Haven't we had enough anti Natalie threads to last for the rest of the series?

I think people are assuming nobody in next year's series will be able to dance and are using up all their good-dancer-on-the-dance-based-entertainment-show hatred now. Better out than in, etc etc.

Don't you think both her 'health scares' have been convenient? They must realise she isn't very popular. I think if she's wasn't at the top of the judges leader board she would have been in the bottom 2 by now.

I genuinely thought that the producers had realised their mistake and that the majority of people seem unhappy that a pro dancer is taking part. And that they were going to use the back problem as a way for her to leave the series without any red faces...

NB I wouldn't have said this was a hate thread. No body else this series has missed a show due to injury, I know Patrick was touch and go but he carried on. This is a legitimate discussion.

If I don't like a thread I either add my two pence worth 2 the discussion or don't bother commenting.

Again, there is absolutely nothing for her to gain from faking an injury or illness at this stage in the series. Even if she went out and fell on her head umpteen times a dance, there is 0% chance she would be voted out, so what exactly is she gaining? People say she's going for the sympathy vote, but it seems to me that the people who mention her problems most are the people who hate her.

Idk what the real problem is with her back, but it seems pretty clear to my untrained eye that she does have a problem and the treatment for that and her desire to work through it contributed to her collapse last week. Ofc we can all say that she should pull out and not exacerbate the problem, but it is her choice and if she thinks she's fit enough to get through it, good luck to her. It was pretty obvious after her dance tonight that she's still not fit.

This armchair diagnosis of hypochondria is a bit tiring. We get it - people don't like that she has a dance background. But to make a leap from ringer, to faker sympathy seeker, too scared to compete is ridiculous. The more I see stuff like this, the more I hope that she does win and I am 100% a neutral this year with no real fave with the celebs.

Natalie has topped Digital Spy's 'favourite dance' poll thrice. Just a bit of factual information as a basis for the jargon there.

No I don't.

Upon what do you base this opinion. The beeb do not release voting figures so this is nothing more than speculation on your part.

Abbey found herself in a dance off despite being 2nd on the leaderboard. If Natalie was as disliked as you like to think she could easily have found herself in the bottom two by now.

Perhaps you're guilty of wishful thinking.


She is not a pro dancer; ergo she has never earned her living as a dancer. She has had some training - she's never tried to hide that but stick to the facts unless you can prove that she has actually made her living as a dancer.


And now you've been proved wrong. She hasn't left the competition - yet again she turned in a stellar performance and no one's face turned red.

She has never been below joint top, which is the only place you are safe. Abby was second when she was in the dance off, so that proves my point.


[/quote] She is not a pro dancer; ergo she has never earned her living as a dancer. She has had some training - she's never tried to hide that but stick to the facts unless you can prove that she has actually made her living as a dancer. [/quote]

Yes she did! She worked ad a dancer until she was 19, which she herself has said. So maybe you should go back and watch the first selection show!

[/quote] And now you've been proved wrong. She hasn't left the competition - yet again she turned in a stellar performance and no one's face turned red.[/quote]

That was my point, as I said I initially thought that's what they were going to do.

If you think that was a stellar performance then you are sadly mistaken. It was full of errors, including timing issues and lazy foot work.

I can see the faults in my favourites perhaps you don't have that ability.
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It was not Natalie's best dance, no, and perhaps she didn't deserve tens. I wouldn't say any of the dances tonight deserved tens, but it's well known that in each and every series, the scores tend to go up as we progress further into the competition.

I'm just astounded how people can argue that she's a dirty rotten cheating professional dancer (who hasn't danced for ten years), and yet argue at the same time that her dancing is bad and full of errors.

Good to have a qualified professional medical view back on the forum, specialising in back problems, now that isletodance's imaginary friend is no longer available to provide quack prognoses!

I haven't called her a dirty rotten cheat, they're your words not mine. All pro dancers make errors at some point, so of course you can legitimately argue the footwork was poor.

You can ask any pro and no matter how long you are away you still have the basics. Think of riding a bike!

