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Facebook likes indicate Luke, Tamera and Sam C in trouble.
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Jazziii
10-11-2013
Originally Posted by Fizix:
“I'm going to throw another league into the mix, sorry

My company built a social analytics, deep listening, influencer identification and influencer campaign platform for a client earlier in the year. It's solid and has a slightly unique thing about it.

It listens in across social media outlets (FB, Twitter, Google/YouTube, Instagram and Vimeo (irrelevant to the contestants)).

It checks the top level stuff such as profile "audience" (FB Page likes, followers), "interaction" (retweets, comments, tweets, content likes) and also runs a deep listening mechanism that looks for public discussion such as mentions, hashtags etc.

It also looks at audience patterns and gives weight via a gamification engine to engagement patterns that indicate an invested audience and provides a "popularity" score. That's not dissimular to the idea behind the Klout score (if anyones heard of that)... but for "popularity".


I decided to plug the contestants in just before JH to see if there is (or is not) a correlation between social media popularity and the result.

It managed to predict Hannah/Miss Dynamix and Tamera/KR in the bottom two. Wk1 and 2 I guess it got but that's hardly worth considering as there was a lower block that were all drifting around together.


Last night (Saturday) it had (lowest to highest):
Hannah
Abi
Tamera
luke
rough copy
Sam B
Sam C
Nic (way out ahead)


Today (Sunday, 11:21am) it has (lowest to highest):
Score is a normalised popularity score, similar in concept to the Klout score. The order is the same but the scores have tightened into three blocks plus Nicholas who is basically in his own little league and is almost as popular as erm... some smaller national brands, but not Mashable/Forbes/TechCrunch popularity. None of them are really brand popular.



Hannah: 751
Abi: 912
Tamera: 15,327
Luke Friend: 29,959
Rough Copy: 32,479
Sam B: 101,838
Sam C: 103,560
Nicholas: 213,456


Note (Sam C): His audience to engagement ratio is poor so his score could be grossly misleading. In other words, his metrics show that he has a smaller core audience (who are significant, but nowhere near as big as his overall score would indicate) who interact rampantly, the bulk of interaction being sharing rather than discussion. others such as Sam B, Luke and Abi provoke discussion which is more valuable.


Another is RC, they have the same pattern going on.


Tamera may be subject to massive multi-voting due to her B2 last weekend so her score may not represent her and could if it correlates again pull RC or Luke into the bottom 3 area.

Luke and Abi have a slightly unique engagement trend, most of them boost through Sat and Sun (till the afternoon) and then calm, they tend to get a kick in across the afternoon.

If Abi and Luke do that again, they could fly up the league. Abi for example was near the bottom on Sunday morning but was 4th from top come the result show. Tamera hovered at 15k and didn't pick up till 6/7pm and reached 32k

Last weekend they reached (approx):
Nic 280k
Sam C 220k
Sam B 250k
Abi 90k
Luke: 80k
RC: 70k
Hannah: 40k
KR: 35k
Tamera: 35k


Make of that what you will, I'll make my prediction later, hopefully I can get a hat-trick but I'm not as confident as there are a few unknown quantities this week (i.e. Tameras rebound vote, RC and Sam C's ratios).

Also you can't guarantee that social popularity will translate into votes.”

Nicholas more popular among teenage girls then, then Sam C by looks of things
Roland Mouse
10-11-2013
Originally Posted by Nastyman69:
“He is actually quite mediocre. I've heard many male singers at his age who were much better than him during your 30 years in the recording industry”

I stated "The best singer by far LAST BIGHT" and you ignore that and compare it with something else as in all the singers you have ever heard over the last 30 years.

And somehow you think that addresses and counters my post in some way.



Try harder!
WhyHelloWorld
10-11-2013
Originally Posted by Roland Mouse:
“I stated "The best singer by far LAST BIGHT" and you ignore that and compare it with something else as in all the singers you have ever heard over the last 30 years.

And somehow you think that addresses and counters my post in some way.



Try harder!”

He was definitely not the best singer last night - coming from a Nicholas fan (a scottish, nicholas fan). Everyone up here is raving for him to win, but let's be realistic now. He was definitely not the best last night. Sam B was in a completely different league to anyone last night.
Pinkminxy
10-11-2013
I want Sam C to stay just to rub it in Gary's ace. Think he's been unnecessarily rude towards him each week. Ideally Abi will be out tonight.
fireemblemcraze
10-11-2013
Originally Posted by Nastyman69:
“I have this gut feeling Tamera might be in the B2 again”

Rebound vote of a favorite never fails.
WhyHelloWorld
10-11-2013
Originally Posted by fireemblemcraze:
“Rebound vote of a favorite never fails.”

You could question her being a 'favourite' after being in the bottom 2. And actually, it does. Rachel A was a favourite going into the live shows, no rebound until week 3. Even Cher Lloyd, Misha B, Kitty etc didn't get a rebound vote all the time.
earldbest
10-11-2013
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“You could question her being a 'favourite' after being in the bottom 2. And actually, it does. Rachel A was a favourite going into the live shows, no rebound until week 3. Even Cher Lloyd, Misha B, Kitty etc didn't get a rebound vote all the time.”

iirc Rachel Adedeji was given as much exposure pre-lives as Lorna is this year.
fireemblemcraze
10-11-2013
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“You could question her being a 'favourite' after being in the bottom 2. And actually, it does. Rachel A was a favourite going into the live shows, no rebound until week 3. Even Cher Lloyd, Misha B, Kitty etc didn't get a rebound vote all the time.”

