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Old 17-11-2013, 15:03
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So who is getting the teen girl vote lol

Nicholas?
Sam C?
Luke?


Rough copy?
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Old 17-11-2013, 15:05
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All of them i guess, but most are not voting because they like their music which is the unfortunate thing.
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Old 17-11-2013, 15:05
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Sam C without a doubt!! The teeny boppers love him!! His good looks alone and confidence will get him to the final regardless of how poorly he performs!!

He has a HUGE fanbase and HUGE Twitter following!! Those two factors are all you need to be successful in the X Factor nowadays!!
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Old 17-11-2013, 15:06
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Probably Sam since he should have gone home by now
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Old 17-11-2013, 15:08
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Sam callahan, but his voice isnt that good, he is gonna be the christopher malloney of this series....but he cannot win, he is crap, why the **** (i swore cause its been 4 weeks of rubbish) is he still there, ok i dont hate him, say what u may but i just cannot understand this anyone!
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Old 17-11-2013, 15:11
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The Boys are playing tug-of-war with it (and it won't be long before Nicholas wins). Traditional wisdom has Sam C soaking it all up but Nicholas has consistently been the positive (note that a good chunk of Sam C's social media activity is negative) social media king (and on pace to have the most Twitter followers in less than a week). Luke is also holding his own but is no threat to break out after the last two weeks.

Rough Copy's audience is a little more mature, I reckon.
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Old 17-11-2013, 15:11
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All of them i guess, but most are not voting because they like their music which is the unfortunate thing.
Exactly, it's a singing competition, there may be other things associated with it such as personality, star quality and performance but at the end of the day it is still a singing competition. So why Tamera and Hannah have ended in the B2 over him is beyond me.
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Old 17-11-2013, 15:18
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All of them i guess, but most are not voting because they like their music which is the unfortunate thing.
This.
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Old 17-11-2013, 15:21
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What his detractors fail to recognise is that many of our pop idols are rotten singers. I could mention a few down history - like David Essex, The Gallagher brothers, Paul McCartney - it's not vocal impressarios t the X Factor is looking for - it's the X Factor.- that elusive thing which a star has, a combination of looks, talent, personality, joie de vivre, depression - think of all the winners and out of them all, there have been NO stars. Leona sang a bit, but there was no staying power, she didn't have the X Factor. Maybe Sam has it - Ollie Murs had it - and I think Tamera could have it - we'll see.
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Old 17-11-2013, 16:05
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Exactly, it's a singing competition, there may be other things associated with it such as personality, star quality and performance but at the end of the day it is still a singing competition. So why Tamera and Hannah have ended in the B2 over him is beyond me.
Well, it's the X Factor. It's a bit of Saturday night fluff on the lines of Seaside Special and with the same ill-trained dancers. Sure, I get annoyed when the contestant capable of entertaining me get ejected in favour of somebody I don't like, but that is the nature of the show. When all the entertaining singers are gone I will be too. Judging by the last two seasons that ought to be in the next couple of weeks, but there are actually still six contestants left who are capable of putting in an entertaining performance; a pretty good year.
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Old 17-11-2013, 16:11
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What his detractors fail to recognise is that many of our pop idols are rotten singers. I could mention a few down history - like David Essex, The Gallagher brothers, Paul McCartney - it's not vocal impressarios t the X Factor is looking for - it's the X Factor.- that elusive thing which a star has, a combination of looks, talent, personality, joie de vivre, depression - think of all the winners and out of them all, there have been NO stars. Leona sang a bit, but there was no staying power, she didn't have the X Factor. Maybe Sam has it - Ollie Murs had it - and I think Tamera could have it - we'll see.
Of course. The whole phenomenon of the Pop Idol is much more about the fans than the performer. Little girls exploring their sexuality needing a safe focus for untested feelings. I guess, what a potential mate sounds like while singing is less important than the qualities you list.

With little boys it seems to be more about a sense of belonging and pack membership - music demarking youth-cult membership.
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Old 17-11-2013, 16:14
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So who is getting the teen girl vote lol
I imagine every contestant is being voted for by at least one teen girl lol
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Old 22-11-2013, 13:05
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What happened to Sam's votes?!! He's very popular on Twitter, Facebook etc, etc!! Thought he'd sail through to the final due to his popularity with girls!!
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Old 22-11-2013, 13:12
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I think the 'girl' vote is very overrated.

