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This episode will become known for the sausages...undercooked and late-arriving sausages
![]() Lucy didn't make anywhere near the fuss over her raw banger that Pauline wanted to make over hers that arrived on a plate. About the nonsense regarding the stool; you can be certain Jenny does not sit down at a dressing table at home to put her slap on, most of us women stand up at the bathroom mirror. But just because there was a dressing table in their room she pointedly wanted to sit at it, like it was some kind of novelty treat for her and there being no stool ruined the whole stay for her. I bet if there'd been a guest security safe in the room she'd have wanted to put her comb in it just for the novelty of using it. At the 'castle' - I'd have objected at Mike sitting in the same room at breakfast time, he was there to watch and listen to the others, no other reason. There was something in doing that which really bugged me. I completely agree about Mike, whether he was there to listen in or not. Is there really nowhere else he can eat his breakfast? I don't want to eat breakfast with my host, just as I don't want to eat dinner with the owner of a restaurant! |
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Mike's nasty turn did not surprise me at all, he's one of those who goes around convinced he's better than everyone else and when faced with the slightest criticism the mask slips. He's not a man's man, he's not a ladies man, he's a creep.
Pauline turned out to be the most irritating for me. Still banging on about that bloody sausage! truth is she wanted to carry on complaining about it while it went cold and Natasha robbed her of the chance to give the full gripe. I'd have walked out too - she was not a real guest anyway, she was a fellow contestant out to score points. In Pauline's place I might have walked out myself! Tasha was extremely rude, but then her manners throughout the week have been appalling. She didn't even want to listen to Pauline on payment day and has no idea what the real issue was. She still thinks it's about the sausage! |
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I thought those were cheap beef sausages as well. I made that mistake once. Never again.
She shovels food into her mouth. I am usually not the type to nice how others eat, unless they spit their food out or something, but her table manners actually made me gag. I couldn't have eaten my own meal with her at the table.
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I'm playing catch up from yesterday. Quote:
Did he even greet the others when they came down for breakfast, or did he just sit there silently?
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But the payment isn't supposed to be about underpaying or overpaying the asking price, it should be about how much people think the stay is worth...
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Bath Lodge is a Hotel so shouldn't be directly compared to a B&B. But was it worth £200 a night? I doubt it myself.
... a decent host shouldn't use that as a Basil Fawlty style fob off "well no-one has ever complained before!" From looking on the BLC website (very poor quality and out of date appearance) and watching the programme, I wouldn't have paid more than about £125-£140 for the Lodge. It certainly didn't come across as particularly luxurious to me and the hot tub area looked as positively amateur as the cheap chiffon bed drapes. I haven't had a bathroom as ropey looking as one of the ones we saw since we bought a doer-upper semi in 1982 and we soon ripped that out. I certainly expect a reasonable flow of water, the owners should install a pump if necessary, not fob people off with 'it's an old building' I definitely expect chrome fittings to be clean and polished properly as well, very slack not to check that. To be fair though, Pauline and Claire really seemed to like their stay. Oh and I always sit at my dressing table to do my hair and makeup, as do the other females in my family, so I don't want to go away to stand up at the washbasin and do it - not unless I'm in a budget place. I take the point about the chair not fitting and the lighting didn't look particularly good there either. My answer to people not complaining before would always be 'maybe they've told their friends instead of telling you' ![]() For someone to listen to a constructive report and dismiss it so firmly would not encourage me to book there. Pauline did much better with her response to the bed which was found to be uncomfortable. Quote:
I think the "fuss" was less about the sausage than about the appalling rudeness displayed by Tash - walking out of the room when someone's speaking to you (especially when that someone's a customer) is no way to behave in the hospitality industry.
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...In Pauline's place I might have walked out myself! Tasha was extremely rude, but then her manners throughout the week have been appalling. She didn't even want to listen to Pauline on payment day and has no idea what the real issue was. She still thinks it's about the sausage!
