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Four in a Bed :: New Series (Part 3)
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angelafisher
28-09-2015
Originally Posted by HumptyDumpy:
“You're a regular there then?”

No, seems like they're doing well enough without my patronage!!
anyonefortennis
28-09-2015
Originally Posted by HumptyDumpy:
“Ah, I see. I only have bath sheets so they are all towels to me Except for hand towels, those are just hand towels.”

You can get bath towels which are quite big and bath sheets which are huge.
hooter
28-09-2015
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis:
“Especially for Cambridge.”

agreed
HumptyDumpy
28-09-2015
Originally Posted by SolarSail:
“John is the Araldite Heir
Story Link in Daily Mail

Cambridge News

Johnny's a triplet!”

And he's only 26! I thought he was in his mid-30's at least!
TheGrumpWizard
28-09-2015
If you wrote those two as a pair of upper class twits for a tv programme they'd be rejected for you going too far. What a pair of total roasters.
nancy1975
28-09-2015
Originally Posted by rhumble:
“I always find naturists a little bit odd, i suppose i dont understand the appeal tbh”

Sunbathing and swimming naked is wonderful and wearing Lycra that burns your skin in a sauna is odd. Why are some British so closed minded.
Croctacus
28-09-2015
Originally Posted by 2shy2007:
“And there we have our game player. why on earth would one not want to stay there? he gave no reason.”

Cos hes an arse?
nancy1975
28-09-2015
Originally Posted by Tommo781:
“One of next week's places is the naturist hotel that Alex Polizzi went to in the Hotel Inspector. Yuk! Don't tell me that isn't a hugely niche market!”

It's no 1 on Trip Advisor on Birmingham and there are four million naturists in the UK and millions more who have gone to a nude beach on holiday. Why yuk? Why do the British have a problem with spas?
Tommo781
29-09-2015
Originally Posted by nancy1975:
“It's no 1 on Trip Advisor on Birmingham and there are four million naturists in the UK and millions more who have gone to a nude beach on holiday. Why yuk? Why do the British have a problem with spas?”

I have no problem with Spas!! What I have a problem with is that the contestants have been confronted with a naturist hotel with no prior warning. I am guessing they didn't know that might happen before they were told at dinner on the first night. If it was me, I wouldn't go. Not everyone finds it acceptable to be in a hotel with naked people.

And it certainly isn't No 1 in Birmingham on Trip Advisor. It is no 1 for SPECIALITY lodgings, which is far from the same thing.
anyonefortennis
29-09-2015
Originally Posted by Croctacus:
“Cos hes an arse?”

And we will see that arse today
nancy1975
29-09-2015
Originally Posted by Tommo781:
“I have no problem with Spas!! What I have a problem with is that the contestants have been confronted with a naturist hotel with no prior warning. I am guessing they didn't know that might happen before they were told at dinner on the first night. If it was me, I wouldn't go. Not everyone finds it acceptable to be in a hotel with naked people.

And it certainly isn't No 1 in Birmingham on Trip Advisor. It is no 1 for SPECIALITY lodgings, which is far from the same thing.”

No, it WAS No 1 of all hotels for a while. Then Trip Advisor decided to place it in the specialist category some time ago.

To your first point. And I do really not get this. The Hotel Inspector had a wealth of national press coverage at the time, not long ago, along with many follow up articles, these are professionals in the business who should keep up with that programme and other developments in the industry and I am honestly surprised that Tim was not recognised by any of them from the start. Either it is genuine (surprising) or they are brilliant actors. And I am afraid that cynically they were deliberately chosen to be the most prissy uptight types who would be 'shocked' and not join in, as other more laid back people I have seen on the programme would go with the flow and try things. I suppose it makes better tv. Sadly the spa will be unappreciated, as taking a sauna with swimwear on is like taking a bath with swimwear on.

They will not be in a hotel with 'naked people.' There are no other guests in the establishments the night they go anyway. Anyway, it's up to you what you wear in the hotel, and indeed the spa, though obviously most people do take advantage of the comparatively rare opportunity in Britain to sauna as they should be taken; in the way that is routine in Europe. There isn't anything complicated or sinister about it.

Also, there was a naturist b and b in a Spanish version. It's not the first time. Why should people in 2015 have such a problem with it?

I fully expect that Tim won't win, but there is no doubt how much his hotel is enjoyed by people judging by his reviews, and it's odds on, that his is the establishment that people will remember most, and a few would like to give a try.
Tommo781
29-09-2015
Originally Posted by nancy1975:
“No, it WAS No 1 of all hotels for a while. Then Trip Advisor decided to place it in the specialist category some time ago.

