He is treating her as if she had 16 years dance training, which she has

What? She's only 29 now, so are you counting from when she was 3?

Or even 13 ha ha !!

Natalie did well but tonight's performance did leave me a bit cold to be honest. For me, she seemed to have lost a bit of confidence and she didn't flow through the dance like she can. No way she was better than Susannah or abbey. I wonder if the judges marked her high as a confidence boost knowing she'd had a hard week ?

As far as I can tell, there are basically two kinds of Charleston: you've got your cool, sophisticated flapper dance, all laid-back and down-played, Josephine Baker in a bad mood kind of Charleston; or you've got your Bugsy Malone, custard-pie in yer gob Charleston, all larky and playing bongos on your bum while gurning wildly (Ola Jordan, I'm looking at you).

The only Charleston that could have competed with Susannah and Kevin's gloriously OTT Paso would have been the latter sort and, unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your viewpoint), Artem is incapable of choreographing that kind of Charleston.

Poor Natalie. She's damned if you does and damned if she doesn't, with the same posters who criticised her good dancing because SHE IS A DIRTY RINGAH now criticising her because they think she didn't do such a great dance. Heigh-ho.

No, she stopped when she was 19.

I thought it was great & I don't like Charlestons, and no I didn't notice.

Personally I didn't think the Paso was that amazing - well I thought Susannah was amazing - but Kevin's not that good a dancer & he lacks stage presence which was really noticeable in such a big venue. Susannah has bucket loads so she really powered the dance.

I wonder if Natalie is trying too hard & its stopping a more natural flow which would have suited the Charleston in particular.

Are you sheeting me?! You are too funny!!!

Natalie is an actress. That is how she earns her living. She is not a pro dancer.
She's had some training and so has good footwork, rhythm etc.
But she does not have the stamina and flexibility of a pro dancer. Plus I think she is anxious because of her back problem.
But Artem expects her to showcase HIM to HIS standard and I don't think that is right....and it showed tonight.
I still think he pushed her too far with the jive last week hence the exhaustion. But that is only my opinion and I don't expect others to share it.

Ah - so according to other threads and comments she is not only faking a back injury but the general public don't like her (not sure from where her detractors get that) but now the audience don't like her.

Let's see what happens on the results show tomorrow.

The Will I Am song was a bad choice of music. Although singers and dancers seem to like performing it because it's a bit different, the GBP don't like it.
In The Voice, Will I Am chose it for his act, Leah, to sing in the final, and surprise, surprise she lost, despite being favourite.
Maybe it's me but I thought that their Charleston looked better in training. Very surprised that Natalie did that back bend.

I think they got overshadowed by Susanna.

Exactly. Nat. to WIN despite the haters.

yes i love the dWTS one

Yes, that could be it (already thought before that this dance would not suit her serious approach to things).

It is funny though how there are all kinds of excuses being sought as to why this dance was not so popular (instead of asking if the dance itself perhaps just wasn't that great).

I second that!

Because people can't stand a good dancer on a dancing show.

That, and Julien went a couple of weeks ago.

The atmosphere was just flat after Suzanna's dance, that's all. They should have switched the running order, I can see why they didn't because Suzanna's gone last a few times and Natalie only once but there's been some very odd choices with the running order this year, a lot of the final dances have been very flat, like Sophie's cha cha.

Why wait? Look on the spoiler thread...

Why do people who say they don't like her get accused of 'hating' her?

I don't particularly like her, but I can appreciate she's a good dancer. I definitely don't hate her. Hate is a very strong word, there are very few people in real life I hate. I don't feel strongly enough about her to hate her.

Why can't we have a difference of opinion without being branded so harshly?

She's so delicate that the director requested only a gentle clap, so as to avoid a perforated eardrum and further tears.

For me, her dance was just underwhelming, it lacked any real atmosphere and I had expected much more from them.. So I can understand the audience being underwhelmed as well.

Was it worth three tens and a nine? Well, three nines and an eight maybe, or ev en our nines.

Dance training can start at this young age. My own daughter was this age and she continued to dance until she was in her 20s covering all dance types except Ballroom which she is looking at taking up now.

The advantage of dancing for a number of years is that they find it very easy to pick up routines - my daughter can watch a routine a couple of times on TV and then do it - I find it amazing as I cannot remember a few steps!
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It lacked energy, which is perhaps not surprising given Natalie's circumstances. She wasn't firing on all cylinders and quite possibly might not do so again if she really daren't trust her back and/or the possible consequences of further treatment to keep her going in the competition.

It was the best danced routine of the night, but it wasn't the best dance - that was Susanna's. With knobs on.....