Dogs go mad for a big bone from the butchers. why and do all breeds exhibit this type of behavior. What about cats and bones?
Do all breeds of dogs go mad with bones. And cats?
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I would imagine they do, however Betty is a bit over whelmed by bones bigger than her and isn't quite sure what to do with them, so we don't do bones we do stuffed kongs and carrots which she loves.
Originally Posted by molliepops:
“I would imagine they do, however Betty is a bit over whelmed by bones bigger than her and isn't quite sure what to do with them, so we don't do bones we do stuffed kongs and carrots which she loves.”
“I would imagine they do, however Betty is a bit over whelmed by bones bigger than her and isn't quite sure what to do with them, so we don't do bones we do stuffed kongs and carrots which she loves.”
Yes our dog has carrots too and loves them. We don't do bones either.
what do you mean by 'go mad', ours growls if you give him a bone and then go anywhere near him. He is only allowed them in the garden
Our dog was really fussy, he couldn't care less about bones and it used to take some coaxing to get him interested in chews. Give him an old slipper, though and he was overjoyed.
He also had the temperament of wanting to be friends with anything and if we sat him with a cat he'd just want to be buds.
Silly mongrel.
He also had the temperament of wanting to be friends with anything and if we sat him with a cat he'd just want to be buds.
Silly mongrel.
Bones can be, to some dogs, a super high value treat if they get them so rarely but are kept on boring kibble 24/7/365.
My dog gets raw bones regularly so they are nothing special (that and she's be taught from day one that there's no need to guard her food).
Same goes for cats, if there are usually fed on bland kibble, then they will be enthusiastic over the occasional addition of fresh meat.
My dog gets raw bones regularly so they are nothing special (that and she's be taught from day one that there's no need to guard her food).
Same goes for cats, if there are usually fed on bland kibble, then they will be enthusiastic over the occasional addition of fresh meat.
Originally Posted by tiacat:
“what do you mean by 'go mad', ours growls if you give him a bone and then go anywhere near him. He is only allowed them in the garden”
“what do you mean by 'go mad', ours growls if you give him a bone and then go anywhere near him. He is only allowed them in the garden”
You should have taken things off him as a puppy. Every dog I have had would leave his food/bone/treat when you approached and my daughter can take bones off my terrier.
Originally Posted by finbaar:
“You should have taken things off him as a puppy. Every dog I have had would leave his food/bone/treat when you approached and my daughter can take bones off my terrier.”
“You should have taken things off him as a puppy. Every dog I have had would leave his food/bone/treat when you approached and my daughter can take bones off my terrier.”
I don't know tiacat's circumstances but not all of us have dogs from puppies and have to learn to live with their ways one of my late dogs was starved as a pup/young dog when he came to us no amount of training would make him less food aggressive we had to work out safe ways to deal with that.
Of course in a perfect world we all have pups we can mould to our ways (my two now are lovely and give up anything when I ask) but we cannot assume everyone has the same perfect start.
Dogs going crazy for bones in the cartoon sense is generally not true, anymore than rabbits live on carrots, mice love cheese or cats adore milk. However, dogs do enjoy bones, it gives their jaws the workout they were intended for, keeps them occupied and cleans the teeth. That said though, bones can also be extremely dangerous, they can get stuck in the throat, windpipe, stomach, gut etc. if you give your dog bones, marrowbone is the best ( marrow is very good good for dogs), never give chicken bones, or cooked ones as they can splinter and crack ( if the dog swallows a piece it could pierce its throat
), only give raw bones and never leave a dog unattended with one. A far safer and healthier option to a bone though is a rope tug toy, or a raw carrot.
), only give raw bones and never leave a dog unattended with one. A far safer and healthier option to a bone though is a rope tug toy, or a raw carrot.
Originally Posted by CollieWobbles:
“ That said though, bones can also be extremely dangerous, they can get stuck in the throat, windpipe, stomach, gut etc. if you give your dog bones, marrowbone is the best ( marrow is very good good for dogs), never give chicken bones, or cooked ones as they can splinter and crack ( if the dog swallows a piece it could pierce its throat), only give raw bones and never leave a dog unattended with one. A far safer and healthier option to a bone though is a rope tug toy, or a raw carrot.”