To your first point. And I do really not get this. The Hotel Inspector had a wealth of national press coverage at the time, not long ago, along with many follow up articles, these are professionals in the business who should keep up with that programme and other developments in the industry and I am honestly surprised that Tim was not recognised by any of them from the start. Either it is genuine (surprising) or they are brilliant actors. And I am afraid that cynically they were deliberately chosen to be the most prissy uptight types who would be 'shocked' and not join in, as other more laid back people I have seen on the programme would go with the flow and try things. I suppose it makes better tv. Sadly the spa will be unappreciated, as taking a sauna with swimwear on is like taking a bath with swimwear on.

They will not be in a hotel with 'naked people.' There are no other guests in the establishments the night they go anyway. Anyway, it's up to you what you wear in the hotel, and indeed the spa, though obviously most people do take advantage of the comparatively rare opportunity in Britain to sauna as they should be taken; in the way that is routine in Europe. There isn't anything complicated or sinister about it.

Also, there was a naturist b and b in a Spanish version. It's not the first time. Why should people in 2015 have such a problem with it?

I fully expect that Tim won't win, but there is no doubt how much his hotel is enjoyed by people judging by his reviews, and it's odds on, that his is the establishment that people will remember most, and a few would like to give a try.”

I do not intend to get into an argument with someone who cannot be wrong, and cannot see that other people may have a differing opinion to their own. I have much better things to do with my time.

However, I will challenge you 100% on the Clover being no 1 for Birmingham. I can categorically assure you that it never, ever was. You are wholly mistaken, although I appreciate you will not accept that you could be.
tuppencehapenny
29-09-2015
Originally Posted by Tommo781:
“I have no problem with Spas!! What I have a problem with is that the contestants have been confronted with a naturist hotel with no prior warning. I am guessing they didn't know that might happen before they were told at dinner on the first night. If it was me, I wouldn't go. Not everyone finds it acceptable to be in a hotel with naked people.

And it certainly isn't No 1 in Birmingham on Trip Advisor. It is no 1 for SPECIALITY lodgings, which is far from the same thing.”

I agree with you Tommo. The issue isn't that it's a naturist hotel, it's that they didn't know beforehand, and would probably not have chosen to go there. I can't see why they should have been expected to recognise Tim - and they obviously didn't.

Spas are popular so I'm not sure where our 'problem' is supposed to be. If they don't fancy the idea of taking their clothes off in public, that's their prerogative, surely.
MadBetty
29-09-2015
Originally Posted by rhumble:
“If its a self service breakfast, i wouldnt give it anymore than 5 tbh”

I don't mind serving myself because that way I know I will get what I want without having to wait. The difference for me being however the variety and quality of the breakfast items on offer, this place offered nice stuff. That said though, the only drawback for me with the serve-yourself option would be my stay coinciding with guests who behave like a plague of locusts at a buffet spread. Going by my own past experiences the British and the Spanish are the worst for such behaviour.
Tommo781
29-09-2015
Originally Posted by tuppencehapenny:
“I agree with you Tommo. The issue isn't that it's a naturist hotel, it's that they didn't know beforehand, and would probably not have chosen to go there. I can't see why they should have been expected to recognise Tim - and they obviously didn't.

Spas are popular so I'm not sure where our 'problem' is supposed to be. If they don't fancy the idea of taking their clothes off in public, that's their prerogative, surely.”

Thankyou Tuppencehapenny. The previous contributor also said that there would be no naked people, as no-one else would be staying. Yet Tim made it quite clear he will be naked. I would not want to be confronted by a naked proprietor, whether male or female.
nancy1975
29-09-2015
Originally Posted by Tommo781:
“Thankyou Tuppencehapenny. The previous contributor also said that there would be no naked people, as no-one else would be staying. Yet Tim made it quite clear he will be naked. I would not want to be confronted by a naked proprietor, whether male or female.”

Why is tolerance extended to everybody except naturists? He is in his own hotel. He abided by the dress code asked for previously. It would be absurd if he was clothed, as the idea is to demonstrate what your establishment is about! There is nothing confrontational about being naked in a naturist hotel.
nancy1975
29-09-2015
Originally Posted by Tommo781:
“I do not intend to get into an argument with someone who cannot be wrong, and cannot see that other people may have a differing opinion to their own. I have much better things to do with my time.

