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EastEnders 7th Feb
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NewWoman
08-02-2005
How long ago did Janine go? Surely by now Pat and Ian would have received letters regarding the dtae of her trial?

I cant see Charlie Brooks coming back to film a court scene but surely we could have Pat and Ian talking about the trial to other people. It would definitely be discussed.

Enjoyed last nights episode. Loving Chrissie and think its a great storyline. A lot of women would want revenge after what Den has put her through and she seems the type to go down fighting.
Johnny Allen seems to be fitting in well but still finding it stange to watch someone so familiar on tv.
LiverpoolFCGirl
08-02-2005
The advertisement that was on straight after the episode was good too! Chrissie means business!
Jumpy
08-02-2005
I love Johnny by the way. A true gent with a darker side. I was saying to my mum that I think he is going to be the local "hardman" and that he will treat people how they deserved to be treated (kind of like looking after your own)...to which she replied..."What,like Robin Hood?"
raciosis
08-02-2005
i too think a janine trial would be good. john yorke gave her some fantastic scripts.

most of the top 20 shown in ukgold this weekend were the work of john yorke so i think charlie would be in good hands if she decided to return !!!!!
Bobthechicken
08-02-2005
Originally Posted by Jumpy:
“The reason I am annoyed with the Pyscho Sarah thing is that it was all forgotten about! That was it, finished.”

It happens all the time in Eastenders, in all soaps for that matter. Take Charlie for instance - there he is at the moment working double shifts because, as he says, he is "the only one in this family earning any money". So who the hell was earning money for the period of time when he didn't hve his cab licence ? He has only just got it back. That's the trouble - things are just forgotten about by the writers for most of the time and then they introduce a problem for a couple of weeks to coincide with whatever the current plot is. You watch, after a couple of weeks Charlie will be sat on his big fat arse again and the cash problems will all be forgotten.

Sarah was arrested and that's it. Forgotten about. Janine was arrested. Forgotten. Laura died. Forgotten.

My other gripe at the moment is that absolutely everyone that comes into EE has to have a house there. Why? Why does Johnny Allen have to have a house there? What on earth would he want to live in a dump like that for? It's not believable. Can we expect Chrissie's friend to be conveniently finding an empty house/flat to move into soon? What is wrong with the EE writers? Is it so difficult to have people in the program that don't actually live there?

On the Millers - I actually don't mind them so much now (apart from Mickey who can't be gone too quickly as far as I am concerned). I think that they have developed Rosie's character quite well. There are moments when you feel quite sorry for her. They are all forgotten of course when she starts shouting her mouth off in front of the neighbours.........Keith is a bit over the top and the crappy idea of him watching documentaries on tv all the time is just pathetic and Demi is turning into a good character as well. The other kid - just another typically average child actor.
Jumpy
08-02-2005
You forgot Dots cancer story, which was just re-opened when she got her test results
raciosis
08-02-2005
but that happens in every soap , things just seem to be forgotten. was glad with them reopening dots storyline as june brown is a fab actress
Jumpy
08-02-2005
Originally Posted by raciosis:
“but that happens in every soap , things just seem to be forgotten. was glad with them reopening dots storyline as june brown is a fab actress”

I was too, it was a shame we didn't see her in hospital.
NewWoman
08-02-2005
Originally Posted by Bobthechicken:
“It happens all the time in Eastenders, in all soaps for that matter. Take Charlie for instance - there he is at the moment working double shifts because, as he says, he is "the only one in this family earning any money". So who the hell was earning money for the period of time when he didn't hve his cab licence ? He has only just got it back. That's the trouble - things are just forgotten about by the writers for most of the time and then they introduce a problem for a couple of weeks to coincide with whatever the current plot is. You watch, after a couple of weeks Charlie will be sat on his big fat arse again and the cash problems will all be forgotten.

Sarah was arrested and that's it. Forgotten about. Janine was arrested. Forgotten. Laura died. Forgotten.

My other gripe at the moment is that absolutely everyone that comes into EE has to have a house there. Why? Why does Johnny Allen have to have a house there? What on earth would he want to live in a dump like that for? It's not believable. Can we expect Chrissie's friend to be conveniently finding an empty house/flat to move into soon? What is wrong with the EE writers? Is it so difficult to have people in the program that don't actually live there?
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The problem I have with Charlie is that he must be the only cabbie in London who lives in a council house. I know a few cab drivers and most of them a fairly loaded. Plus they all live out in Essex.

As for Johnny, I'd imagine he owns houses to rent out rather than live in. He's probably got cash lying about he needs to tie up and what better than buying houses? Didnt he say last night he had a tenant lined up when he was speaking to Alfie?
Lazy Gal
08-02-2005
They did show they hadn't forgotten Dot's cancer and it would have taken a long time to get the test results back - I remember the consultant telling her that.
Janine went AGES ago. Sarah's last episode was Friday 22nd October 2004 so it's been quite a while for her too.
The mention of her status on Monday 25th October 2004 was that she was being held in custody.
Jumpy
08-02-2005
Originally Posted by Lazy Gal:
“They did show they hadn't forgotten Dot's cancer and it would have taken a long time to get the test results back - I remember the consultant telling her that.
Janine went AGES ago. Sarah's last episode was Friday 22nd October 2004 so it's been quite a while for her too.
The mention of her status on Monday 25th October 2004 was that she was being held in custody.”

