Maybe there is still hope for the Ferreiras. They should atleast bring them back and give them some screen time before they leave.
EastEnders 7th Feb
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See this house where the Moons are squatting?
HOW is that Johnny's house?
Barry inherited it from Roy, and then Janine inherited it when Barry died... she got the jail, so im guessing it somehow got sold to Johnny? (i didnt know they made jailbirds sell off their assets).
HOW is that Johnny's house?
Barry inherited it from Roy, and then Janine inherited it when Barry died... she got the jail, so im guessing it somehow got sold to Johnny? (i didnt know they made jailbirds sell off their assets).
They don't but maybe Janine needed some money to pay for her defence or something.
Btw the Moons are no longer squatting.
Btw the Moons are no longer squatting.
They really need to address the whole Janine storyline, what happened to her after she was arrested that night in the Square. I definitely see scope for a spin off showing what happened after she was taken away, with a view to returning to Walford. I like when the spijn offs lead into a storyline in the main show.
I think its a bit of a wasted opportunity if theres no trial at least, John Yorke I would hope has considered getting Charlie Brooks to return.
I think its a bit of a wasted opportunity if theres no trial at least, John Yorke I would hope has considered getting Charlie Brooks to return.
Does anybody think that Chrissie is going to frame Zoe for Dens murder... She really doesnt like her going by last nights episode. Does she force Zoe to have an abortion??
As for Keith Miller....scum... scum.. scum.. that father is such a waste of space... getting his girlfriend to work so he can have free pints. The benefit fraud investigator was a joke.. as if he couldnt smell the drink off the fathers breath. How are the kids meant to learn any respect with a moran like that for a role model. Get rid of the father and keep the rest of the family.
Stacy was funny saying that she paid for the alcohol with her taxes.
As for Keith Miller....scum... scum.. scum.. that father is such a waste of space... getting his girlfriend to work so he can have free pints. The benefit fraud investigator was a joke.. as if he couldnt smell the drink off the fathers breath. How are the kids meant to learn any respect with a moran like that for a role model. Get rid of the father and keep the rest of the family.
Stacy was funny saying that she paid for the alcohol with her taxes.
Originally Posted by WalfordWill:
“They really need to address the whole Janine storyline, what happened to her after she was arrested that night in the Square. I definitely see scope for a spin off showing what happened after she was taken away, with a view to returning to Walford. I like when the spijn offs lead into a storyline in the main show.
I think its a bit of a wasted opportunity if theres no trial at least, John Yorke I would hope has considered getting Charlie Brooks to return.”
“They really need to address the whole Janine storyline, what happened to her after she was arrested that night in the Square. I definitely see scope for a spin off showing what happened after she was taken away, with a view to returning to Walford. I like when the spijn offs lead into a storyline in the main show.
I think its a bit of a wasted opportunity if theres no trial at least, John Yorke I would hope has considered getting Charlie Brooks to return.”
That's a good idea. It's something they really need to sort out, at the moment its a gapping hole. Janine's arrest was such a big storyline and, as it hasn't been mentioned again, I don't think they can just get away with Dot passing some 'See Janine got sent down for life yesterday' type comment. A spin off would be ideal, although difficult as they would need to involve other Square residents as witnesses surely (Pat at least) and no mention has been made of this over the months.
What they could have done, if the actress agreed, was make mention of the upcoming trial, show Pat setting off to see solicitors etc, and they have the trial as a special over a few nights, seperate to EE, but seeing the effects of whats happening day by day in Court in the main episodes. Although it was a great exit for Janine, I think it once more showed the lack of foresight at EE during LB's reign, because if the actress doesn't want to come back, they're left with it all ending as a damp squib or just being forgotten about, it's something they should have made sure Charlie Brookes was committed to do if they were going to go down this route.
