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The All-New Non Fan-War SCDXI Thread + General SCD Discussion
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SCD-Observer
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“" to at the very least stay civil and friendly with one another, if not in all threads, then at least on this one "

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Now, you don't have to force yourself to say insincere things about the things/persons you don't like, but if you must 'criticise', please do so in a respectful manner. Or if you can't, then refrain from saying anything bad about it/him/her/them. "



Your statement here and in your opening post is flawed and seems somewhat hypocritical, and your thread also fails at the first hurdle given that you knock yourself of your high horse by insulting an individual fellow poster by name in your opening post, if I had started this thread I would be feeling slightly embarrassed at my abject failure about now.”

I broke my ignore rule because you contributed in the thread I started but I am a little disappointed in your response. But if I have been snarky with you in the past I apologise sincerely. Ever since I had you on ignore, I found my life here getting much easier, but I have read from others PMing me that you were a target of some really nasty campaign against you as a poster (while I was on a ban so I wasn't there to see it happen) and I am sorry to hear that. No one deserves that kind of treatment.
BuddyBontheNet
11-11-2013
Maybe I'll hang around a bit longer and join in with this thread. I'm posting from my phone though so I'll think about my reply & post again later when I'm not typing with one finger!
Jan2555*GG*
11-11-2013
Great thread SCD-O

Fav Celebs. Mark, Susanna & Natalie. I adore Mark but it has been very hard to watch him & Iveta career off their path so dramatically. So I have got fully behind Susanna & Kevin however a Natalie win would be fine by me.

Least Fav Celebs. Abbey & Fiona. Fiona is a lovely lady & I envy her looks (I am her age) but she is too bland for my taste. I don't dislike Abbey, which actually I expected too, but i don't exactly like her either.

Fav Pros. Kevin, Artem, Iveta & Pasha& Kristina

Least Fav Pros. James, Ola, Brendan & Aliona (if she stays) but more than them Anton

Fav dance this week. Susanna & Kevin

Least Fav dance this week. Mark & Iveta (god is pains me to say that)

Favourite judge Darcey. Apart from the 10 to Patrick
Least Favourite judge. Len
jtnorth
11-11-2013
Favourite: Mark. I just love him. I know he's not the best now, in terms of dancing, and his time is running out - and that's fair enough - but I have loved four of his dances as much as any dances this year, I think he's a darling, the sight of him crying has really upset me, and I would so love him to have another dance that works before he goes. He's so much my favourite that I'd say currently my second favourite is Sophie, partly because I really like her and partly because she hugged Mark on the results show. I think Natalie should win, unless Sophie regains her sparkle, and that is a real compliment because I never ever think the one that came with dance training should win, but I do like Natalie and I do want good things to come from this show for her. (Sorry I can't do short answers to this sort of thing. I don't think there is anyone I don't like and if any of the others beat Natalie fair enough, I don't think there is anyone I couldn't bear to see win.)

Favourite pro: There isn't really a pro I don't like. But particularly at this minute, Iveta, Kevin, Pasha, Ola and Aljaz. And I think Artem is hilarious.

Favourite this week: Susanna and Kevin and how they worked that dress.

Least favourite: Fiona - I liked her on ITT tonight and she totally deserves to still be there. It's only really that film where she was doing animal impersonations. That freaked me out a bit - I don't know why.

Least favourite pro: I think Kristina is a brilliant dancer and a really clever, superb teacher and I think she does a wonderful job whether she's given a good dancer or a complete no-hoper. I like her. It's just one thing that drives me mad - the way when they are waiting for the results, it's like someone's going to die. I feel like her celeb has to comfort her, not the other way around. Every week it drives me nuts, but it's the only thing I'd criticise her for. It feels mean to make so much of such a little thing.

Least favourite this week: I know Mark was the worst other than Dave and the dance-off was the right one. But for me it can't be him so then it's Fiona.
SCD-Observer
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by Jan2555*GG*:
“Great thread SCD-O
Favourite judge Darcey. Apart from the 10 to Patrick
Least Favourite judge. Len”

Thanks, Jan.

I forgot about judges.

My favourite judge at the moment has got to be Bruno. He may be over the top, but I found his scoring most consistent and even if he has something negative to say (and I may not always agree with him), he often says something else positive to soften the blow.

I liked Darcey until her strange marking this year. She also seemed lost for words sometimes when asked to critique the dances she just witnessed. Not sure why. But I liked the moment she had with Bruno in Len's Len last Saturday (Bruno kissed her and she received it with grace and elegance and humour).
SCD-Observer
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Maybe I'll hang around a bit longer and join in with this thread. I'm posting from my phone though so I'll think about my reply & post again later when I'm not typing with one finger! ”

Okay, looking forward to seeing you post soon! I found smartphone finger typing frustratingly cumbersome too, and it's only this series that I start using a smartphone to read and respond a forum.
Jan2555*GG*
11-11-2013
She will always have a special place in my heart for the withering look she gave Bruce when he called her Dave !!!

