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Old 16-11-2013, 21:04
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She seems so miserable this week!

She's so up and down week on week, almost as though she is bipolar!
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Old 16-11-2013, 21:05
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Just because she's giving honest critique doesn't mean she's bipolar. The other judges are far too positive for my liking...:yawn:
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Old 16-11-2013, 21:23
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It's quite a dull theme this week in fairness.
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Old 16-11-2013, 21:42
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I think she is sober for a change!
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Old 16-11-2013, 21:45
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It's quite a dull theme this week in fairness.
I don't think it was the theme, just the choices were dull.
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Old 16-11-2013, 21:46
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I think she is sober for a change!
That could actually be it(!) A big contrast to the last two weeks.....
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Old 16-11-2013, 21:46
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probably because she realises she could have two acts in the bottom two again
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Old 16-11-2013, 21:49
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probably because she realises she could have two acts in the bottom two again
Yep. She probably knows one of her acts won't win, or make it to the final two.
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Old 16-11-2013, 21:53
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Yep. She probably knows one of her acts won't win, or make it to the final two.
At this rate, I don't think she has a hope of getting an act into the last 4/5 (incredible, seeing as she was favourite to win the series with the bookies).
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Old 16-11-2013, 22:01
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At this rate, I don't think she has a hope of getting an act into the last 4/5 (incredible, seeing as she was favourite to win the series with the bookies).
What a turn around. I thought the girls and boys would be the one to beat, but the girls category this year has not done well at all. I now think Nicole could be the first mentor out. Crikey, who would have thought this
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Old 16-11-2013, 22:05
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What a turn around. I thought the girls and boys would be the one to beat, but the girls category this year has not done well at all. I now think Nicole could be the first mentor out. Crikey, who would have thought this
I've no sympathy for her / the producers though after the way they screwed Melanie McCabe over.....some would say this is sweet justice.
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Old 16-11-2013, 23:01
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I've no sympathy for her / the producers though after the way they screwed Melanie McCabe over.....some would say this is sweet justice.
In all fairness Eurostar, you told us ad nauseum here how Melanie was definitely going to be in the live shows, that there was no way she was going to be pimped so much and not make it. So why do you think that she would have fared any better in the live shows than the other girls? Tamera ' being favoured' is used against her constantly. why wouldn't it have been used against Melanie?
I like Melanie and wish she had been given a chance this year but I won't hold it against the girls who got through. The decision was not theirs and they should be treated as any other act on the live shows. I don't see Sam B getting a backlash because Joseph Wheelan is not there or the boys because Paul is not there.
I think girls always get a hard time on these shows and unfortunately if Melanie was there,I don't think it would've been any different.
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Old 16-11-2013, 23:03
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In all fairness Eurostar, you told us ad nauseum here how Melanie was definitely going to be in the live shows, that there was no way she was going to be pimped so much and not make it. So why do you think that she would have fared any better in the live shows than the other girls? Tamera ' being favoured' is used against her constantly. why wouldn't it have been used against Melanie?
I like Melanie and wish she had been given a chance this year but I won't hold it against the girls who got through. The decision was not theirs and they should be treated as any other act on the live shows. I don't see Sam B getting a backlash because Joseph Wheelan is not there or the boys because Paul is not there.
I think girls always get a hard time on these shows and unfortunately if Melanie was there,I don't think it would've been any different.
Good post. I agree. Melanie didn't make the live shows. If she failed to get on the shows after four attempts, then it wasn't meant to be. She would be more suited for The Voice.
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Old 16-11-2013, 23:05
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In all fairness Eurostar, you told us ad nauseum here how Melanie was definitely going to be in the live shows, that there was no way she was going to be pimped so much and not make it. So why do you think that she would have fared any better in the live shows than the other girls? Tamera ' being favoured' is used against her constantly. why wouldn't it have been used against Melanie?
I like Melanie and wish she had been given a chance this year but I won't hold it against the girls who got through. The decision was not theirs and they should be treated as any other act on the live shows. I don't see Sam B getting a backlash because Joseph Wheelan is not there or the boys because Paul is not there.
I think girls always get a hard time on these shows and unfortunately if Melanie was there,I don't think it would've been any different.
melanie would have been more likely to appeal to the same sort of demographic as sam B and Nicholas imo and apparently they are topping the voting so its not unreasonable to think that melanie would have done better than the three girls selected
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Old 16-11-2013, 23:07
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I agree with the poster above, I think Melanie would've fallen into the Sam B/ Nicholas category, but I would've actually liked her compared to them!!
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Old 16-11-2013, 23:14
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In all fairness Eurostar, you told us ad nauseum here how Melanie was definitely going to be in the live shows, that there was no way she was going to be pimped so much and not make it. So why do you think that she would have fared any better in the live shows than the other girls? Tamera ' being favoured' is used against her constantly. why wouldn't it have been used against Melanie?
I like Melanie and wish she had been given a chance this year but I won't hold it against the girls who got through. The decision was not theirs and they should be treated as any other act on the live shows. I don't see Sam B getting a backlash because Joseph Wheelan is not there or the boys because Paul is not there.
I think girls always get a hard time on these shows and unfortunately if Melanie was there,I don't think it would've been any different.
It's a popularity contest pure and simple, bookclub and certainly not a talent show ie. Big Brother set to music.

