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The Ratings Thread (Part 55)
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fmradiotuner1
16-11-2013
So it seems CIN has still got a few years left or more as that is an OK rating.
dave01
16-11-2013
Have ITV got anything they could use as a spoiler to the launch of The Voice? A Harry Potter film premiere or Toy Story 3 maybe. Or is it almost certain they'll be pitting splash against it? I can't see Splash coming off too well to be honest, it would likely be down year-on-year even without The Voice opposite it.

Seems strange not having any Eastenders post on a Saturday. That reminds me, it has done well this past week, the 7.8m on Tuesday was a notable improvement.
seansnotmyname@
16-11-2013
Of course X-Factor using the Phillipines is a cynical marketing ploy.

Yet as cynical marketing ploys go it's quite a nice one, and will be raising money for a great cause, so to complain seems a bit churlish. Kevin O'Sullivan is a ghastly little man BTW.
yorkie100
16-11-2013
Originally Posted by xeo:
“ There are things more important than TV ratings, you know.”

There are no more important things than ratings to Cowell. I see this as a cynical attempt to boost his show. SYCO have enough money and could just donate whatever they want without linking it to their show or the number of votes. Its tawdry IMO.
j10cool10
16-11-2013
Originally Posted by welshfoxy:
“Why not full cost of the votes, why just 'minimum'?”

Probably because ITV still have overheads to pay for the vote/downloads, but this is probably all of their profit.

Bearing in mind "a minimum of 50p" will be donated. Compared to only a minimum of 20p for the Official Children In Need single by Ellie Goulding.
yorkie100
16-11-2013
Originally Posted by fmradiotuner1:
“So it seems CIN has still got a few years left or more as that is an OK rating.”

Whether the show is entertaining or not people seem to like it as a live experience - cant see it ever ending.
Zac Quinn
16-11-2013
Great rating for Children in Need! Far better than I expected - and the football was slightly over my prediction too. Thank goodness I'm not playing the RPG this semester
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“A few more ratings from yesterday....

BBC1
Pointless - 4.5m”

Wow!
Originally Posted by seansnotmyname@:
“4.5 for Pointless, worst episode ever IMHO”

I thought the opposite But then I'm a big McFly fan so maybe I'm biased
Originally Posted by dave01:
“Have ITV got anything they could use as a spoiler to the launch of The Voice? A Harry Potter film premiere or Toy Story 3 maybe. Or is it almost certain they'll be pitting splash against it? I can't see Splash coming off too well to be honest”

ITV won't really care how Splash does. Coming just after Christmas they make basically no money off advertising in early January when compared to a month earlier. In fact part of me always suspects they'd rather be off air until about mid-February.. It's the same as the music charts - absolutely nothing of note is ever released for the first six weeks of the new year, because nobody has any money left to buy it.
Last Request
16-11-2013
If The Voice doesn't get strictly like ratings in January the disappointment will send shockwaves across bbc. Always loses viewers after the gimmicky spinning chairs format same will hopefully happen again this time.
xeo
16-11-2013
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“There are no more important things than ratings to Cowell. I see this as a cynical attempt to boost his show. SYCO have enough money and could just donate whatever they want without linking it to their show or the number of votes. Its tawdry IMO.”

I highly doubt this will have any effect on ratings, if people wanted to donate then they could go about it another way rather than go through the effort of watching an entire show waiting for the phone lines to open. Like I said there are thousands who vote every week so this is a good opportunity to get money to the Philippines that wouldn't have went there otherwise.

I think anyone who is willing to donate a % of their profits to charity deserves to be applauded.
H of De Vil
16-11-2013
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“There are no more important things than ratings to Cowell. I see this as a cynical attempt to boost his show. SYCO have enough money and could just donate whatever they want without linking it to their show or the number of votes. Its tawdry IMO.”

But it gives people the intensive and reason to download the songs.

Even if it is to boost XF (which i don't see how it will) its a good way to do it, whilst saving lives with the money raised.
cylon6
16-11-2013
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“A few more ratings from yesterday....

BBC1
Pointless - 4.5m
TOS - 5.6m
10 O'Clock News - 5.5m

BBC 2
Cold War, Hot Jets - 1m
Children in Need (10pm - 10.30pm) - 4.2m

ITV
Paul O'Grady - 2.3m (2.4m with +1)
Emmerdale - 6.2m (6.4m)
News - 1.3m

C4
Agents of SHIELD - 1.1m (1.3m)
8/10 Cats - 800k (1m)
Man Down - 600k (700k)

C5
Eddie Stobart - 800k (900k)
On Benefits & Proud - 900k (1m)”

Thanks Bushmills!

Some more Children In Need stats:

The 10pm section on BBC2:
"@chiefbrody1984: 4.2m/20.6% - highest BBC2 segment numbers since 2008 by my calculation..."