She dumped the plate with the sausage down calling Pauline 'Hun' and stalked off while Pauline was still speaking. Downright rude and totally unacceptable. People in service industries are tested all the time and that would've been a golden opportunity to show off her people skills. That reminds me, speaking of rudeness and of people skills, I'd cut Karen some slack but after her snide remark about servitude I withdraw that understanding altogether. How dare she look down her nose at people who staff their own establishments. She clearly didn't realize that her previous comments made the show, the bit where she spoke about doing the cooking because when you start and can't afford staff you have to pitch in. Mike's outburst at the end was shockingly unpleasant. Maybe it was addressed, but the way it was edited left no doubt as to the impression the crew wanted to leave with the viewer. If anyone was game playing it was Mike and Karen, who underpaid everyone. Tash and Mike also underpaid everyone, but I think by less than M & K. Pauline and Claire only withheld £3 (Wortwell Hall Barn) for the breakfast service and undercooked sausage, but said they'd have paid in full if not for that. The scores were close in the end. 86% for the Lodge. 88% for Wharfe. 93% the Barn and 94% Old Lodge. I'd rather Wharfe House than the Lodge but both are on noisy roads and I'd rather the Barn than the other Lodge. I'd like the quiet location, countryside and proximity to the coast. It was a funny week, but it did make me smile to see Karen and Mike being driven around in that old Roller as though they were something special Some things just don't need to be articulated to tell you all you need to know.
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But the payment isn't supposed to be about underpaying or overpaying the asking price, it should be about how much people think the stay is worth. Ideally, participants shouldn't even know the room price, but obviously they could find out if they wanted to.
On that basis, is there any ordinary B&B, anywhere in the UK, worth more than about £80 a night? and while it may have been a "castle", it's still really an ordinary B&B. So I think the amount they paid (was it £120?) was actually very generous. Good on Clive for seeing through the smoke and mirrors of the gatehouse place, not being a sheep and bringing an element of realism into matters. |
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I completely agree about Mike, whether he was there to listen in or not. Is there really nowhere else he can eat his breakfast? I don't want to eat breakfast with my host, just as I don't want to eat dinner with the owner of a restaurant!
![]() I think the producers must try their damnest to twist arms over breakfast cooking in the Hotel type places where the contestants obviously have professional staff to cook. I'm surprised "non servile" Karen was persuaded to don her pinny at all. But in the end it gave a poor impression of their breakfast service which is very misleading as she clearly would never be in the kitchen. |
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For someone with an astonishingly high opinion of his own intellect, Mike showed himself to be extremely dim by being so thoroughly unpleasant. All very well to rant at anyone on Trip Advisor who dared to criticise their place, to call them 'psychotic liars' and insult their appearance, but to be this nasty and personal on TV is a different matter altogether. Now the viewers have seen for themselves the extent of their nastiness, and laughed at Karen's posh accent slipping regularly. They've come out of this so badly, and the couples who sucked up to them seemed so feeble. It's ironic that quiet Jenny and Clive who were the target of their most vicious comments emerged ahead of them in every way.
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A few weeks ago I thought contestants were trying a new game plan. They'd obviously realised that winning a plaque was useless, if in the process you showed yourself to be greedy, lazy, sarcastic etc. I seem to recall that every contestant was extremely nice to everyone else, and all overpaid each other.
However, it seems some people just don't learn that. |
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To throw something irrelevant into the mix, didn't the snotty Karen own more than one jacket? She had that black cut out number on with just about everything. It was actually very nice and stylish, but for someone so superior I would have expected a different designer number every day.
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Did he even greet the others when they came down for breakfast, or did he just sit there silently?
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...However, it seems some people just don't learn that.