I didn't see last nights episodes, so pretty obviously won't comment on it
Originally Posted by Agent Krycek:
“That's a good idea. It's something they really need to sort out, at the moment its a gapping hole. Janine's arrest was such a big storyline and, as it hasn't been mentioned again, I don't think they can just get away with Dot passing some 'See Janine got sent down for life yesterday' type comment. A spin off would be ideal, although difficult as they would need to involve other Square residents as witnesses surely (Pat at least) and no mention has been made of this over the months.
What they could have done, if the actress agreed, was make mention of the upcoming trial, show Pat setting off to see solicitors etc, and they have the trial as a special over a few nights, seperate to EE, but seeing the effects of whats happening day by day in Court in the main episodes. Although it was a great exit for Janine, I think it once more showed the lack of foresight at EE during LB's reign, because if the actress doesn't want to come back, they're left with it all ending as a damp squib or just being forgotten about, it's something they should have made sure Charlie Brookes was committed to do if they were going to go down this route.
I didn't see last nights episodes, so pretty obviously won't comment on it”
“That's a good idea. It's something they really need to sort out, at the moment its a gapping hole. Janine's arrest was such a big storyline and, as it hasn't been mentioned again, I don't think they can just get away with Dot passing some 'See Janine got sent down for life yesterday' type comment. A spin off would be ideal, although difficult as they would need to involve other Square residents as witnesses surely (Pat at least) and no mention has been made of this over the months.
What they could have done, if the actress agreed, was make mention of the upcoming trial, show Pat setting off to see solicitors etc, and they have the trial as a special over a few nights, seperate to EE, but seeing the effects of whats happening day by day in Court in the main episodes. Although it was a great exit for Janine, I think it once more showed the lack of foresight at EE during LB's reign, because if the actress doesn't want to come back, they're left with it all ending as a damp squib or just being forgotten about, it's something they should have made sure Charlie Brookes was committed to do if they were going to go down this route.
I didn't see last nights episodes, so pretty obviously won't comment on it
”
Absoloutely, Louise couldn't see past the end of her nose when it came to EastEnders and future storylines. When Charlie Brooks said she wanted to leave, had I been Exec Producer I would have said "Right Charlie, heres the thing. Currently we have this storyline going on where you have "murdered Barry" over the course of weeks different characters i.e. Nat and Pat will cotton on that you were involved in his death. Now, this is how we see your exit"
Yadda yadda, they describe the scenario, the rough plans for her exit episode. Then say "However, surely you realise you are one of the big ratings winners on the show at the moment. We would like you to return a few months down the road for a trial, possibly set in a spin off to run parallell to the main four night schedule"
Something like that, I'm sure if the storyline was written well, Charlie would have returned, then Janine could have been sent down, we'd have seen some closure, then maybe new evidence or new testimony could come to light and she's let out. Pat could suffer an attack of concience having lied under oath an watched how Janine fell apart as she was sent down for something she didn't do. Leaving plenty of scope for a possible full time return to Walford for Janine.
They couldnt' just have Dot passing comment on it over a bloody mary in the Vic. Pat would be needed as a witness, several witnesses would have seen Laura and Janine brawling in the street that week, the characters who were present the night they had the fight in the club, Ian Beale would be called as he had spoken to Laura minutes before she died.
Ultimately the big pivotal role in the evidence would be Pat, who knows Janine didn't kill Laura. A big storyline for Charlie Brooks and Pam St Clement, with all the history of the Butchers between them.
A big storyline to be had there, a wasted opportunity if they dont' follow it up. As Janine's exit was one of few class episodes from last year.
Does people know that Charlie left to have a baby?!? So I doubt she would want to return as I think she took time off completely to look after her child. A passing comment, or Pat leaving to act as a witness would be just as sufficient. Talking of stories suddenly ended...what the hell happened to Pyscho Sarah?!?
I agree Lazy Gal, I have always said that The Ferreiras could be rescused under better storylines. They were used as a scapegoat for EE's decline and that wasn't fair. If they had been introduced and integrated into the square in the first place, they would probably still be around (more) today.
