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Old 10-11-2013, 18:34
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'She' ends the Time War, as Bad Wolf.

See the rose-shaped jewel in the trailer? It even has gold type thorns around it's base.

'The Moment is coming' she says.

Bad Wolf Rose transposes all her energy into the jewel/plunger and all three doctors press it, locking/ending the Time War.

What do I win?
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Old 10-11-2013, 18:38
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I think that the BIG RED BUTTON OF DOOM just sends the three Doctors into the Time War. Otherwise the behind the scenes pics would spoil the climax of the episode.
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Old 10-11-2013, 18:46
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Nothing as I said the same thing some days ago.


I wasn't being entirely serious at the time though.
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Old 10-11-2013, 19:32
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I thought the John Hurt character is/was "the Moment"......failing that......summat to do with Martine McCutcheon?
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Old 10-11-2013, 19:35
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Rose is definitely the moment for me, but I worry about the kerb stones
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Old 10-11-2013, 19:40
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Rose is definitely the moment for me, but I worry about the kerb stones
Are you referring to her to Billie Piper's teeth?
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Old 11-11-2013, 01:52
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Is this Moment stuff purely stemed from the trailer or have we heard it before?
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Old 11-11-2013, 02:07
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Is this Moment stuff purely stemed from the trailer or have we heard it before?
The End of Time.


RASSILON: What news of the Doctor?
CHANCELLOR: Disappeared, my Lord President.
PARTISAN: (a woman) But we know his intention. He still possesses the Moment, and he'll use it to destroy Daleks and Time Lords alike.

It's also been mentioned a few times in the Comics.


http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Moment
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Old 11-11-2013, 02:36
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So the stuff at the heart of the 50th anniversary comes from RTDs era?

Seems odd; Time War, Time Lords locked away, Bad Wolf, Rose, The Moment etc.
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Old 11-11-2013, 05:03
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So the stuff at the heart of the 50th anniversary comes from RTDs era?

Seems odd; Time War, Time Lords locked away, Bad Wolf, Rose, The Moment etc.
We've only seen one seventy fifth of the show; and the trailer is likely edited in a misleading way- I doubt the 'come to the right place' line is actually a reaction to the Hurt Doctor, as suggested in the ad.

I would be amazed if River Song's not in it. Would guess Amy & Rory too.
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Old 11-11-2013, 05:07
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We've only seen one seventy fifth of the show.

I would be amazed if River Song's not in it. Would guess Amy & Rory too.
I meant the main story threads come from RTDs backstory he created to link the old series with the new one.
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Old 11-11-2013, 11:49
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I meant the main story threads come from RTDs backstory he created to link the old series with the new one.
Well if Moffat's original idea was to introduce an unseen incarnation of the Doctor then the only place in the Doctor's life this could really be is between 8 and 9.

Given that the big unseen Event of the Time War also happened in this period it would seem logical to include that in the story as well.


Of course there is probably more to the Story than just the Time War.
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Old 11-11-2013, 18:54
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Well if Moffat's original idea was to introduce an unseen incarnation of the Doctor then the only place in the Doctor's life this could really be is between 8 and 9.
I saw it as more that he decided to include the Time War in some way and it was from that he decided he could do some random other doctor because we didn't see the 8 to 9 regeneration.

Of course there is probably more to the Story than just the Time War.
Very true. Nothing's ever as it seems.
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Old 11-11-2013, 19:25
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I don't think RTD actually gave that much thought to the Time War.

It was a device for parking the 8th doc without things getting messy, and a way to exclude the Time Lords, who he said were boring and essentially a hang-over from the studio bound stories.

He wanted 2005 to be more upbeat, in a way that better suited the landscape of TV at the time.

I'm pretty glad that they turned up again later,and Timothy Dalton became the Credentials of Rasillon..
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Old 11-11-2013, 20:01
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I don't think RTD actually gave that much thought to the Time War.

It was a device for parking the 8th doc without things getting messy, and a way to exclude the Time Lords, who he said were boring and essentially a hang-over from the studio bound stories.

He wanted 2005 to be more upbeat, in a way that better suited the landscape of TV at the time.

I'm pretty glad that they turned up again later,and Timothy Dalton became the Credentials of Rasillon..
Would you bring them back Grisonaut if you were showrunner?
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Old 11-11-2013, 20:54
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I don't think RTD actually gave that much thought to the Time War.
Of course not but he was still the one to write it into the show.
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Old 11-11-2013, 21:08
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Would you bring them back Grisonaut if you were showrunner?
As they were in Classic? No, I don't think so. I can see RTD's point, as the Time Lords were like a sci-fi version of a 70's courtroom drama.

I liked the Dalton crew of Time Lords, and it looks like that will get re-written. In fact, Moff has said the 50th will set out a new course for the Doctor. So, any way you cut it, it has to involve the Time Lords and Gallifrey.

Also, someone on the forum said that we were running out of Classic protagonists, and I think that's right (apologies to the FM in question, I can't quite remember who said it).

Apart from the Angel's, what NuWho adversary is really worth bringing back?

Actually, that's probably a whole different thread
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Old 11-11-2013, 22:22
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As they were in Classic? No, I don't think so. I can see RTD's point, as the Time Lords were like a sci-fi version of a 70's courtroom drama.

I liked the Dalton crew of Time Lords, and it looks like that will get re-written. In fact, Moff has said the 50th will set out a new course for the Doctor. So, any way you cut it, it has to involve the Time Lords and Gallifrey.

Also, someone on the forum said that we were running out of Classic protagonists, and I think that's right (apologies to the FM in question, I can't quite remember who said it).

Apart from the Angel's, what NuWho adversary is really worth bringing back?

Actually, that's probably a whole different thread
The Beast!
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Old 11-11-2013, 22:35
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More ood would be 'ood.
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Old 11-11-2013, 22:52
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Apart from the Angel's, what NuWho adversary is really worth bringing back?

I doubt we'll see the Angels again for some time, Moffat himself has said he has no plans to do another story with them (he could of course be lying). So we may not see them again till another writer or showrunner does them.


The Silence and Madam K need to return.


The Krillitane with their ability to change form gives the show both a returning Monster and a brand new design.



More could maybe have been done with The Wire's species though the Great Intelligence taking over Broadband is probably too similar (maybe the GI and The Wire are the same species? )
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Old 11-11-2013, 22:56
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The Ood weren't an adversary.

Absorbaloff .... Sorry were you being serious. Umm maybe the Raxacoricofallapatorians on their own planet - no skin suits, the Silence, Judoon & the shadow proclamation.
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Old 11-11-2013, 22:57
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Rose is the Moment?
Cue Billie singing that Martine McCutcheon song "This is my moment."
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Old 11-11-2013, 22:58
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The Ood weren't an adversary.

Absorbaloff .... Sorry were you being serious. Umm maybe the Raxacoricofallapatorians on their own planet - no skin suits, the Silence, Judoon & the shadow proclamation.
The Twelfth Doctors stars in... Revenge of the Raxacoricofallapatorians.
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Old 11-11-2013, 23:00
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Cue Billie singing that Martine McCutcheon song "This is my moment."
a Moment like this?.
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Old 11-11-2013, 23:00
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No, hang on.

One Moment in Time..
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