does not have any refine or skill. No one said anything about Celine or Whitney. That doesn't excuse Abi from singing in tune, because she wears 'kooky' glasses or can play a few chords on a guitar.
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:12
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Nicholas has a beautiful and expressive voice, but is being given dull songs.

Abi has a thin, reed-like voice, which only really works imo when she's doing the delicate flower thing behind a single piano or guitar. She also, quite often, sings out of tune. Having said that, I thought this week was her best performance so far. I think there's at least three candidates more likely to be in the bottom two this week.
I agree with you. Despite questionable song choices, Nicholas is by far the best singer. He was pitch perfect tonight, despite being only 16 (just incase you missed that fact).
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:13
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The difference is, Abi can sing.

Just because she doesn't sing predictable power ballads, doesn't mean she can't sing. There's more to music than singing Celine Dion and Whitney Houston.
No. She can't sing. Really. She probably had her best performance tonight and it was still poor. As to the last few performances, can you really say they were good? If you need any reminders - just go and listen back to Moon River and then try and tell me she can sing.
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:14
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They are both boring but I can appreciate that Nicholas can really sing where as Abi is just terrible .
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