If Nat goes and I very much hope she is ok and stays then the above two are both great bets at 4-1. If you put £10 on both of them you could double your money if either of them wins.

If Nat has to pull out the odds will Dive for both Abbey and Sophie.

What are the odds for Patrick?

Yeah if you back both of them you'd be very unlucky to lose.

I put money on Sophie when she was 10/1

Who's riding them, and how many fences?

There is still Ashley though (and we don't know how big the housewives vote for Ben is and if it will fade).

Based on statistics, I would rule out Patrick and Susanna (as winners).

personally think susannah is a shoe in

Do you honestly believe Natalie has a chance of winning, bearing in mind it is a public vote and although she is a wonderful dancer, it's because she's had extensive training and personally I don't know a single person who doesn't feel she is a ringer and therefore won't be voting for her?

I'd say bet on Sophie and Abbey anyway!

Susanna and Patrick are both a little outside the age profile (no male winner over 40, no female winner over 32) but I would say Susanna definitely has far more chance of winning than Abbey does. I say it's between her and Sophie at this point.

I would say Susanna or Ashley because one of them will be the winner

22-1 are the best.

Nat is still firm fav although are odds are slipping because she may pull out. All the people I know think she is great.

Thanks for the info MAC.

No worries.

Everyone I know thinks she is fabulous and couldn't care less about her background.

What about Ben. Surely John Dickowman couldn't be wrong

Yeah Susanna is my tip too if Sophie doesn't improve soon.
Natalie won't win imo if she stays in, she is in the same ringer category as Emma Bunton and DVO.

Thought her AT was miles better then her Jive, but people seem to have pushed her into a corner (mannequin, dummy, soulless, robot, zombie, inhuman, alien etc.) and I don't think those people will change their mind this series (didn't happen for Rachel Stevens either).

She won't win, unlike the great personalities that were Harry Judd and Louis Smith.

Agree with all of this .
Natalie is going to finish like DVO 3rd I believe.
Suzanna has more of a chance than Abbey, well at the moment.

Right now I think Susanna will win. Sophie could, if she improves.

I don't think Abbey or Natalie will win.

All those names
I still think she has a chance though.

I would bet on Sophie or suzanna for the women .
Abbey has a chance of finishing 2nd or 3rd if in the next few weeks she produces an outstanding routine or performance; she can do it but she won't win.

I bet Abbey at 12-1 and would be very confident right now if she hasn't been in last weeks bottom two. That said, Sophie seems to be going backwards and regardless if whether she pulls out or not, I think Natalie will struggle to win because she's perceived as having an unfair advantage as a trained dancer.

Abbey is likeable, humble and improving by the week. She has the profile of a winner.

I agree but does she have the votes ? Not too sure. Anything can still happen but as much I like her, I don't see winning . I prefer to stay realistic . 3rd place would be good enough for me

Really? Well let's hope she doesn't have to pull out, because if she does we'll never know if people were actually voting for her or not.

And based on last year, the background did seem to impact on DVO's votes or lack thereof. Of course with DVO she was more of a marmite character than Natalie is this year.

We'll see!