“ That said though, bones can also be extremely dangerous, they can get stuck in the throat, windpipe, stomach, gut etc. if you give your dog bones, marrowbone is the best ( marrow is very good good for dogs), never give chicken bones, or cooked ones as they can splinter and crack ( if the dog swallows a piece it could pierce its throat
), only give raw bones and never leave a dog unattended with one. A far safer and healthier option to a bone though is a rope tug toy, or a raw carrot.”
Personally, i feel RAW chicken bones are better than hard, weight bearing leg bones (marrow bones). Bones that are too hard are more likely to cause obstruction, impaction or perforation, but all these things are rare.
I've fed raw for years bones, meat, offal with not issues.
Dogs cannot digest carrot, it give's Diz diarrhoea.
Oddly enough, every dog I had as a kid used to love bones but neither of my own dogs are really fussed about them at all.
My lab' just doesn't bother with them at all. She'd rather just carry a tennis ball around with her and my Spaniel does seem to enjoy destroying the soft bits of a bone but only in the same way that she methodically sets about destroying, erm, anything that catches her eye.
My lab' just doesn't bother with them at all. She'd rather just carry a tennis ball around with her and my Spaniel does seem to enjoy destroying the soft bits of a bone but only in the same way that she methodically sets about destroying, erm, anything that catches her eye.
Originally Posted by Muze:
“Personally, i feel RAW chicken bones are better than hard, weight bearing leg bones (marrow bones). Bones that are too hard are more likely to cause obstruction, impaction or perforation, but all these things are rare.
I've fed raw for years bones, meat, offal with not issues.
Dogs cannot digest carrot, it give's Diz diarrhoea.”
“Personally, i feel RAW chicken bones are better than hard, weight bearing leg bones (marrow bones). Bones that are too hard are more likely to cause obstruction, impaction or perforation, but all these things are rare.
I've fed raw for years bones, meat, offal with not issues.
Dogs cannot digest carrot, it give's Diz diarrhoea.”
Totally agree with you, I feed my dogs raw and they never get weight bearing bones, but they do get raw chicken lots of times. Raw chicken bones are soft and they digest them perfectly.
Originally Posted by Muze:
“Personally, i feel RAW chicken bones are better than hard, weight bearing leg bones (marrow bones). Bones that are too hard are more likely to cause obstruction, impaction or perforation, but all these things are rare.
I've fed raw for years bones, meat, offal with not issues.
Dogs cannot digest carrot, it give's Diz diarrhoea.”
“Personally, i feel RAW chicken bones are better than hard, weight bearing leg bones (marrow bones). Bones that are too hard are more likely to cause obstruction, impaction or perforation, but all these things are rare.
I've fed raw for years bones, meat, offal with not issues.
Dogs cannot digest carrot, it give's Diz diarrhoea.”
They aren't supposed to digest the carrot, it cleans their teeth and makes a nice hardly any calorie snack for them preventing them gaining too much weight. It comes out the other end and makes finding poop in long grass really quite easy
Originally Posted by Muze:
“Personally, i feel RAW chicken bones are better than hard, weight bearing leg bones (marrow bones). Bones that are too hard are more likely to cause obstruction, impaction or perforation, but all these things are rare.
I've fed raw for years bones, meat, offal with not issues.
Dogs cannot digest carrot, it give's Diz diarrhoea.”
“Personally, i feel RAW chicken bones are better than hard, weight bearing leg bones (marrow bones). Bones that are too hard are more likely to cause obstruction, impaction or perforation, but all these things are rare.
I've fed raw for years bones, meat, offal with not issues.
Dogs cannot digest carrot, it give's Diz diarrhoea.”
No they can't digest carrot, but it doesn't matter, its not given for food
The carrot is to replace a bone as a healthier snack, and does the job of a bone, cleans teeth and keeps dog occupied, and that's all its for. Most dogs like carrots and eat them happily, but obviously there's exceptions, just like for everything else.