People say it was only the girl vote that carried Eoghan far. But, that wasn't exactly the case. He was hugely popular with all the grannies at the time. Same with Joe, Leon, Shayne. Etc etc!

The only time a girl vote has been evident was with Sam C and Lloyd. And, it didn't even get them that far.
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Old 22-11-2013, 13:45
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I think the 'girl' vote is very overrated.

People say it was only the girl vote that carried Eoghan far. But, that wasn't exactly the case. He was hugely popular with all the grannies at the time. Same with Joe, Leon, Shayne. Etc etc!

The only time a girl vote has been evident was with Sam C and Lloyd. And, it didn't even get them that far.
afaik Shayne wasn't carried by the 'granny vote'; he was carried by his talent. Also, you forgot 1D and Louis's two boy bands as recipients of the 'girl vote'.
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Old 22-11-2013, 13:48
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afaik Shayne wasn't carried by the 'granny vote'; he was carried by his talent. Also, you forgot 1D and Louis's two boy bands as recipients of the 'girl vote'.
But you could argue 1D actually put in good performances, so there is no way of proving it.

Not at all did I say Shayne wasn't talented, nor did I say the granny vote carried him, I said he was popular with teens and grannies.
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Old 22-11-2013, 14:11
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But you could argue 1D actually put in good performances, so there is no way of proving it.

Not at all did I say Shayne wasn't talented, nor did I say the granny vote carried him, I said he was popular with teens and grannies.
In all honesty though, you really couldn't argue this with even a hope for credibility. One Direction were sh!t. They still are sh!t as far as I know, but said ordure is currently processed through Autotune and only played on Radio 1; where I'll never hear it.

Little girls like boy-bands with big hair - it always has been and always will be so; said boys could sound like cats fighting in a sack.
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Old 22-11-2013, 14:13
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In all honesty though, you really couldn't argue this with even a hope for credibility. One Direction were sh!t. They still are sh!t as far as I know, but said ordure is currently processed through Autotune and only played on Radio 1; where I'll never hear it.

Little girls like boy-bands with big hair - it always has been and always will be so; said boys could sound like cats fighting in a sack.
You can most definitely say they put in good performances. I mean, they weren't absolutely awful.
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Old 22-11-2013, 14:23
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I find all this talk of the such-and-such, whether it be the girl vote, the granny vote, the regional vote etc to be generally quite reductive. Sure these things exist to an extent but if an act is going to get to the final, let alone win, they need to be able to appeal across these divides - these supposed block votes will only carry them so far.
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Old 22-11-2013, 18:15
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You can most definitely say they put in good performances. I mean, they weren't absolutely awful.
I think you'll find they were.
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Old 22-11-2013, 18:20
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I find all this talk of the such-and-such, whether it be the girl vote, the granny vote, the regional vote etc to be generally quite reductive. Sure these things exist to an extent but if an act is going to get to the final, let alone win, they need to be able to appeal across these divides - these supposed block votes will only carry them so far.
Yes, the block votes, if they exist, only really have an impact early on; even a small block will affect the result when there's a 12 way split. As for being "reductive", isn't all analysis, ultimately, reductive?
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Old 22-11-2013, 18:37
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Looks of Twitter I'd say Nicholas was even when Sam C was still there
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Old 22-11-2013, 18:49
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Yes, the block votes, if they exist, only really have an impact early on; even a small block will affect the result when there's a 12 way split. As for being "reductive", isn't all analysis, ultimately, reductive?
I think you can make a full analyses, or as full as one can with the information available. The problem is we don't have much information available to us, so these mythical block-votes get bandied around a little too readily on here and with a little too much weight and usually in a somewhat disparaging way.

For example, I see Nicholas being characterised quite often on here as someone who will benefit from 'the Scottish vote', or the 'teenage girl' vote, or the 'granny vote'. I am not any of those things, I simply appreciate his voice and his talent.

I don't know what my point is really, maybe it's just that I feel lonely in my fandom
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Old 22-11-2013, 19:15
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Yes, the block votes, if they exist, only really have an impact early on; even a small block will affect the result when there's a 12 way split. As for being "reductive", isn't all analysis, ultimately, reductive?
Back when Alexandra Burke won, at the 12 split point 1% was equal to approx. 850 votes.

That week E.Quigg had a 20 something share of the vote.

Its the only time I've seen all the figures for each stage but sorry can't remember the rest.
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Old 22-11-2013, 20:04
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Generally speaking,

Nicholas has the tween/young teen vote
Luke has the older teen vote
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