I agree Lazy Gal, I have always said that The Ferreiras could be rescused under better storylines. They were used as a scapegoat for EE's decline and that wasn't fair. If they had been introduced and integrated into the square in the first place, they would probably still be around (more) today.
Originally Posted by WalfordWill:
“Absoloutely, Louise couldn't see past the end of her nose when it came to EastEnders and future storylines. When Charlie Brooks said she wanted to leave, had I been Exec Producer I would have said "Right Charlie, heres the thing. Currently we have this storyline going on where you have "murdered Barry" over the course of weeks different characters i.e. Nat and Pat will cotton on that you were involved in his death. Now, this is how we see your exit"
Yadda yadda, they describe the scenario, the rough plans for her exit episode. Then say "However, surely you realise you are one of the big ratings winners on the show at the moment. We would like you to return a few months down the road for a trial, possibly set in a spin off to run parallell to the main four night schedule"
Something like that, I'm sure if the storyline was written well, Charlie would have returned, then Janine could have been sent down, we'd have seen some closure, then maybe new evidence or new testimony could come to light and she's let out. Pat could suffer an attack of concience having lied under oath an watched how Janine fell apart as she was sent down for something she didn't do. Leaving plenty of scope for a possible full time return to Walford for Janine.
They couldnt' just have Dot passing comment on it over a bloody mary in the Vic. Pat would be needed as a witness, several witnesses would have seen Laura and Janine brawling in the street that week, the characters who were present the night they had the fight in the club, Ian Beale would be called as he had spoken to Laura minutes before she died.
Ultimately the big pivotal role in the evidence would be Pat, who knows Janine didn't kill Laura. A big storyline for Charlie Brooks and Pam St Clement, with all the history of the Butchers between them.
A big storyline to be had there, a wasted opportunity if they dont' follow it up. As Janine's exit was one of few class episodes from last year.”
“Absoloutely, Louise couldn't see past the end of her nose when it came to EastEnders and future storylines. When Charlie Brooks said she wanted to leave, had I been Exec Producer I would have said "Right Charlie, heres the thing. Currently we have this storyline going on where you have "murdered Barry" over the course of weeks different characters i.e. Nat and Pat will cotton on that you were involved in his death. Now, this is how we see your exit"
Yadda yadda, they describe the scenario, the rough plans for her exit episode. Then say "However, surely you realise you are one of the big ratings winners on the show at the moment. We would like you to return a few months down the road for a trial, possibly set in a spin off to run parallell to the main four night schedule"
Something like that, I'm sure if the storyline was written well, Charlie would have returned, then Janine could have been sent down, we'd have seen some closure, then maybe new evidence or new testimony could come to light and she's let out. Pat could suffer an attack of concience having lied under oath an watched how Janine fell apart as she was sent down for something she didn't do. Leaving plenty of scope for a possible full time return to Walford for Janine.
They couldnt' just have Dot passing comment on it over a bloody mary in the Vic. Pat would be needed as a witness, several witnesses would have seen Laura and Janine brawling in the street that week, the characters who were present the night they had the fight in the club, Ian Beale would be called as he had spoken to Laura minutes before she died.
Ultimately the big pivotal role in the evidence would be Pat, who knows Janine didn't kill Laura. A big storyline for Charlie Brooks and Pam St Clement, with all the history of the Butchers between them.
A big storyline to be had there, a wasted opportunity if they dont' follow it up. As Janine's exit was one of few class episodes from last year.”
Janine's exit was typical I think of the drivel served up in 2004 by EE. While Charlie Brooks did her best with the material, the final episode was utterly ridiculous - especially when all her cash was flung in the air and the onlookers just looked on - not one of the dove in to grab the cash
The episode was pure ratings chasing, and yes it delivered, but the quality of the writing was dire and as shown recently it was never followed through. Janine hasnt been mentioned in months.
Trully awful stuff!
