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Charleston, Past, Present, on SCD & elsewhere - resource thread
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breppo
01-12-2013
Here's Tina Arena and Damian Whitewood on DWTS Australia 2013.
Danced to...
DiamondBetty
01-12-2013
Originally Posted by franglemand:
“Diamond Betty - here's a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANuh-wqEMgU

Thank you for doing this by the way! Charleston is the dance on the show that I know least about and I'm always a bit dubious as to how much the judges and pros on Strictly actually know so this is brilliant. ”

Thank you for reading my waffle, and finding me the link!

It goes like this: boys own segment, some walking, some knee wiggling, close up of Anton, more knee wiggling, some crossed over walking (this might be a weird interpolation of 'strutting') and then an authentic combo: 'knee slaps' 'fall off the log' 'skates' 'Susie Q's' none of it is particularly well grounded, all a bit skippy, the Suzy Q's are a mixed bag (Artem is best at it, but on the back row, baffling) here is a Suzy Q for reference, they pop up fairly often in celeb Charlestons: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QEQOpr6...%3DQEQOpr6Y8Q4 (this is a how to vid so scroll to about 5.10 for complete step at usual speed)
Suzy Q is generally harder with the left foot in front but the pro boys don't even attempt it, they travel back to the left with some good old catch-all behind side fronts and then do some little runs. Cute, not hard, not particularly Charleston.

Then they do a nice Charleston variation with extended kick on the first four beats (sweep charleston) but the second four beats should rock step kick down and it isn't, I don't doubt they can do this, it's an improver/intermediate variation, so someone either didn't know it to teach it right or didn't bother to teach it right. It's a cute fudge. They follow this up with a contemporary ballet style hop over variation thing and something else pretty but not authentic (arm out arm out step step hop ball change? It's a bit tap actually). Then the girls come on.

I can't see what happens with their legs their because the camera cuts way to quick to their gorgeous faces, when it pans out they might be doing a sexy version of the 'shoe shine' 0.23 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xLxRpv-9MzA
but if they are it quickly turns into some 1920s style model poses. There's a bit I suspect might be good but the camera is on their faces. Still, it's cute. Then they do some more generic walking back off and a new formation of boys comes on.
It gets a bit Gene Kelly here with the mops (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DlkrN4D...%3DDlkrN4DXvO0) and the spinning Anton (I think something went wrong there) and then there is a bit more of the 'Skate' move (is Anton on the wrong foot or is that on purpose?)

The the girls come back on and they all do some kick-kick ball change stuff, followed by some Charleston basics then in the fraction of a second before the celebs come on they do what appears to be a crap version of 'rocks', followed by 'spank the baby' (one of my faves but its a blink and you'll miss it moment).

The celebs come on and dance from the waist up with some aeroplane arms. Pan back out, pros are doing some side stepping with kicks and digs (is this meant to be crossovers?) followed by a bit more spank the baby but this time it's interspersed with side steps and not as cool, boo!

Then some more posturing while the celebs descend the stairs, then some basics and some running man type kicks (kinda like skip ups but with the legs in the wrong direction), then a spin and it's over.

Authentic step count 11. I think, but it's hard when there are lots of people on screen!

(Rocks, cross overs, spank the baby, skates, skip ups, fall off the log, knee slaps, and Suzy Q's are all this vid - not everyone is fantastic in it but it's a clear representation of all the steps)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pbteWH-...%3DpbteWH-3QlY

Hello - my name is Betty and I am a dance geek, all together now - hello Betty!
DiamondBetty
01-12-2013
Originally Posted by breppo:
“Here's Tina Arena and Damian Whitewood on DWTS Australia 2013.
Danced to...”

I think that version (the original?) worked better, although that only contained 12 authentic steps, versus Natalie's 22!

Fantastic costuming and I like the way Tina moves.
Cadiva
01-12-2013
Originally Posted by DiamondBetty:
“Anyway, here's Ryan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85nX0g2p4zU (Ryan is the leader when they start partner dancing) in a little performance inspired by the Nicholas Brothers and Al and Leon.”

I just got round to watching this, thank you so much! What "effortless" style they have. The way they move makes it look like they're dancing on air (can't really think of a better way to phrase it, it looks like their legs are simply glancing off the earth with every step).
The Nicholas Brothers are two of my all time favourite tap dancer partnerships, watching them dance in Stormy Weather is just mana to my soul
There's a great biography about them which someone's kindly uploaded to YouTube here.
henrywilliams58
25-09-2014
Just found this

I Charleston Bern

http://youtu.be/H6jKLstdpYs
Pet Monkey
25-09-2014
Thank you for re-discovering and dusting the cobwebs off this thread and the AT thread, HenryW.