The did when they didn't show her in hospital after all the hype! Why hype up a storyline and only half deliver?!?
raciosis
08-02-2005
well hopefully john yorke will see these gaping plot holes have to be filled, even martin mentioning sarah or recieving a dubious text would be sufficient, or ian and pat getting letters to say they need to appear in court
Lippincote
08-02-2005
Originally Posted by Jumpy:
“I love Johnny by the way. A true gent with a darker side. I was saying to my mum that I think he is going to be the local "hardman" and that he will treat people how they deserved to be treated (kind of like looking after your own)...to which she replied..."What,like Robin Hood?" ”

It occurred to me last night when Johnny was in the pub saying hello to Dot etc, that he has been brought in not to replace Andy at all, but to replace Den. Same age, hard man, knows all the regulars from the past, sense of community. Could work well but would prefer they'd kept Den. Ah well.

Johnny was obviously one of Pat's 'clients' from the old days. Must have been a very long time ago

Not a bad eppy if you delete Danny and Jake and Alfie - and the Millers. Shana is fine but the woman who plays Rosie can't act, and they have made Keith so vile -and yet uninteresting - that I can hardly bear to watch him. The Millers urgently need culling.
enoughisenough
08-02-2005
Originally Posted by Bobthechicken:
“ My other gripe at the moment is that absolutely everyone that comes into EE has to have a house there. Why? Why does Johnny Allen have to have a house there? What on earth would he want to live in a dump like that for? It's not believable. Can we expect Chrissie's friend to be conveniently finding an empty house/flat to move into soon? What is wrong with the EE writers? Is it so difficult to have people in the program that don't actually live there?
”

I'm not sure I get your arguement re Johnny not living on the square. Are you suggesting they build a new lot to film on for one character? Walford is what it is, the show doesn't use location for any of it's permenent set. So would Johnny have to keep popping round and we never see his home life? Might work I suppose but very limited.
Lazy Gal
08-02-2005
I am really enjoying the serious issue of benefit fraud that is being tackled. It's different from rape, murder, incest etc. It's a really different issue and it looks like it could be a good storyline, does anyone else agree?

On the subject of Dot not being shown in hospital - I agree that was a bit silly but atleast they didn't forget the cancer altogether.
WalfordWill
08-02-2005
Well this was Louise Berridge's major flaw was forgetting what happened last week when putting together this week. The fairground was a typical example, not one person has mentioned it since it happened. Same with Janine, same with Sarah, not one of her storylines in the last year or so had any type of aftereffect that lasted longer than five minutes.

Hopefully John Yorke and particularly Tony Jordan will remember this.
WalfordWill
08-02-2005
Originally Posted by Lazy Gal:
“I am really enjoying the serious issue of benefit fraud that is being tackled. It's different from rape, murder, incest etc. It's a really different issue and it looks like it could be a good storyline, does anyone else agree?

On the subject of Dot not being shown in hospital - I agree that was a bit silly but atleast they didn't forget the cancer altogether.”

Yep I agree, we need to more everyday realism in Enders, I'm glad they're doing this.
Lazy Gal
08-02-2005
It looks like Kathleen Hutchison or whoever planned this storyline have looked at the Millers and decided to put a realistic spin on them.
**Brooke**
08-02-2005
Does anyone know if Den ever slept with Sam (or was it just Dennis)
enoughisenough
08-02-2005
Originally Posted by **Brooke**:
“Does anyone know if Den ever slept with Sam (or was it just Dennis)”

No. I don't think he slept with Dennis......
Lazy Gal
08-02-2005
LOL Den didn't sleep with Dennis but he did sleep with Sam.
**Brooke**
08-02-2005
Very funny! I meant has Sam slept with both of them or did SHE only sleep with Dennis

anyway, if Sam slept with Den Chrissie obviously doesn't know coz when she walked into the cafe she said to Amanda "Den ruined her life as well" and Amanda asked if Sam had slept with Den and Chrissie said no. I wonder if it will come out?

By the way- list of people who have slept with Den & Dennis:
*Kate Mitchell
*Sam
*Zoe

Don't you think this is a bit sick!
Lazy Gal
08-02-2005
There's NO reason why it should come out. It happened before Chrissie even turned up.
Huch'net
08-02-2005
Mad Maya was done simply for ratings, which I said all along - they just thought about the short term and not the long term which is why the story was left unfinished - it was ridiculously over-hyped & drawn out over a week - more than the Sarah stalker, which infact makes it worse than EastEnders.

If they had killed Maya off, they'd just about gotten away with it, but again Dev & Sunita would be giving evidence, not running for presidency for some idotic thing.

"A night to remember" - yeah right, it will never be considered a classic it was totally over the top. I mean blowing up 6 shops over Dev Alahan, just repeat that in your head for a minute or two.
Lazy Gal
08-02-2005
LOL Huch'net I wont be remembering it I've nearly forgotten about it now.
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