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Android up, Windows up, Big screens up, iphone down
"phablets" now accounting for 21% of all smartphones shipped in Q3 2013, up from 3% same time last year, so a little over 1 in 5 already.
Windows Phone shipments are up 156% Android remains at the top increasing its share is up to 81% from 74% this time last year. iphone down again its market share is down to 12.9% from 14.4%, phone sales failing to keep pace with market growth. IDC reckons Apple’s failure to release a phablet-style device has had a negative impact on its market share. http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24442013 I am sure someone with a maths degree can calculate, at this rate of growth and decline for windows and apple, how long before windows is 2nd place
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"phablets" now accounting for 21% of all smartphones shipped in Q3 2013, up from 3% same time last year, so a little over 1 in 5 already.
Windows Phone shipments are up 156% Android remains at the top increasing its share is up to 81% from 74% this time last year. iphone down again its market share is down to 12.9% from 14.4%, phone sales failing to keep pace with market growth. IDC reckons Apple’s failure to release a phablet-style device has had a negative impact on its market share. http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24442013 I am sure someone with a maths degree can calculate, at this rate of growth and decline for windows and apple, how long before windows is 2nd place ![]() ![]() This is the old chestnut of course. Apple's market share of units is bound to decrease as the number of competing manufacturers increases, even though Apple's overall sales rise. All I can say is I'd still rather be a shareholder of Apple than any other single phone manufacturer. |
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As a point of interest: at what screen size does a phone become a phablet?
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As a point of interest: at what screen size does a phone become a phablet?
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Id say from the wording of the article that they are classing these phablets between 5 and 7 inches Quote:
"Almost all successful Android vendors have added one or more 5-7-inch phablets to their product portfolios," said Ryan Reith, Program Director with IDC's Worldwide Quarterly Mobile Phone Tracker. "And Nokia’s recent announcement of the Lumia 1320 and 1520 put them in the category as well. In 3Q13, phablet shipments accounted for 21% of the smartphone market, up from just 3% a year ago. We believe the absence of a large-screen device may have contributed to Apple's inability to grow share in the third quarter."
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That's what seems to be the commonly accepted range, yes.
Never seen a phone below 5 inches described as a phablet, never seen a phone above 5 inches not described as a phablet. |
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So getting on for double the amount of iPhone sales just in phablets very interesting. This obviously doesn't include the HTC one, s3, nexus, minis etc that fall below 5inches.
Certainly seems to put into perspective some peoples claim that android is made up of budget handsets. Also clearly shows that people are moving to bigger screens in drives and apple remains playing catch up. Such a pity TC dismissed big screens for their customers as they know best. |
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Percentages without also including the actual number of units is fairly meaningless. It's easy to get big increases in % if the volume is small, and there is no way to see if the total market size is growing so that a negative market share is actually still an increase in units sold.
Lies, Damm Lies and Statistics |
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The link in the OP gives exact breakdowns in numbers and percentages and tells you exactly whether or not the market is growing.
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Percentages without also including the actual number of units is fairly meaningless. It's easy to get big increases in % if the volume is small, and there is no way to see if the total market size is growing so that a negative market share is actually still an increase in units sold.
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I am sure someone with a maths degree can calculate, at this rate of growth and decline for windows and apple, how long before windows is 2nd place ![]() Q3 2015 would be 62million MS phones, 53 million apple phones. |
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You say that but stranger things, if windows can gain some traction who knows, roll on 2015
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You say that but stranger things, if windows can gain some traction who knows, roll on 2015
![]() I believe Windows phones are more in competition with the iPhone due to the ease of use and "restrictions". |
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"1 in 5 already.
Windows Phone shipments are up 156% I am sure someone with a maths degree can calculate, at this rate of growth and decline for windows and apple, how long before windows is 2nd place ![]() |
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Next iPhone will be 4.75 to 5 inches high resolution and sales will pick up again. iPhone users will 'upgrade' and new buyers will like it too.
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Not judging by the apple fans on here who require one handed use and pocketability. Also stretching that screen to 4.7 inches and remaining under the HD threshold will be very hard.
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Apple fans who require one handed use? You're so funny sometimes.
Preferring to be able to more comfortably use a phone with one hand is a perfectly valid preference, and has precisely nothing to do with being a "fan" of Apple. If you're so interested in numbers you may or may not be interested to know these two titbits: 1. Last year, 16% of people buying the new iPhone were switching from Android. This year the figure was 20%. 2. 66% of Android phones are low(er) end devices selling for $225 or less. So it depends whether or not you ant to limit your analysis to that one single figure, i.e. market share. |
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Manufacturers are still not giving us what we want. Two steps forward, one step back.
People are just trying to make the best of a fairly average set of phones from all makers. Seeing how things like phone cameras and flashes have actually got worse in some newer phone beggars belief. The choice of OS is the least of the problems. |
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1. Last year, 16% of people buying the new iPhone were switching from Android. This year the figure was 20%.
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Apple fans who require one handed use? You're so funny sometimes.
Preferring to be able to more comfortably use a phone with one hand is a perfectly valid preference, and has precisely nothing to do with being a "fan" of Apple. If you're so interested in numbers you may or may not be interested to know these two titbits: 1. Last year, 16% of people buying the new iPhone were switching from Android. This year the figure was 20%. 2. 66% of Android phones are low(er) end devices selling for $225 or less. So it depends whether or not you ant to limit your analysis to that one single figure, i.e. market share. And have we proved yet whether the 5s has sold more or less than the 5 did (in actual sales to people terms ?) ? 20% this year might actually be fewer than the 16% last year .... ALL statistics can be worded to lean in which ever direction you wish to be fair .... Id guess that as a percentage the number switching from iOS to Android would look much smaller (based on total number of Android sales compared to the smaller number of Apple users). As an actual 'number' the figure might be significantly higher. |
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So existing Apple owners upgrading has dropped from 84% to 80%? tsk tsk..
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Close but no cigar - the figure you really want is the proportion of iPhone owners switching from the iPhone to something else, as that figure doesn't take into account iPhone owners who just still with the iPhone they already have.
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Close but no cigar - the figure you really want is the proportion of iPhone owners switching from the iPhone to something else, as that figure doesn't take into account iPhone owners who just still with the iPhone they already have.
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Not judging by the apple fans on here who require one handed use and pocketability. Also stretching that screen to 4.7 inches and remaining under the HD threshold will be very hard.
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are iPhone sales actually down year on year? Apple has made no secret of the fact it regards market share as insignificant to its future plans. It doesn't reflect the reality, in terms of devices shipped and bought which matters more than martket share, Apple has increased this year on year. They remain the most profitable based on margins. They have as good as conceded they will never be able to keep up with market share purely due to having a smaller product portfolio comparative to that of say Samsung or Sony. The point is moot frankly, as it doesn't bare any relfection on the ability to make money. Obviously its different for Google as Android's gatekeeper, as the more marketshare it has, the more they get in advertising revenue.
Sooner or later market share is going to become an insignificant statistic and the finance industry will look to margins and profitability as a more important measure of success. |
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