Rachel A was a favorite? On what planet - over Lucie, Stacey, Danyl and Olly? She got hardly any screen time pre-lives which is one of the reasons (like Lorna) why it wasn't that hard to predict she would B2 (hardly any support built up for her).

Cher got her rebound vote, Misha B did as well (B2 followed by 3rd followed by B2 again followed by 2nd followed by B2 again). Kitty was never a favorite and in fact was the hate figure like Katie.
WhyHelloWorld
10-11-2013
Originally Posted by earldbest:
“iirc Rachel Adedeji was given as much exposure pre-lives as Lorna is this year.”

I agree. Yet she was 4th favourite after her first performance - behind Joe, Lucie and Danyl. Although, Stacey was shortening to win LOADS at this point.
WhyHelloWorld
10-11-2013
Originally Posted by fireemblemcraze:
“Rachel A was a favorite? On what planet - over Lucie, Stacey, Danyl and Olly? She got hardly any screen time pre-lives which is one of the reasons (like Lorna) why it wasn't that hard to predict she would B2 (hardly any support built up for her).

Cher got her rebound vote, Misha B did as well (B2 followed by 3rd followed by B2 again followed by 2nd followed by B2 again). Kitty was never a favorite and in fact was the hate figure like Katie.”

Rachel A was 4th favourite behind Danyl, Lucie and Joe on the first live shows. In that order. Danyl, Lucie, Joe and Rachel. My father placed a bet on her to win ( ).
Roland Mouse
10-11-2013
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“He was definitely not the best singer last night - coming from a Nicholas fan (a scottish, nicholas fan). Everyone up here is raving for him to win, but let's be realistic now. He was definitely not the best last night. Sam B was in a completely different league to anyone last night.”

Sam B was shouty and not her best and sung a karaoke classic.

How that can be seen as good I don't know. I am losing faith with the National Health Service Hearing Tests. Or is it just people who think that loud equals good and soft equals bad.
Roland Mouse
10-11-2013
Originally Posted by Nastyman69:
“I have this gut feeling Tamera might be in the B2 again”

Oh I seriously hope not!

I would be in great pain on the floor and unable to post for hours!
WhyHelloWorld
10-11-2013
Originally Posted by Roland Mouse:
“Sam B was shouty and not her best and sung a karaoke classic.

How that can be seen as good I don't know. I am losing faith with the National Health Service Hearing Tests. Or is it just people who think that loud equals good and soft equals bad. ”

If you have been in the music industry 30 years and think Nicholas was the best last night, maybe that's why the music industry is the way it is now?

You said yourself Sam B was good in another post - need me to quote for you? - so it's quite clearly not a case of loud equals good because, of course, you have been in the music industry 30 years and know talent....unless?
4troy7
10-11-2013
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“You could question her being a 'favourite' after being in the bottom 2. And actually, it does. Rachel A was a favourite going into the live shows, no rebound until week 3. Even Cher Lloyd, Misha B, Kitty etc didn't get a rebound vote all the time.”

LOL in what world was Rachel A ever a favourite ?????
WhyHelloWorld
10-11-2013
Originally Posted by 4troy7:
“LOL in what world was Rachel A ever a favourite ?????”

She was 4th favourite on the first live show. Then it fumbled right down for two week and she went out too (IIRC) about 300/1 to win. She was a HUGE favourite to LEAVE on the 3rd week - again my father put a bet on her to leave in week 3 (quite a lot too - and she didn't.

Sorry, I know this cause I am still bitter about that money being lost. My whole family we so sure she was gone week 3. Not as sure as my dad when he thought she would win though.
Maxine_Roch
10-11-2013
Originally Posted by fireemblemcraze:
“Rachel A was a favorite? On what planet - over Lucie, Stacey, Danyl and Olly? She got hardly any screen time pre-lives which is one of the reasons (like Lorna) why it wasn't that hard to predict she would B2 (hardly any support built up for her).

Cher got her rebound vote, Misha B did as well (B2 followed by 3rd followed by B2 again followed by 2nd followed by B2 again). Kitty was never a favorite and in fact was the hate figure like Katie.”

On what planet was Rachel ever a favourite ?
Lucylocket88
10-11-2013
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“She was 4th favourite on the first live show. Then it fumbled right down for two week and she went out too (IIRC) about 300/1 to win. She was a HUGE favourite to LEAVE on the 3rd week - again my father put a bet on her to leave in week 3 (quite a lot too - and she didn't.

Sorry, I know this cause I am still bitter about that money being lost. My whole family we so sure she was gone week 3. Not as sure as my dad when he thought she would win though.”

Which proves, the bookies odds, are not always right when it comes to predicting the next elimination. The bookies odds do tend to get it right, with the betting on the winners, but regarding to elimination, the elimination odds are not always right.
fireemblemcraze
10-11-2013
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“She was 4th favourite on the first live show. Then it fumbled right down for two week and she went out too (IIRC) about 300/1 to win. She was a HUGE favourite to LEAVE on the 3rd week - again my father put a bet on her to leave in week 3 (quite a lot too - and she didn't.

Sorry, I know this cause I am still bitter about that money being lost. My whole family we so sure she was gone week 3. Not as sure as my dad when he thought she would win though.”

Well that's different to being the 1st to 3rd favorite pre-lives and then the 1st favorite throughout the entire process from JH and lives!! Which Tamera has been!! Rachel's small rise to 4th favorite on one live show really isn't the same thing (I did like her though).
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