Originally Posted by molliepops:
“They aren't supposed to digest the carrot, it cleans their teeth and makes a nice hardly any calorie snack for them preventing them gaining too much weight. It comes out the other end and makes finding poop in long grass really quite easy”
“They aren't supposed to digest the carrot, it cleans their teeth and makes a nice hardly any calorie snack for them preventing them gaining too much weight. It comes out the other end and makes finding poop in long grass really quite easy
”
I'm with you on this molliepops
Originally Posted by CollieWobbles:
“Dogs going crazy for bones in the cartoon sense is generally not true, anymore than rabbits live on carrots, mice love cheese or cats adore milk. However, dogs do enjoy bones, it gives their jaws the workout they were intended for, keeps them occupied and cleans the teeth. That said though, bones can also be extremely dangerous, they can get stuck in the throat, windpipe, stomach, gut etc. if you give your dog bones, marrowbone is the best ( marrow is very good good for dogs), never give chicken bones, or cooked ones as they can splinter and crack ( if the dog swallows a piece it could pierce its throat), only give raw bones and never leave a dog unattended with one. A far safer and healthier option to a bone though is a rope tug toy, or a raw carrot.”
“Dogs going crazy for bones in the cartoon sense is generally not true, anymore than rabbits live on carrots, mice love cheese or cats adore milk. However, dogs do enjoy bones, it gives their jaws the workout they were intended for, keeps them occupied and cleans the teeth. That said though, bones can also be extremely dangerous, they can get stuck in the throat, windpipe, stomach, gut etc. if you give your dog bones, marrowbone is the best ( marrow is very good good for dogs), never give chicken bones, or cooked ones as they can splinter and crack ( if the dog swallows a piece it could pierce its throat
), only give raw bones and never leave a dog unattended with one. A far safer and healthier option to a bone though is a rope tug toy, or a raw carrot.”
My friend is a chicken farmer and his 4 dogs live on both raw and cooked chicken complete with bones. How do you think Wild Dogs Feral Dogs and even Wolves in the wild manage?. My own dog has all sorts of bones inc' Chicken in addition to his complete dry food diet. Another friend is wary of feeding bones but has just paid £200 to have its teeth cleaned by his Vet'.
Originally Posted by Hut27:
“My friend is a chicken farmer and his 4 dogs live on both raw and cooked chicken complete with bones. How do you think Wild Dogs Feral Dogs and even Wolves in the wild manage?. My own dog has all sorts of bones inc' Chicken in addition to his complete dry food diet. Another friend is wary of feeding bones but has just paid £200 to have its teeth cleaned by his Vet'.”
“My friend is a chicken farmer and his 4 dogs live on both raw and cooked chicken complete with bones. How do you think Wild Dogs Feral Dogs and even Wolves in the wild manage?. My own dog has all sorts of bones inc' Chicken in addition to his complete dry food diet. Another friend is wary of feeding bones but has just paid £200 to have its teeth cleaned by his Vet'.”
Yes because you often see wild dogs around a camp fire cooking their chicken don't you
The reason chicken bones (or any bone really, but particularly bird) are dangerous when cooked is because they are hollow, which makes them extremely brittle when cooked. Which is dangerous for dogs (and any animal)
Originally Posted by molliepops:
“I don't know tiacat's circumstances but not all of us have dogs from puppies and have to learn to live with their ways one of my late dogs was starved as a pup/young dog when he came to us no amount of training would make him less food aggressive we had to work out safe ways to deal with that.
Of course in a perfect world we all have pups we can mould to our ways (my two now are lovely and give up anything when I ask) but we cannot assume everyone has the same perfect start.”
“I don't know tiacat's circumstances but not all of us have dogs from puppies and have to learn to live with their ways one of my late dogs was starved as a pup/young dog when he came to us no amount of training would make him less food aggressive we had to work out safe ways to deal with that.
Of course in a perfect world we all have pups we can mould to our ways (my two now are lovely and give up anything when I ask) but we cannot assume everyone has the same perfect start.”
Totally agree,
my dog was a rescue and came to us in a really bad way (unhealthy and could barely walk his legs were that stiff from lack of exercise, partly the reason i insisted we get him). We later realised he is very dog aggressive and can't go anywhere near other dogs, we have no idea why but it is clearly fear-aggression, we think he must have had a bad experience in the past. Nothing we could do but muzzle him and walk him in secluded areas where we aren't likely to chance upon another dog.
He isn't possessive of his things and gives them up when you ask (albiet grudgingly!). He does love raw bones that agree with his stomach. He hates cats, but tolerates my mothers cat when we go to her house.
Originally Posted by crunchienut:
“Totally agree,
my dog was a rescue and came to us in a really bad way (unhealthy and could barely walk his legs were that stiff from lack of exercise, partly the reason i insisted we get him). We later realised he is very dog aggressive and can't go anywhere near other dogs, we have no idea why but it is clearly fear-aggression, we think he must have had a bad experience in the past. Nothing we could do but muzzle him and walk him in secluded areas where we aren't likely to chance upon another dog.