I certainly would never have predicted Melanie to win XF (and definitely wasn't doing so at any point before Judges House). I do think she would have won the girls' category : Tamera and Hannah are dislikeable and Abi struggled at bootcamp and JH.

I'm one of the few people here btw who predicted before the live shows the girls' category would flatter to deceive and that there was a strong chance none of the three would get anywhere near the final (the boys and overs categories were being absolutely rubbished here at the same time, in case anyone claims that was very predictable).
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Old 16-11-2013, 23:19
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I've no sympathy for her / the producers though after the way they screwed Melanie McCabe over.....some would say this is sweet justice.
You wouldn't be backing Melanie if she wasn't Irish.

Nobody knows how far Melanie would of got in the live shows so its.impossible to predict. We can have opinions obviously, but that's about it. Nobody knew how the voting would go before live shows.started.
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Old 16-11-2013, 23:24
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I agree with the poster above, I think Melanie would've fallen into the Sam B/ Nicholas category, but I would've actually liked her compared to them!!
Or she might have fallen into Abi territory. I liked Abi but am under no illusion that she presented as more humble than the other girls. Girls are judged primarily on personality in these shows and it's such a pity but people seem to assess personality on how they look also. I've read comments about Hannah looking 'fierce' and Tamera ' full of herself' but I'd wager that Abi may have been more vocal than either. Of course, this could be because Abi is a musician and has spent a few years gigging, wheras the other 2 girls are new to this.
I am a big fan of Janet Devlin and believe that she wasn't the most co operative behind the scenes but she got the publicity she needed and is doing well now. I believe that Melanie should have gone through with Janet that year but I think they chose the right 3 this year. At a push, maybe Relley C should have gone through over Hannah but that's probably hindsight talking.
The category where they put the most similar acts through this year has to be the overs- 3 belters with only one winning out, head and shoulders above the rest.
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Old 16-11-2013, 23:28
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It's a popularity contest pure and simple, bookclub and certainly not a talent show ie. Big Brother set to music.

I certainly would never have predicted Melanie to win XF (and definitely wasn't doing so at any point before Judges House). I do think she would have won the girls' category : Tamera and Hannah are dislikeable and Abi struggled at bootcamp and JH.

I'm one of the few people here btw who predicted before the live shows the girls' category would flatter to deceive and that there was a strong chance none of the three would get anywhere near the final (the boys and overs categories were being absolutely rubbished here at the same time, in case anyone claims that was very predictable).
But why ? Do you think that the boys' category was the best they could have chosen or do you think that boys are treated differently in the live shows? You say it's a personality contest yet Melanie's main critique from the forums was her lack of personality- whether that's true or not is completely subjective.
Girls always get a hard time and why do you think Melanie would have been treated any differently?
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Old 16-11-2013, 23:28
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Or she might have fallen into Abi territory. I liked Abi but am under no illusion that she presented as more humble than the other girls. Girls are judged primarily on personality in these shows and it's such a pity but people seem to assess personality on how they look also. I've read comments about Hannah looking 'fierce' and Tamera ' full of herself' but I'd wager that Abi may have been more vocal than either. Of course, this could be because Abi is a musician and has spent a few years gigging, wheras the other 2 girls are new to this.
I am a big fan of Janet Devlin and believe that she wasn't the most co operative behind the scenes but she got the publicity she needed and is doing well now. I believe that Melanie should have gone through with Janet that year but I think they chose the right 3 this year. At a push, maybe Relley C should have gone through over Hannah but that's probably hindsight talking.
The category where they put the most similar acts through this year has to be the overs- 3 belters with only one winning out, head and shoulders above the rest.
Yet again, I agree.
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Old 16-11-2013, 23:39
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But why ? Do you think that the boys' category was the best they could have chosen or do you think that boys are treated differently in the live shows? You say it's a personality contest yet Melanie's main critique from the forums was her lack of personality- whether that's true or not is completely subjective.
Girls always get a hard time and why do you think Melanie would have been treated any differently?
Well, two girls have actually won the show (Leona and Alexandra) so it's not insurmountable for any girl. My gut feeling before the lives was that Melanie would probably finish third or fourth, with the likes of Sam Bailey and Nicholas McDonald (who received an equally large amount of pimping to Melanie) edging ahead of her.