Originally Posted by Jumpy:
“Does people know that Charlie left to have a baby?!? So I doubt she would want to return as I think she took time off completely to look after her child. A passing comment, or Pat leaving to act as a witness would be just as sufficient. Talking of stories suddenly ended...what the hell happened to Pyscho Sarah?!?
I agree Lazy Gal, I have always said that The Ferreiras could be rescused under better storylines. They were used as a scapegoat for EE's decline and that wasn't fair. If they had been introduced and integrated into the square in the first place, they would probably still be around (more) today.”
“Does people know that Charlie left to have a baby?!? So I doubt she would want to return as I think she took time off completely to look after her child. A passing comment, or Pat leaving to act as a witness would be just as sufficient. Talking of stories suddenly ended...what the hell happened to Pyscho Sarah?!?
I agree Lazy Gal, I have always said that The Ferreiras could be rescused under better storylines. They were used as a scapegoat for EE's decline and that wasn't fair. If they had been introduced and integrated into the square in the first place, they would probably still be around (more) today.”
I don't think she did leave to have a baby. IIRC she found out she was pregnant either just before or just after she left, her exit was already planned by that point.
Also, yes The Ferreiras, or at least some of them, were very saveable and could have become a good family, but the writers insisted on writing them very isolating storylines, never integrated them into the Square until they just evolved into a single, weird many legged mass. Even when they brought in the blonde woman she just got sucked into the creature, never integrated into the Square, and became as isolated as the rest of them.
Charlie Brooks left to "pursue other projects" she found out she was pregnant a month or so after leaving EE.
Originally Posted by Agent Krycek:
“I don't think she did leave to have a baby. IIRC she found out she was pregnant either just before or just after she left, her exit was already planned by that point.
Also, yes The Ferreiras, or at least some of them, were very saveable and could have become a good family, but the writers insisted on writing them very isolating storylines, never integrated them into the Square until they just evolved into a single, weird many legged mass. Even when they brought in the blonde woman she just got sucked into the creature, never integrated into the Square, and became as isolated as the rest of them.”
“I don't think she did leave to have a baby. IIRC she found out she was pregnant either just before or just after she left, her exit was already planned by that point.
Also, yes The Ferreiras, or at least some of them, were very saveable and could have become a good family, but the writers insisted on writing them very isolating storylines, never integrated them into the Square until they just evolved into a single, weird many legged mass. Even when they brought in the blonde woman she just got sucked into the creature, never integrated into the Square, and became as isolated as the rest of them.”
Oh right, well it is still not as easy as some mention to get her back. From pictures she seems to be enjoying motherhood
Originally Posted by Queen-Of-Walford:
“That was a very good episode for Eastenders good acting and well wrote no big storylines everything just moving along nicely. I like Amanda she seems like she could be a good character I understand at the moment she is on a trial to see if she proves popular.
9/10”
“That was a very good episode for Eastenders good acting and well wrote no big storylines everything just moving along nicely. I like Amanda she seems like she could be a good character I understand at the moment she is on a trial to see if she proves popular.
9/10”
You need to re-consider your rating system system, if this ep was 9/10 then what would you rate classic episodes as
Zoe finding out Kat was her mum?
Grant finding out about Sharon & phil ?
etc etc etc!
I seem to remember Charlie saying she discovered the pregnancy after she'd filmed her final scenes.
Last we heard of mad Sarah she was in prison.
Speaking of which does anybody know what happened to Mad Maya over in Coronation Street?
Last we heard of mad Sarah she was in prison.
Speaking of which does anybody know what happened to Mad Maya over in Coronation Street?
Originally Posted by Lazy Gal:
“I seem to remember Charlie saying she discovered the pregnancy after she'd filmed her final scenes.
Last we heard of mad Sarah she was in prison.
Speaking of which does anybody know what happened to Mad Maya over in Coronation Street?”