He isn't possessive of his things and gives them up when you ask (albiet grudgingly!). He does love raw bones that agree with his stomach. He hates cats, but tolerates my mothers cat when we go to her house.”
“Totally agree,
my dog was a rescue and came to us in a really bad way (unhealthy and could barely walk his legs were that stiff from lack of exercise, partly the reason i insisted we get him). We later realised he is very dog aggressive and can't go anywhere near other dogs, we have no idea why but it is clearly fear-aggression, we think he must have had a bad experience in the past. Nothing we could do but muzzle him and walk him in secluded areas where we aren't likely to chance upon another dog.
He isn't possessive of his things and gives them up when you ask (albiet grudgingly!). He does love raw bones that agree with his stomach. He hates cats, but tolerates my mothers cat when we go to her house.”
how sad for you crunchie. You may already be aware of it but have you looked at bat training to help with the fear? It's ideal for fear aggression and whilst it won't mean a miracle fix it might make thigs a bit easier for your dog to cope.
Originally Posted by finbaar:
“You should have taken things off him as a puppy. Every dog I have had would leave his food/bone/treat when you approached and my daughter can take bones off my terrier.”
“You should have taken things off him as a puppy. Every dog I have had would leave his food/bone/treat when you approached and my daughter can take bones off my terrier.”
Just seen this and it's rediculous advice. Taking thing from a pup doesn't make them suddenly ok with it, in fact it can do the exact opposite. I'd suggest you were lucky that your dog didn't mind and you'd probably not have an issue now, but for anyone looking for advice on training - DONT DO THIS!
My Impossible Princess would find bones from the neighbours' barbecues and bring them in through the cat flap.
Originally Posted by bazaar1:
“ how sad for you crunchie. You may already be aware of it but have you looked at bat training to help with the fear? It's ideal for fear aggression and whilst it won't mean a miracle fix it might make thigs a bit easier for your dog to cope.”
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how sad for you crunchie. You may already be aware of it but have you looked at bat training to help with the fear? It's ideal for fear aggression and whilst it won't mean a miracle fix it might make thigs a bit easier for your dog to cope.”
I was actually looking at a book on this recently, i think i will buy it and give it a try. Got nothing to lose!
Originally Posted by crunchienut:
“I was actually looking at a book on this recently, i think i will buy it and give it a try. Got nothing to lose!”
“I was actually looking at a book on this recently, i think i will buy it and give it a try. Got nothing to lose!
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We'll worth it, we've had some brilliant results, it's all about recognising when your dog is asking for help, preventing them getting to that point of aggression.
Originally Posted by bazaar1:
“Just seen this and it's rediculous advice. Taking thing from a pup doesn't make them suddenly ok with it, in fact it can do the exact opposite. I'd suggest you were lucky that your dog didn't mind and you'd probably not have an issue now, but for anyone looking for advice on training - DONT DO THIS!”
“Just seen this and it's rediculous advice. Taking thing from a pup doesn't make them suddenly ok with it, in fact it can do the exact opposite. I'd suggest you were lucky that your dog didn't mind and you'd probably not have an issue now, but for anyone looking for advice on training - DONT DO THIS!”
I do despair sometimes with the people in this section. How else is a dog to understand that you can take things off it if you don't take things off it from the get go? Dogs should eat on command and leave food on command. You can't have dogs being defensive or possessive.
Originally Posted by finbaar:
“I do despair sometimes with the people in this section. How else is a dog to understand that you can take things off it if you don't take things off it from the get go? Dogs should eat on command and leave food on command. You can't have dogs being defensive or possessive.”
“I do despair sometimes with the people in this section. How else is a dog to understand that you can take things off it if you don't take things off it from the get go? Dogs should eat on command and leave food on command. You can't have dogs being defensive or possessive.”
Yes, they should, but that's not how to do it though. You don't allow a small puppy to guard food/toys/bones otherwise think of the problems you will have problems when he's a grown mature 18 month old dog that you can't get to stop growling when you near him. However, that is not the same as taking the dinner away from under their nose, that is a sure fire way to make a dog defensive and you might end up getting bitten! Think how you would react if someone suddenly snatched your plate away whilst you were eating!
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