The 10.30pm section:
"@chiefbrody1984: 3.2m (37.5%) average, peak at 5.9m."
cylon6
16-11-2013
Originally Posted by fmradiotuner1:
“So it seems CIN has still got a few years left or more as that is an OK rating.”

Children In Need ratings in recent times have been around the 9m mark. Last year was post Savile and I don't think viewers wanted as much to do with it. Very low key promotion too probably for the same reason.

The 2011 rating was great, against Corrie and I'm A Celeb but still got 10m.
Zac Quinn
16-11-2013
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Thanks Bushmills!

Some more Children In Need stats:

The 10.30pm section:
"@chiefbrody1984: 3.2m (37.5%) average, peak at 5.9m."”

It averaged 3.2m when finishing in the early hours of the morning?! That's huge!! I wonder what the peak was, McBusted?
NeilVW
16-11-2013
Friday 15th November 2013

BBC One
13:45 - Doctors: 1.49m (22.1%)
17:15 - Pointless: 4.5m
19:00 - The One Show - Children in Need Special: 5.6m
19:30 - Children in Need: 9.75m (40.6%)
* up +1.69m and +7.9 share points year-on-year
* 5-minute peak: 10.73m (43.9%) at 20:55
* 15-minute peak: 10.42m

* previous CIN ratings here
22:00-22:25 - BBC News: 5.47m
* national only
22:40-26:00 - Children in Need: 3.10m (37.8%)
* finished at 26:02

BBC Two
21:00 - Cold War, Hot Jets: 1.0m
22:00-22:35 - Children in Need: 4.22m (20.6%)
* highest-rated BBC Two CIN segment since 2008

ITV
17:00 - The Paul O'Grady Show - 2.3m# / 2.4m#
19:00 - Emmerdale: 6.47m (31.5%) / 6.63m (32.3%)
19:30 - International Football Live: 4.23m (17.7%) / 4.33m (18.1%)
* England v Chile friendly
* 15-minute peak: 4.57m exc +1 at 20:30
22:15 -22:50 - ITV News: 1.3m#

Channel 4
18:30 - Hollyoaks: 974k (5.1%)
20:05 - Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: 1.20m (4.8%) / 1.37m (5.5%)
21:00 - Eight out of Ten Cats: 0.8m / 1.0m
21:30 - Man Down: 0.6m / 0.7m
22:05 - Alan Carr: Chatty Man: 1.07m / 1.28m

Channel 5
13:15 - Home and Away: 306k (4.6%)
13:45 - Neighbours: 642k (9.5%)
17:30 - Neighbours: 870k (5.3%)
18:00 - Home and Away: 615k (3.4%)
20:00 - Stobart: Trucks, Trains and Planes: 0.8m# / 0.9m#
21:00 - On Benefits and Proud (r): 910k / 1.02m
22:00-23:35 - FILM: Rambo (2008): 958k (5.7%) / 1.04m (6.2%)

E4
19:00 - Hollyoaks: 411k (2.0%) / 561k (2.7%)

5*
18:30 - Home and Away: 445k (2.3%)

# indicates a full-slot rating on a main channel where the programme did not run to time and therefore tape-checking would make a difference. Other channels are never tape-checked
Sources: DS (1, 2), UK TV Ratings, Ed Brody, Bushmills
RobbieSykes123
16-11-2013
Record ratings for Pointless and TOS a trifling 600k behind EmFm, whose ratings continue to recede.

Good night for BBC1 with large number of viewers sampling special editions of EE, Tate, DW and CTM. Good way of promoting forthcoming BBC1 offerings.

Shameless of Cowell and ITV to use the Philippines tragedy to atteact back lost viewers.

NeilVW
16-11-2013
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“It averaged 3.2m when finishing in the early hours of the morning?! That's huge!! I wonder what the peak was, McBusted? ”

I think Ed Brody's numbers are full-slot: his average for the post-news segment is 3.2m/37.5% (presumably 22:35-26:00 and therefore including the last two minutes of local news/weather), whereas DS (tape-checked from 22:40) has 3.1m/37.8% - a slightly lower audience but a slightly higher share as you would expect.

So I think that 5.9m peak might be for 22:35-22:40, boosted by BBC-Two-to-BBC-One switching at 22:37 when coverage ended on Two.
NeilVW
16-11-2013
Good ratings for Channel 5's post-watershed alternatives: over a million including +1 for both the On Benefits repeat (which beat Channel 4 across the hour) and a film repeat. Stobart also doing pretty well against tough competition.

Bushmills, do you have the BBC One 18:00 and 18:30 news, the post-news football highlights on ITV, and Chris Tarrant's fishing show on Channel 5 at 19:00 please?
Glenn A
16-11-2013
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Record ratings for Pointless and TOS a trifling 600k behind EmFm, whose ratings continue to recede.

Good night for BBC1 with large number of viewers sampling special editions of EE, Tate, DW and CTM. Good way of promoting forthcoming BBC1 offerings.