Fabulous video!! Just cheerful and smiley all through
henrywilliams58
25-09-2014
Originally Posted by Pet Monkey:
“Thank you for re-discovering and dusting the cobwebs off this thread and the AT thread, HenryW.

Fabulous video!! Just cheerful and smiley all through”

J.R
25-09-2014
This has already been posted earlier in the the thread but it's my all time favourite SCD Charleston (Patrick and Anya)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P26tZ0v-kOs
fawkes
25-09-2014
Ooh, just seen this thread, I shall enjoy exploring back through the links!

DiamondBetty, if you are still around, could I ask what you thought of two other previous SCD Charlestons - namely Matt Baker & Aliona Vilani, and Chelsee Healey & Pasha Kovalev? I loved both of these and it'd be great to hear your take on them.

FWIW, re the discussions above, I thought Nat/Artem's charleston was brilliantly danced, but for me it was badly let down by the music which I just didn't enjoy and didn't feel it remotely fitted the dance. Enjoyed Sophie/Brendan's a lot more, even though I wasn't as impressed by the actual dancing!
fawkes
26-09-2014
This thread is dangerous... It's just prompted me to rediscover this Strictly pro Charleston:

http://youtu.be/FuOoxiaDFe0

which is easily one of my favourite pro routines in recent(ish) years
henrywilliams58
14-10-2014
This looks great fun

I Charleston Bern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoOBjBkOmrw
TomStar
28-10-2014
Great thread

We are yet to see a great Charleston yet in this years Strictly imo, something i'm looking forward to.

Looking through some great routines of past series I can't decide which choreographer's style I prefer between:

Bill Deamer: inc. these routines:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5ueCT9p8gM (Kimberley Walsh & Pasha)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRsan_COiD0 (Sophie EB & Brendan)

or Jenny Thomas inc. these ones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc9i7EYIZmY (Louis Smith & Flavia)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUI_6fe_OXE (Denise VO & JJ)

Anyhow I personally can't wait to see in the coming weeks Jake/Jannette's & Pixie/Trent's Charleston's to see if they produce classic entertaining high scoring routines....
DiamondBetty
28-10-2014
Hello! That was a bit like accidentally hearing one's own voice on the answer phone!

I prefers the Francois/Thomas ones in terms of content, the SEB had a woefully low number of recognisable steps. The Deamer Charleston's are always fun though.

My favourite so far was Patrick and Anya's last year (a Ryan Francois one, I believe).

Interestingly enough, this year both Ryan and Jenny have been listed on the Saturday show credits for the first time in their 8 years with the show.
Jenny has choreographed Alison's upcoming Halloween Charleston and they'll be going up against Steve and Ola's Charleston - Ola has only ever done the (famous) Cola routine and that was a Ryan and Jenny number so perhaps this week will be a battle of the former spouse dance partners and Jenny's work will be directly up against Ryan's


(RF and JT are still very supportive of each other personally and professionally so any rivalry will be friendly and may see some terrific work, hope Alison and Steve are up to task)
DiamondBetty
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by fawkes:
“Ooh, just seen this thread, I shall enjoy exploring back through the links!

DiamondBetty, if you are still around, could I ask what you thought of two other previous SCD Charlestons - namely Matt Baker & Aliona Vilani, and Chelsee Healey & Pasha Kovalev? I loved both of these and it'd be great to hear your take on them.

FWIW, re the discussions above, I thought Nat/Artem's charleston was brilliantly danced, but for me it was badly let down by the music which I just didn't enjoy and didn't feel it remotely fitted the dance. Enjoyed Sophie/Brendan's a lot more, even though I wasn't as impressed by the actual dancing!”

Hello! I will rewatch these later and report back, sorry I didn't see your question sooner!
boab34
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by TomStar:
“Great thread

We are yet to see a great Charleston yet in this years Strictly imo, something i'm looking forward to.

Looking through some great routines of past series I can't decide which choreographer's style I prefer between:

Bill Deamer: inc. these routines:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5ueCT9p8gM (Kimberley Walsh & Pasha)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRsan_COiD0 (Sophie EB & Brendan)

or Jenny Thomas inc. these ones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc9i7EYIZmY (Louis Smith & Flavia)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUI_6fe_OXE (Denise VO & JJ)

Anyhow I personally can't wait to see in the coming weeks Jake/Jannette's & Pixie/Trent's Charleston's to see if they produce classic entertaining high scoring routines....”

thanks I've been trying to find out for ages who choreographed DVO's as Bill Deamer said he didn't
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