I wouldn't have predicted all three boys to be still present at week 6...I would have expected at least one to have fallen by the wayside by now.
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Old 16-11-2013, 23:41
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Yet again, I agree.
Cheers Lucy! It's always nice to have someone acknowlege you on these forums , let alone agree with you! Doesn't mean we're right of course, but nice to have someone on the same mindset
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Old 16-11-2013, 23:53
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Well, two girls have actually won the show (Leona and Alexandra) so it's not insurmountable for any girl. My gut feeling before the lives was that Melanie would probably finish third or fourth, with the likes of Sam Bailey and Nicholas McDonald (who received an equally large amount of pimping to Melanie) edging ahead of her.

I wouldn't have predicted all three boys to be still present at week 6...I would have expected at least one to have fallen by the wayside by now.
Yep, 2 out of 10 series! It's not impossible as we know, but I think the insistence on the absense of Melanie being the reason that the girls' category is losing steam, is unfounded. Measuring her against Sam B and Nicholas could have had her out in the first few weeks, but we'll never know. Melanie herself was asked which year was her favourite and she said 2013, and no wonder as she got far more publicity than she did other years.


@MelanieMcCabe #askmelanie Out of the 4 years you were on The X Factor, which was your favourite year?

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.Sometimes it's better not to make the lives than be judged against others in your genre on live television- You can always be ' the one that got away!'
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Old 17-11-2013, 00:03
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Yep, 2 out of 10 series! It's not impossible as we know, but I think the insistence on the absense of Melanie being the reason that the girls' category is losing steam, is unfounded. Measuring her against Sam B and Nicholas could have had her out in the first few weeks, but we'll never know. Melanie herself was asked which year was her favourite and she said 2013, and no wonder as she got far more publicity than she did other years.


@MelanieMcCabe #askmelanie Out of the 4 years you were on The X Factor, which was your favourite year?

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.Sometimes it's better not to make the lives than be judged against others in your genre on live television- You can always be ' the one that got away!'
My only quibble with Melanie's elimination is that she clearly wasn't the fourth or fifth best singer in the girls' category (I would have said she and Tamera were the top two at bootcamp and Judges House). But we all know of course that the entire process is a sham and that Nicole had no input to the choices whatsoever, apart from using her acting skills at JH.

I would have quite liked to have seen Melanie on the live shows just for the sheer sake of it, and not having one eye on how far she could go in the competition or what she would do post-XF.
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Old 17-11-2013, 00:37
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My only quibble with Melanie's elimination is that she clearly wasn't the fourth or fifth best singer in the girls' category (I would have said she and Tamera were the top two at bootcamp and Judges House). But we all know of course that the entire process is a sham and that Nicole had no input to the choices whatsoever, apart from using her acting skills at JH.

I would have quite liked to have seen Melanie on the live shows just for the sheer sake of it, and not having one eye on how far she could go in the competition or what she would do post-XF.
So you've said yourself that the entire thing is a sham, but yet you wouldn't mind if Melanie were part of that sham. You see, I think also the whole thing is a sham but I wouldn't think it was any different had Melanie been there. I don't blame the other girls who have been given that chance, it's not their fault.
I watch a tv show every Winter and root for the one I like the most each week.I don't think anymore of the contestants that got refused at bootcamp, except for Melanie because she had been there before and I like her. I think the girls chosen this year were to appeal to 3 different demographics- Abi singer/ songwriter alternative, Tamera- contemporary popstar, Hannah - soul singer. It is the category with most diversity!
The Overs were all the same and I think Joseph W's 55,000 fans on twitter after 2 years, think the same. Looking objectively, he would have added variety to the mix we had, but so would Andrea and Zoe. The boys' category had 2 singers I believe should have gone to the lives in Paul and Tom, but both may have been voted out at this stage.
The live shows are an entirely different beast to the auditions and we are always at second best to see what songs they willl come up with to deramp our favourites.
Don't you think it was a little bit of a coincidence that we were primed tonight to look for Tamera's forgetfullness from Nicole's vt? Afterall the only time she forgot her lyrics before was in the arena audition, even though every week she has been given a song that she probably doesn't know
.Overall I don't know what leads you to think that Melanie would have been treated any better?
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