I love Bruno too actually
SCD-Observer
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by jtnorth:
“Favourite this week: Susanna and Kevin and how they worked that dress.”

Now do you think it was Kevin who suggested to Vikki el al. to add so many (godets?) in that dress because he's going to do an 18-pivot-turn stunt in the number? I know Pasha instructed the dressmakers specifically over how Chelsee should be dressed in the QS and how Kimberly should be dressed in the fusion dance, so I am just wondering if Kevin is doing the same here. Seems like a coincidence if the dress makers somehow knew way beforehand Kevin would choreograph so many pivots to show off their creation, which if they are not dancing to that waltz would look a little OTT like the dresses in the fuffy-duddy Come Dancing show in the past...
SCD-Observer
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by Jan2555*GG*:
“She will always have a special place in my heart for the withering look she gave Bruce when he called her Dave !!!

I love Bruno too actually”

Yes, classic TV moment.

The only sincere and positive thing I can say about Bruce right now is that he does look good for his age.
jtnorth
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Now do you think it was Kevin who suggested to Vikki el al. to add so many (godets?) in that dress because he's going to do an 18-pivot-turn stunt in the number? I know Pasha instructed the dressmakers specifically over how Chelsee should be dressed in the QS and how Kimberly should be dressed in the fusion dance, so I am just wondering if Kevin is doing the same here. Seems like a coincidence if the dress makers somehow knew way beforehand Kevin would choreograph so many pivots to show off their creation, which if they are not dancing to that waltz would look a little OTT like the dresses in the fuffy-duddy Come Dancing show in the past...”

I thought perhaps that they'd seen Iveta's waltz dress (best dress this series imo) and wanted a similar effect, and then, yes, Kevin had imagined something like that when he'd choreographed the dance. But I don't know enough about waltzes or the making of feathery dresses to know!

edited for typo
TerryM22
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“I broke my ignore rule because you contributed in the thread I started but I am a little disappointed in your response. But if I have been snarky with you in the past I apologise sincerely. Ever since I had you on ignore, I found my life here getting much easier, but I have read from others PMing me that you were a target of some really nasty campaign against you as a poster (while I was on a ban so I wasn't there to see it happen) and I am sorry to hear that. No one deserves that kind of treatment.”



I'm sorry that you are disappointed in my response, but it was you that chose to refer to me by name in your opening post a point which by the way you have not addressed in your reply, and which will undoubtedly fuel the on-going public and private campaign that you speak of, I am pleased to hear however that you are not a member of the hunting pack and for that I am grateful, I normally do not respond to such things but there comes a time when something has to be said.
SCD-Observer
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“I'm sorry that you are disappointed in my response, but it was you that chose to refer to me by name in your opening post a point which by the way you have not addressed in your reply, and which will undoubtedly fuel the on-going public and private campaign that you speak of, I am pleased to hear however that you are not a member of the hunting pack and for that I am grateful, I normally do not respond to such things but there comes a time when something has to be said.”

I think you got me wrong there, Terry. When I say 'terry territory' I simply mean I have lengthened the Title of the thread to a considerable length, like yours. I don't mind your long thread titles by the way but I know some other posters find long thread titles annoying, thus I apologised in my OP.
Pet Monkey
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“I'm sorry that you are disappointed in my response, but it was you that chose to refer to me by name in your opening post a point which by the way you have not addressed in your reply, and which will undoubtedly fuel the on-going public and private campaign that you speak of, I am pleased to hear however that you are not a member of the hunting pack and for that I am grateful, I normally do not respond to such things but there comes a time when something has to be said.”

Just to put you on notice that if I ever refer to you as 'that bloody Terry', or related phrases, all likely to burst onto my keyboard, it will be entirely affectionate.

Not everyone is against you, ya know! (And this is a friendly thread }
SCD-Observer
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by Pet Monkey:
“Just to put you on notice that if I ever refer to you as 'that bloody Terry', or related phrases, all likely to burst onto my keyboard, it will be entirely affectionate.

Not everyone is against you, ya know! (And this is a friendly thread }”

*waves at Pet*
TerryM22
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“I think you got me wrong there, Terry. When I say 'terry territory' I simply mean I have lengthened the Title of the thread to a considerable length, like yours. I don't mind your long thread titles by the way but I know some other posters find long thread titles annoying, thus I apologised in my OP. ”

I accept what you say on face value and there is no need to apologise to me, its just that singling me out and naming me in your opening post could be interpreted in a different way by a small minority of others, this may be a very active discussion forum, but I always endeavour to be polite and courteous to others.
SCD-Observer
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“I accept what you say on face value and there is no need to apologise to me, its just that singling me out and naming me in your opening post could be interpreted in a different way by a small minority of others, this may be a very active discussion forum, but I always endeavour to be polite and courteous to others.”