It also never fails to amaze me how people who use a website as a business tool neglect to monitor and update it. Poor punctuation, grammar, broken links and bad quality images are everywhere and given a very bad impression. Likewise, thinking about the impression you might make on a programme such as 4iaB. Not everyone's seen it or realizes how it usually pans out and there are a high number of new businesses featured because of how people are scouted or invited to appear. It shouldn't be rocket science to work out though, should it. I'd think the plaque is worthless. It'd be nice to think your fellow hosts feel you give a good experience and good value for money, but overall showing the world you're decent people who offer a great product is a much better outcome than any short term victory over complete strangers. "We're so superior to everyone in every way" is never going to cut it and the massive irony is that people who actually do come from quality would never be so crass as to declare so. Quite obviously it should speak for itself
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I think the "fuss" was less about the sausage than about the appalling rudeness displayed by Tash - walking out of the room when someone's speaking to you (especially when that someone's a customer) is no way to behave in the hospitality industry.
I completely agree about Mike, whether he was there to listen in or not. Is there really nowhere else he can eat his breakfast? I don't want to eat breakfast with my host, just as I don't want to eat dinner with the owner of a restaurant! Tash sorted the sausage, Pauline should have got on with eating it. Note how Clive handled the raw sausage issue with Claire - he sorted the problem, she thanked him and started eating. No stringing out a whinge by Claire as Pauline tried to do with Tash. So what if it was on a plate on its own...at least tash didnt toss it to her from the kitchen door. |
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To throw something irrelevant into the mix, didn't the snotty Karen own more than one jacket? She had that black cut out number on with just about everything. It was actually very nice and stylish, but for someone so superior I would have expected a different designer number every day.
![]() ![]() ![]() She did cling on to that one little handbag for dear life though. That was odd. Even when being interviewed in a piece to camera. It reminded me of someone who only has one decent piece and needs to thrust it in people's faces all the time to try and make a point. We seem to be making more and more style remarks on here. Last week the knitted cardigans, this week Natasha's nails, Mike's hair and glasses and now Karen's appearance too. Our minds are obviously wandering
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In Pauline's place I might have walked out myself! Tasha was extremely rude, but then her manners throughout the week have been appalling. She didn't even want to listen to Pauline on payment day and has no idea what the real issue was. She still thinks it's about the sausage! |
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The comment by Tash on payment day was so teenage strop "conversation over, I'm not saying any more!". Oh dear. Yes Pauline went on a bit about the sausage but in the first place she was trying to make Tash deal with her respectfully as a good host should, but the more Tash did not the more annoyed Pauline became. What struck me though about stroppy don't care Tash, was that she seemed to be a little too much "up the bottoms" of the posh pair.
![]() She married 'up' but forgot to take her attitude and behaviour with her. |
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I'm astounded that people think Pauline was the one in the wrong when Natasha was so rude during service.
There were two other complaints by Pauline and Claire. The undercooked sausage and the broken egg. Both of those complaints were fully justified. I said at the time that the broken egg shouldn't ever have been served, let alone at the most expensive establishment. As I said up above, they were the couple who deducted the least money out of all of them, a mere £3 across the whole week. I thought they were fair and any comments they made were deserved. Natasha, at the end, came across a bit like the Catherine Tate teenage Lauren character. Again, she was utterly out of her depth in all respects and that's why she was enthralled by Karen and Mike. It'll take a while before I forget the image of her hunched over her plate shovelling food in to her mouth as though a spade would've been preferable to a fork. Mike needs to offer her a few pointers. |
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I may be wrong Betty but I think they said Tash and Mike are partners, as in romantic partners, rather than married?
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I've been away for a few days and have come back to about 20 pages of comments which I've not had a chance to read yet. Sorry! Has anyone mentioned that Mike looks and speaks like Peter Sellars?
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I'm astounded that people think Pauline was the one in the wrong when Natasha was so rude during service.
