Very good call, let's see how it plays out.

JH could always degenerate back into PM who then regenerates into CE thus maintaining the number order.

If the numbers do end up getting altered then that would mean Peter Capaldi is the final regeneration (that is, until they come up with a way to extend his regenerations, which I'm sure they will).

It seems they already have.

He isn't the doctor. The way I see it, at the moment anyway, is that he is the 9th incarnation of that body, but he isn't the ninth doctor. The doctor is a title. A title Hurt's character hasn't taken.

KAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Shakes fist)

(Apologies to the Shat)

But then theres this !

Corrected that for you. You had used an incorrect term for what would happen if The Doctor was to go back to a
previous incarnation of himself. If he degenerated, he'd look like The Master did between Delgado and Ainley.


The word you are looking for is regress, not degenerate. See my comment above.


You mean he'd be the final incarnation. Regeneration is the metamorphisis that occurs in between each
incarnation when a Time Lord is mortally wounded or seriously damaged, and needs to "cheat death".

No.

Eccleston has cut all ties with Who. There will be no regeneration

If both Hurt (which it seems he does) and the Meta Crisis Tenth Doctor (he still used up the same amount of regeneration energy) count then Matt Smith is the final Doctor as even though he would only be the 12th Incarnation he would have used up all (twelve) regenerations.


So if this is the case then Capaldi has to be the start of a new set of regenerations.

Maybe we'll see Hurt start to regenerate but it will cut to black before we see CE? Then we hear "Fantastic!" A CE appearence would be epic but I doubt he'd do it.

I have thought about this and wondered what with the technolgy they have these days in that they have obvioulsy used some trickery even if it is in reflection form of making JH appear young.

So with that in mind even though CE does not want to appear could they not employ the same or similar method for CE, after all is he able to dictate to the BBC saying they can't use his image etc

No I think thr point of introducing the sisterhood is too make clear it's not a proper regeneration, just an extention, so no doctor moves up any number

Or possibly anthor way of looking at is 8th doctor died without regenerating, the sisterhood gave him life so chris is he 1st doctor, tennant the second and so forth

I can feel the purists getting angry.

Lolol me too

Who are you, his agent? What do you know that we don't?

Whatever the number I do hope it's made clear by the end of the 50th how many regenerations there have been (or if it isn't answered that this is because it's a deliberate ongoing mystery that will be addressed and not just abandoned) because one thing is for sure, if Hurt counts and the 10th's regeneration that never was also counts, then why did the 11th begin to regenerate on the shore of Lake Silencio?

Personally I don't think the 10th's fake out counted because he said he syphoned the energy off and stopped it going the full hog, but there are plenty of folk out there who would disagree with me on that point.

As far as I can see the 11th is still the 11th oh or maybe the 3rd

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho...-Of-The-Doctor

What have I said that's untrue?

We know that Who is off-limits on most if not all interviews

He hasn't appeared in any publicity programmes or trailers, and 8 has had to regenerate into "War Doctor" rather than 9.

I think we can all say that Chris is semi-detached at the very least to the programme. He's cut all ties, there will be nothing but archive footage at the very, very most (similar to Tom Baker being slotted into the 1980s multi-doctor special)

Thanks for that link nextexit, great stuff!

None of that means there will definately not be a regeneration from Hurt to Ecclestone.

Moffat explains in the new issue of DWM,: “I’ve been really, really quite careful about the numbering of the Doctors. He’s very specific, the John Hurt Doctor, that he doesn’t take the name of the Doctor. He doesn’t call himself that. He’s the same Time Lord, the same being as the Doctors either side of him, but he’s the one who says, ‘I’m not the Doctor.’ So the Eleventh Doctor is still the Eleventh Doctor, the Tenth Doctor is still the Tenth…

He adds: “Technically, if you really counted it, the David Tennant Doctor is two Doctors, on account of the Meta-Crisis Doctor [in Journey's End]… It’s not a matter of counting the regenerations, but of counting the faces of the Time Lord that calls himself the Doctor. There’s an anomaly Doctor slotted in somewhere, that’s all. In the script to The Day of the Doctor, Matt’s Doctor was called the Eleventh, and David’s was called the Tenth, so the numbering stays exactly the same – and we call Peter Capaldi the Twelfth Doctor.”

So he's not bothered about Hurt to Ecclestone then?