Nice to know we come to some positive mutual understanding here. Do you have anything to add in this thread about your favourites and your least favourites of this series? Feel free to contribute. I will make it a point to read your posts in this thread (and respond, if need be).
karina_
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by jtnorth:
“I thought perhaps that they'd seen Iveta's waltz dress (best dress this series imo) and wanted a similar effect, and then, yes, Kevin had imagined something like that when he'd choreographed the dance. But I don't know enough about waltzes or the making of feathery dresses to know!

edited for typo”

Also Kevin's sister Joanne tends to favour feathered hemlines when she's competing so that may have influenced him as well.
karina_
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“I accept what you say on face value and there is no need to apologise to me, its just that singling me out and naming me in your opening post could be interpreted in a different way by a small minority of others, this may be a very active discussion forum, but I always endeavour to be polite and courteous to others.”


No need to worry, I'm sure everybody understood exactly what SCD-O meant.
TerryM22
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by Pet Monkey:
“Just to put you on notice that if I ever refer to you as 'that bloody Terry', or related phrases, all likely to burst onto my keyboard, it will be entirely affectionate.

Not everyone is against you, ya know! (And this is a friendly thread }”


There is no need for you to say that Pet, I am already aware of your longstanding kindness, the kind comments from yourself and many other posters at difficult times for me have all been noticed and remembered, and I am eternally grateful for every single one of them and every single poster that has inconvienienced themselves and taken the time to make them.
SCD-Observer
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by karina_:
“Also Kevin's sister Joanne tends to favour feathered hemlines when she's competing so that may have influenced him as well.”

Ah, I didn't know this. Thanks for the tidbit.

Anyone witnessed Joanne danced before? Any youtube recommendations out there? Is she called Joanne Clifton or is she already married and has a different last name?

edit: Is this Joanne in action? Gosh she is good, though she sings in the routine, and she did that Karen Hauer tango horse-kicking sequence in the routine.
primer
12-11-2013
Favourite celeb this week - Patrick for another quietly first rate dance

Favourite pro overall - kristina, great choreographer, great dancer, nice lady. And gorgeous of course.

Favourite couple this week - susannah and Kevin a lovely dance from them, genuinely quite moving, and Kevin really showed his ballroom credentials

Least fave celeb - dave. Glad he's gone

Least fave pro overall - James Jordan. Few redeeming features, in fact I can't think of any. Except that he isn't the worst male dancer. That's anton

Least fave couple - anton and Fiona. More anton though. He really doesn't give a stuff about his partners does he.
SCD-Observer
12-11-2013
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Ah, I didn't know this. Thanks for the tidbit.

Anyone witnessed Joanne danced before? Any youtube recommendations out there? Is she called Joanne Clifton or is she already married and has a different last name?

edit: Is this Joanne in action? Gosh she is good, though she sings in the routine, and she did that Karen Hauer tango horse-kicking sequence in the routine.”

Oh my giddy aunt! This is another amazing clip where she does all the ballroom dances in one routine. She's amazing! No wonder Kevin considers himself as the black sheep of the family!
molo flapian
12-11-2013
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Oh my giddy aunt! This is another amazing clip where she does all the ballroom dances in one routine. She's amazing! No wonder Kevin considers himself as the black sheep of the family!”

Omfgwow.
Stunned I am! That was mental.
I gasped at Nat's head rolling but WHAT??!!!!!
Honest. I thought she'd fainted
(swearword) awesome talent!

Cheers for this SC.
back to contribute to the thread soon.
SCD-Observer
12-11-2013
Originally Posted by molo flapian:
“Omfgwow.
Stunned I am! That was mental.
I gasped at Nat's head rolling but WHAT??!!!!!
Honest. I thought she'd fainted
(swearword) awesome talent!

Cheers for this SC.
back to contribute to the thread soon.”

"Are we human, or are we dancer?!"

With regards to the 18-pivot turns of Kevin and Susanna, Kevi might have been inspired by his sister's stint in the pro world doing it with that Paolo guy. Strange in this so-called slow waltz that she's doing, I can't help but notice it's in a four-four beat, when traditionally waltz should be in three-four beat??? Any one familiar with ballroom waltz (dancer or teacher or both) can enlighten on this point mayhap?
peeve
12-11-2013
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Oh my giddy aunt! This is another amazing clip where she does all the ballroom dances in one routine. She's amazing! No wonder Kevin considers himself as the black sheep of the family!”

She's a stunning dancer. Thanks for finding this, SCD-O.

Although it's 10/10 for the dancing, I'd give it 0/10 for diplomacy - who thought it would be a good idea to do a show dance in Stuttgart to 'Springtime For Hitler' from The Producers?
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