However, I will challenge you 100% on the Clover being no 1 for Birmingham. I can categorically assure you that it never, ever was. You are wholly mistaken, although I appreciate you will not accept that you could be.”

It was. I am on a phone at the moment but I am sure I remember Tim's post to that effect on the hotel website.
nancy1975
29-09-2015
Originally Posted by tuppencehapenny:
“I agree with you Tommo. The issue isn't that it's a naturist hotel, it's that they didn't know beforehand, and would probably not have chosen to go there. I can't see why they should have been expected to recognise Tim - and they obviously didn't.

Spas are popular so I'm not sure where our 'problem' is supposed to be. If they don't fancy the idea of taking their clothes off in public, that's their prerogative, surely.”

What's the difference between this and the naturist b and b in Spain? And many of the venues on the show is not necessarily where the contestants would choose to stay.
Tommo781
29-09-2015
Originally Posted by nancy1975:
“What's the difference between this and the naturist b and b in Spain? And many of the venues on the show is not necessarily where the contestants would choose to stay.”

Calm down dear!
Firespire
29-09-2015
Originally Posted by Tommo781:
“However, I will challenge you 100% on the Clover being no 1 for Birmingham. I can categorically assure you that it never, ever was. You are wholly mistaken, although I appreciate you will not accept that you could be.”

I remember the venue on the Hotel Inspector and I was surprised to see it was high on TripAdvisor for hotels. Hits on Google mentioning it at one time being top hotel on Tripadvisor before a reorganisation on the site eg -
https://bluerating.wordpress.com/201...el-clover-spa/ https://www.bn.org.uk/articles.php/_...the-hotel-r167

Also some hits on Google mentioning it was no 2 in Birmingham hotels when it appeared on Hotel Inspector, so it might have moved up and down.
I wouldn't be surprised if it could hit the top spot if it was still in hotels because it does achieve the full 5 TripAdvisor "bubbles" and the hotels in that spot now do not.
tuppencehapenny
29-09-2015
Originally Posted by nancy1975:
“What's the difference between this and the naturist b and b in Spain? And many of the venues on the show is not necessarily where the contestants would choose to stay.”

I can't comment on the Spain venue as I didn't see it, but I can't see how that's relevant here.

Like it or not, a lot of people don't want to be naked or see other naked people in public. That's their choice. Tim can of course go naked in his own place, and why not, but others obviously don't want to.
nancy1975
29-09-2015
Originally Posted by tuppencehapenny:
“I can't comment on the Spain venue as I didn't see it, but I can't see how that's relevant here.

Like it or not, a lot of people don't want to be naked or see other naked people in public. That's their choice. Tim can of course go naked in his own place, and why not, but others obviously don't want to.”

So I was not 'wrong' on the rating. Spain is relevant because Clover is not the first naturist place featured. Also Tim is not imposing any dress code, unlike somebody who insists on black tie. The other contestants have the choice to remain clothed, which predictably they will. As for not wanting to see someone naked, well there are many activities set up by the owners on the show that the others don't want to do or like...but it's the format.
Shrike
29-09-2015
Originally Posted by nancy1975:
“So I was not 'wrong' on the rating. Spain is relevant because Clover is not the first naturist place featured. Also Tim is not imposing any dress code, unlike somebody who insists on black tie. The other contestants have the choice to remain clothed, which predictably they will. As for not wanting to see someone naked, well there are many activities set up by the owners on the show that the others don't want to do..”

I'm pretty sure there were no naked bodies around for the Spanish episode. It was just mentioned that they were naturist friendly.
As for you're last point - frequently owners have dipped out of the activity if they didn't want to take part.
nancy1975
29-09-2015
It's not really the point on there being nakedness. Tim obviously has to show the spa facilities and if the others are not willing to follow the accepted dress code then he has to do so himself. Is honesty such a bad thing? He has invested a great deal of money in what at the time could have seemed a risky venture.
MadBetty
29-09-2015
Originally Posted by nancy1975:
“So I was not 'wrong' on the rating. Spain is relevant because Clover is not the first naturist place featured. Also Tim is not imposing any dress code, unlike somebody who insists on black tie. The other contestants have the choice to remain clothed, which predictably they will. As for not wanting to see someone naked, well there are many activities set up by the owners on the show that the others don't want to do..”

The B&B in Spain run by the two guys was not strictly a naturist establishment, although as they said , 'clothing is optional'
I have no objection to nudity in itself but I do think it is more hygienic in social settings for certain 'bits' to be 'encased'.

I am wondering if the host will answer the door au natural
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