Shameless of Cowell and ITV to use the Philippines tragedy to atteact back lost viewers.

”

Maybe TOS was about CIN, which explains the high rating, Robbie. Emmerdale did well in its slot, but it will always be the third soap.
RobbieSykes123
16-11-2013
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“I think Ed Brody's numbers are full-slot: his average for the post-news segment is 3.2m/37.5% (presumably 22:35-26:00 and therefore including the last two minutes of local news/weather), whereas DS (tape-checked from 22:40) has 3.1m/37.8% - a slightly lower audience but a slightly higher share as you would expect.

So I think that 5.9m peak might be for 22:35-22:40, boosted by BBC Two to BBC One switching at 22:37 when coverage ended on Two.”

I'm sure 10.35 was the highpoint and then constantly drifted as folk went to bed. Always the same with CIN and CR.

Usually the post news peak is over 7m so it does suggest the lack of Corrie and Celebrity helped mask a further drop off in peak interest.

Really surprised at the parity between England average and peak. Thought it would have peaked much higher than 4.5m
tobi
16-11-2013
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Record ratings for Pointless and TOS a trifling 600k behind EmFm, whose ratings continue to recede.

Good night for BBC1 with large number of viewers sampling special editions of EE, Tate, DW and CTM. Good way of promoting forthcoming BBC1 offerings.

Shameless of Cowell and ITV to use the Philippines tragedy to atteact back lost viewers.

”

The one show has had better ratings so it is not record breaking. Besides that Shane Richie ran the show and it was only because it was a children in need special. Emmerdale held up just fine. It is usually over 2 million ahead for the rest of the year. No threat there but a good effort by the BBC to make the one show relevant. It was in the low 4 million mark the reat of the week even with the rickshaw challenge
cylon6
16-11-2013
It's a shame we don't get to see BBC2's weekday ratings in the 6pm hour. It takes Two must be rating well and Eggheads looks like it has had a small boost recently.
NeilVW
16-11-2013
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Record ratings for Pointless and TOS a trifling 600k behind EmFm, whose ratings continue to recede.”

6.2m for Emmerdale was for the full slot; tape-checked it was 6.47m (see round-up).

Quote:
“Good night for BBC1 with large number of viewers sampling special editions of EE, Tate, DW and CTM. Good way of promoting forthcoming BBC1 offerings.”

Not so sure sampling Tate's Nan will have helped: she was awful. She will hopefully be a lot funnier at Christmas when she can swear. (At what time can you swear on Christmas night?)

Originally Posted by tobi:
“The one show has had better ratings so it is not record breaking.”

Robbie didn't say it was a record for The One Show. A comma might have made it more clear
C14E
16-11-2013
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“This is Kevin O'Sullivan's thoughts about it:

Kevin O'Sullivan ‏@TVKev 1h
Remember, if you don't vote in The X Factor tonight children in The Philippines will die. Using a natural disaster to plug a TV show. Nice... It's an attempt to boost the rubbish ratings and to get more people to vote. Very little to do with the Philippines...I guess the way Cowell sees the tragedy of The Philippines is it's an ill wind that blows nobody any good. An opportunity seized...Don't fall for this nasty little ploy.”

On the morning after the BBC ride a charity wave to a 9m average you look even more hypocritical than usual Samuel.

O'Sullivan is a truly odious individual. I doubt votes or downloads will be notably higher than last week, let alone viewing figures (there's no plausible reason why they would rise because of this) but it makes some money for the DEC appeal.

More important, it raises awareness to 9 million people and keeps the appeal in the public eye a bit longer.

@SimonCowell earlier...

Quote:
“Tonight @thexfactor has backed The Sun's campaign for DEC Philippines Appeal & we are donating profits from votes & downloads to @decappeal

They desperately need our help. Huge thanks to @thexfactor team and to ITV for making this happen

For those of you watching "another" show you can help the Philippines Typhoon Appeal too. Text DEC to 70000 to donate £5 to the @decappeal”

tobi
16-11-2013
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“6.2m for Emmerdale was for the full slot; tape-checked it was 6.47m (see round-up).



Not so sure sampling Tate's Nan will have helped: she was awful. She will hopefully be a lot funnier at Christmas when she can swear. (At what time can you swear on Christmas night?)



Robbie didn't say it was a record for The One Show. A comma might have made it more clear ”

Oh yeah. I read it wrong. Good for pointless
Glenn A
16-11-2013
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“There are no more important things than ratings to Cowell. I see this as a cynical attempt to boost his show. SYCO have enough money and could just donate whatever they want without linking it to their show or the number of votes. Its tawdry IMO.”

Money is equally important to him. Remember ITV are having to fork out £ 150 million over the next three years for TXF and BGT. This is a complete rip off, especially as TXF is in decline now and BGT isn't getting any bigger, and no doubt we'll get even more YBF repeats to pay for this.
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