There were two other complaints by Pauline and Claire. The undercooked sausage and the broken egg. Both of those complaints were fully justified. I said at the time that the broken egg shouldn't ever have been served, let alone at the most expensive establishment. As I said up above, they were the couple who deducted the least money out of all of them, a mere £3 across the whole week. I thought they were fair and any comments they made were deserved. Natasha, at the end, came across a bit like the Catherine Tate teenage Lauren character. Again, she was utterly out of her depth in all respects and that's why she was enthralled by Karen and Mike. It'll take a while before I forget the image of her hunched over her plate shovelling food in to her mouth as though a spade would've been preferable to a fork. Mike needs to offer her a few pointers. *flashbacks*I agree with everything you say about Natasha and I too find it amazing that anyone thinks she handled sausage-gate correctly. Let's not talk about her table manners any more... |
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I'm astounded that people think Pauline was the one in the wrong when Natasha was so rude during service.
There were two other complaints by Pauline and Claire. The undercooked sausage and the broken egg. Both of those complaints were fully justified. I said at the time that the broken egg shouldn't ever have been served, let alone at the most expensive establishment. As I said up above, they were the couple who deducted the least money out of all of them, a mere £3 across the whole week. I thought they were fair and any comments they made were deserved. Natasha, at the end, came across a bit like the Catherine Tate teenage Lauren character. Again, she was utterly out of her depth in all respects and that's why she was enthralled by Karen and Mike. It'll take a while before I forget the image of her hunched over her plate shovelling food in to her mouth as though a spade would've been preferable to a fork. Mike needs to offer her a few pointers. ![]() If I'd been Pauline I'd have been more interested in starting on the food than complaining about it. |
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Hmm, I doubt Tash would have done that with a bona fide guest. Pauline wanted to argue the trivial point of Tash not bringing the sausage with the rest of the breakfast, but she got the sausage and she got it as soon as it was mentioned and she got it efficiently. She should have shut up after that and started eating, not continued to bemoan the point that Tash had forgotten it first time round. I think I'd have brought such a pointless complaint to a close by saying 'there you go, hope you enjoy, bye now!' myself.
Tash sorted the sausage, Pauline should have got on with eating it. Note how Clive handled the raw sausage issue with Claire - he sorted the problem, she thanked him and started eating. No stringing out a whinge by Claire as Pauline tried to do with Tash. So what if it was on a plate on its own...at least tash didnt toss it to her from the kitchen door. |
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I've been away for a few days and have come back to about 20 pages of comments which I've not had a chance to read yet. Sorry! Has anyone mentioned that Mike looks and speaks like Peter Sellars?
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I've been away for a few days and have come back to about 20 pages of comments which I've not had a chance to read yet. Sorry! Has anyone mentioned that Mike looks and speaks like Peter Sellars?
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Oh please!
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As far as I can see I'm the only one here who is critical of Pauline in that situation...
Betty, I really do feel it was edited in a confrontational way and there was a lot more to it than we saw, but, whatever, we viewed what they showed and yes, the main point is that the contestants should receive the kind of service that bonefide guests receive and it could have been dealt with in a diplomatic manner regardless of private thoughts. If anyone ever feels that guests are beyond in their requests then the place to let rip is in private. Edit Five There are two Mikes and two Lodges - confusing Mike and Karen from Castle Lodge near Bath Mike and Natasha (Tash) from The Old Lodge, Gosport |
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Oh please!
*flashbacks*I agree with everything you say about Natasha and I too find it amazing that anyone thinks she handled sausage-gate correctly. Let's not talk about her table manners any more... |
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Yes, I do take your point about that, but I think Pauline was initially annoyed by the fact that Tash lied. She could easily have said - "oops forgot the sausage" and that would have been it. Instead she came out with that sarky line about it always being served separately and, if that were indeed the case, it should have come out with the other plate as Pauline said.
Pauline never even notice her sausage was missing her friend told her. I am not sure if the sausage had been forgotten or it was going to come out on a seperate plate. Imo .. that is such an odd breakfast. |
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I couldn't have eaten my own meal with her at the table.


*flashbacks*