“I seem to remember Charlie saying she discovered the pregnancy after she'd filmed her final scenes.
Last we heard of mad Sarah she was in prison.
Speaking of which does anybody know what happened to Mad Maya over in Coronation Street?”
Wasn't she on a life support machine?!?
Exactly atleast we know where Mad Sarah is. The Maya thing is even MORE of a stupid cliffhanger because she was last on a life support machine which IMHO means she was facing life or death.
Originally Posted by Lazy Gal:
“Exactly atleast we know where Mad Sarah is. The Maya thing is even MORE of a stupid cliffhanger because she was last on a life support machine which IMHO means she was facing life or death.”
“Exactly atleast we know where Mad Sarah is. The Maya thing is even MORE of a stupid cliffhanger because she was last on a life support machine which IMHO means she was facing life or death.”
No, it was mentioned that the police were never going to give her bail
The reason I am annoyed with the Pyscho Sarah thing is that it was all forgotten about! That was it, finished.
With the Mad Maya storyline we had Sunita and Dev trying to rebuild their lives, so at least it has some aftermath. Sarah was so over hyped it was a let down after the climax!
It had a reasonable aftermath episode where Pauline saw the mess the house was in and was trying to scrub the blood off the table cloth but then Martin & Sonia went to America I think so there couldn't be much of an aftermath without them being around.
The thing with Maya is she should never have set fire to Dev and Sunitas shops in the first place. I've researched on the internet and after what she did pretending to be Sunita etc and setting up the bigamy there isn't a chance on earth she would have got bail in the first place for the bigamy arrest.
The thing with Maya is she should never have set fire to Dev and Sunitas shops in the first place. I've researched on the internet and after what she did pretending to be Sunita etc and setting up the bigamy there isn't a chance on earth she would have got bail in the first place for the bigamy arrest.
Originally Posted by Lazy Gal:
“It had a reasonable aftermath episode where Pauline saw the mess the house was in and was trying to scrub the blood off the table cloth but then Martin & Sonia went to America I think so there couldn't be much of an aftermath without them being around.
The thing with Maya is she should never have set fire to Dev and Sunitas shops in the first place. I've researched on the internet and after what she did pretending to be Sunita etc and setting up the bigamy there isn't a chance on earth she would have got bail in the first place for the bigamy arrest.”
“It had a reasonable aftermath episode where Pauline saw the mess the house was in and was trying to scrub the blood off the table cloth but then Martin & Sonia went to America I think so there couldn't be much of an aftermath without them being around.
The thing with Maya is she should never have set fire to Dev and Sunitas shops in the first place. I've researched on the internet and after what she did pretending to be Sunita etc and setting up the bigamy there isn't a chance on earth she would have got bail in the first place for the bigamy arrest.”
I agree with that but it still made excellent viewing!
In all fairness...the aftermath of the Sarah storyline lasted one episode if I remember correctly?!? Also, wouldn't Sonia and Martin have had to stay in the country for the trial or something?!?
That's if EastEnders will do a trial. The shows been in a big enough mess so they might not want to rake over old ground.
Originally Posted by Lazy Gal:
“That's if EastEnders will do a trial. The shows been in a big enough mess so they might not want to rake over old ground.”
“That's if EastEnders will do a trial. The shows been in a big enough mess so they might not want to rake over old ground.”
I know, but they would need to be present in the country surely?!? So swanning off to Florida didn't do much. It is a shame as that was a decent storyline and as of late, EE blew it. I don't think an over long trial would have helped, but SOME mention of it!
mmm. But in the real world a trial wouldn't have come up yet. Has that happened yet, or has she just not been granted bail? 
Apologies if this has been dealt with but I am only glancing up between typing and working!
Apologies if this has been dealt with but I am only glancing up between typing and working!
What, Maya? theres no chance of bail I think I heard Dev tell Sunita a few weeks ago. There is a trial apparently in the pipeline though, but I don't think its a priority storyline at the moment.
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