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Old 10-11-2013, 06:00
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Remember the last commercially problematic act they gave gave repeated standing ovations to? Joe McElderry.
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:38
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She should be in with a good chance of winning, but she is unlikely to get the teen vote which as usual will probably go to Nicholas. Shame really.
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:45
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A couple of weeks ago I asked who people were voting for and what age category they were.

A great majority voting for Sam B were in their teens & 20's which I found very heartening
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:34
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She should be in with a good chance of winning, but she is unlikely to get the teen vote which as usual will probably go to Nicholas. Shame really.
The teen vote seems to be split among the three boys and KR. With KR lasting a month and the other two still standing, Nicholas's supply of hormonal teens is probably not as much as that of Eoghan 5 years ago, as fans of Sam C and Luke (assuming they will exit before the final, which will probably be the case) will probably gravitate to their respective second faves (which differ), if they even continue voting, rather than automatically to Nicky, which would happen if the other Boys were axed really early.
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:47
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A couple of weeks ago I asked who people were voting for and what age category they were.

A great majority voting for Sam B were in their teens & 20's which I found very heartening
Hope you are right, as its not normally the case with this show.
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:51
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A couple of weeks ago I asked who people were voting for and what age category they were.

A great majority voting for Sam B were in their teens & 20's which I found very heartening
That's good. The Overs category has been in need of redemption since Steve's fallout, and Sam B's warm presence is the genuine feel good story missing from the last few years.
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Old 10-11-2013, 09:02
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She should be in with a good chance of winning, but she is unlikely to get the teen vote which as usual will probably go to Nicholas. Shame really.
No way are teens voting for Nicholas. It's mums and grannies.
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Old 10-11-2013, 09:06
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Sam B is Shamazing, imo, she is the best over 25 ever, I actually really want her to win, and if she makes the final 3, I will be voting for her.
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Old 10-11-2013, 11:14
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I can't see her releasing music tbh...She seems more like a pub singer
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Old 10-11-2013, 11:19
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I can't see her releasing music tbh...She seems more like a pub singer

Well I can see her releasing music. Winner's single and debut album, either and album of covers or new, middle-of-the-road adult contemporary songs.

She won't get radioplay, people will be already over her by the time the album drops. So the album will flop and Simon will drop her like a hot potato and poor woman will be ridiculed just like every other X Factor winner that flopped with his debut album.

So, to conclude ... I can see her releasing music, but not selling it.
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Old 10-11-2013, 11:33
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Watch the effortless Celine Dion this evening and then watch the effort and huff and puffing from Bailey to see the difference
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Old 10-11-2013, 11:35
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A couple of weeks ago I asked who people were voting for and what age category they were.

A great majority voting for Sam B were in their teens & 20's which I found very heartening
Sorry but that is hard to believe to be honest.
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:45
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I think she might win - she does have a huge following but I can't see her having commercial success if I'm honest with you but I might be wrong. If XF came out in the 80s, she would have been pretty big in that particular decade - that I would have been confident in saying
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:51
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No way are teens voting for Nicholas. It's mums and grannies.
Nicholas has a lot of teen girls cooing over him on twitter.

'OMG Nicholas McDonald is sooo perfect I love him' etc...

Besides, I'm voting for him and I don't fit into any of those categories.
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Old 10-11-2013, 13:01
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I'm not sure Joe McElderry was SEEN as "commercially problematic". Didn't Simon repeatedly say he was a popstar.
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Old 10-11-2013, 13:29
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I'm not sure Joe McElderry was SEEN as "commercially problematic". Didn't Simon repeatedly say he was a popstar.
Really? I only remember Lou-Lou's "UK Michael Buble"
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Old 10-11-2013, 13:32
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Does anyone watch Gogglebox ? If the viewers on that are representitve of the national audience, she has won it already. I think she has appeal across the majority of age groups, apart from the the teeny girl vote.. will that prevent her from winning ? I don't know.
She is still 6/4 favourite with the bookies, so that's where most of the money is going.
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Old 10-11-2013, 13:47
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I think she will win easily but it makes me sad to say I'm finding her boring now, but that's just me & it doesn't make me happy to say it. I look forward to most of the others because they're unpredictable, apart from Hannah & Tamera. Hannah hurts my ears & Tamera is predictable.
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Old 10-11-2013, 13:49
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Watch the effortless Celine Dion this evening and then watch the effort and huff and puffing from Bailey to see the difference
The effortless Celine who didn't sing on Jonathan Ross because she's saving her voice for tonight?
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Old 10-11-2013, 14:02
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The effortless Celine who didn't sing on Jonathan Ross because she's saving her voice for tonight?
Isn't her performance pre-recorded?
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Old 11-11-2013, 00:49
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Hope you are right, as its not normally the case with this show.
True, but I think the older contestants haven't usually been the best on the show, which Sam B definitely is this year.
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Old 11-11-2013, 00:53
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Watch the effortless Celine Dion this evening and then watch the effort and huff and puffing from Bailey to see the difference
Well, one's had a career for decades, one has had 5 weeks on the X Factor. She's not going to be perfect.
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Old 11-11-2013, 00:58
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I think Sam has a good shot at winning this year. A lot of people I've spoken to about x factor are rooting for her and she has been consistently very good. She has to keep the momentum up and possibly pull off a performance which shocks and amazes people the way Little Mix did with ET and Alexandra with Listen.
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Old 11-11-2013, 01:10
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I think she will win easily but it makes me sad to say I'm finding her boring now, but that's just me & it doesn't make me happy to say it. I look forward to most of the others because they're unpredictable, apart from Hannah & Tamera. Hannah hurts my ears & Tamera is predictable.
Must say I agree. She seems to be singing at full pelt all the time and I'd prefer her to cut back on the showboating and introduced some dynamics into her performances.
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Old 11-11-2013, 02:24
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I'm in the low 20's and Sam Bailey is my favorite now.

I never listen to that type of music and would never buy her album.

But she is a better vocalist and performer than the supposed ones with "star quality" like Tamera.

I'm sure if you gave her a Rihanna song, she's still work it out better than Tamera and co.
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