I'm going to have to agree to disagree. My favourite part of strictly is to watch how NON dancers progress from the first few weeks. When someone comes in head and shoulders above everyone else, what's the point?!

And I'm sure I could find threads that place her at the bottom.

I know there are people who dislike my favourites, in which case I answer their negativity too.

It's all relative... Wouldn't it be boring if we all liked the same people?

Feel free. Since the polls on the main page receive 5,000+ voters each week, I'd be interested to see what would match that that has Natalie at the bottom. Perhaps 'worst dancer'?

What on earth are you on about?

The poster is asking a legitimate question about the condition of Natalie's back, which they are entitled to do.
Where does it provide a'quack diagnosis'.

What a ridiculous lazy comment

May be...

My only point being that for every plus there is a minus.

As much as I like Susanna I know others don't. The same can be said for all of the celebs and pros alike. It's just funny how some get more attention than others. And some inspire the fans to have some very strong views.

I know I have epidurals just for the lulz all the time.

What you put forward is called a "strawman argument" whereby you state & argue about a point that was not made. I'm too polite to call you a lying toad!

The only people who know the true extent of Natalie's back issues are Natalie, her doctors & I would imagine the show's powers that be. There's no point in making assumptions on her recovery because no one here is going to experience the exact same condition & level of pain &/disability as her.

Thanks to those who are posting fact less information & misguided opinions. You've given me a good laugh after experiencing a particularly bad day with my own back issues.

The original poster said "Watching Natalie dance and some of the move she did makes me wonder weather she really has a back problem because the flip she did would of put her back out unless she saw a Specialist to get it sorted".

Natalie had mediacal treatment and also had an epidural.

The OP queries whether "she really has a a back problem" - as CityOf Roses jokes above, this isn't something that you do just for laughs!

Unless of course you don't believe she had an epidural????

There was a post which was full of bile towards Natalie whereby a poster based on the medical views of "a friend" said Natalie was making it all up - fortunately Digital Spy deleted this thread as it was based on supposed medical opinions which were not not substantiated by the poster.

I really, really don't mind if people can't warm to Natalie - preference is just that. What I hate is this accumulation of conjecture that, if it were stripped down and analysed in any kind of intelligent way, just exposes the original poster as ridiculous.

It's usually done in a coy way that stops short of calling Natalie a liar or her doctors charlatans, but the inference is either one or the other. Either Natalie is making it all up and hasn't even seen a doctor (in which case the BBC is also complicit in this big fat lie), or the doctor who gave her an epidural did so despite it not being medically necessary and should be struck off.

Or, you know, the OP is just making things up to justify his/her view that nobody should vote for nasty Kirsty because she was so mean to Tyrone...

Mean to Tyrone???????

And she's already broken Artem's nose - she should be locked up!!!!!

Lol predictable ........

That isn't what she said at all. She said until she was 19 she was intending to be a professional dancer and then her career plans were cut short by a serious injury.
She's not my favourite but I don't like people manipulating facts to pin things on her which aren't true.

This...

OMG - you are trying to make the truth count, what kind of person are you?????

People's questions are realistic though...

I watch a really rubbish (GREAT) programme called Supernatural, in which two brothers roam blue collar America in battle with vampires, zombies, ghosts and other beasties. Every week they get hurled around and often end up beaten and bloody. But by the start of the next episode they're healthy and unbroken, except one episode where the gawky galumph actor tripped and broke his wrist. Then he wore a cast for ages. A simple injury. No evil dead hand tearing at his heart (like normal)... A simple broken bone that took a realistic amount of time to heal.

I give you Patrick's strained wrist. The two or three week recovery makes sense to our everyday understanding of how things heal...

Now I do not doubt Natalie's health issues. But posters' 'Uh?' responses make sense to me too. And they don't have to be anti-Natalie. It might just be that those posters watch too much bad TV, like me

Natalie has had a bad time with her health but at the same time she's been very lucky. And that does demand an act of trust on behalf of the SCD audience.

(PS, Dean, every time. In case anyone's interested. Sam's OK, I guess)