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Becky_B
18-11-2013
Originally Posted by fridgesoup:
“I'm sorry you've had a bad experience . I've probably oversimplified what she means (and as I say, it isn't my view, but I think there's something in it worth thinking about). So if someone makes a patronising remark, it doesn't mean they are not being mean or rude and that you have no reason to be offended, but that if you feel diminished by what they say, that comes from your own view of yourself or your own sensitivities. A bit harsh, perhaps, and I daresay, depends very much on the situation and the people .... (If someone knows just where to stick the knife in to deliberately make a person feel inadequate, they're doing something much nastier than being patronising imo ).”


It

I'm not going to say anymore on this subject after this.

Its a view i have problems with because whilst it carries a certain amount of truth in trivial cases...

I assure you, there are people, for whom cruelty is as easy as breathing.And for whom the minimisation of another person's value is integral to their thinking. And that they can be extremely expert at working on a person's sense of self worth.

Especially after years of being prepared by life.

And a general and consistent air of patronising attitudes, and minimisation doesn't help.



I am NOT suggesting this is the case with Brendan, we've got far away and its partly my fault and i'm sorry. Lets please get back to the silliness.
fridgesoup
18-11-2013
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Not saying this applies in Sophie's case, but I agree with your explanation (with some teeny reservations). My dad (bless his soul) always told me "don't let them get you no matter what they say". Wise words...”

BIB - no, indeed . Although I did take what she said as having a slight edge (beyond pure jokeyness) .... but that may well be more of a reflection of how I would have responded in her shoes rather than any insight into Sophie's true feelings .
SCD-Observer
18-11-2013
Originally Posted by fridgesoup:
“BIB - no, indeed . Although I did take what she said as having a slight edge (beyond pure jokeyness) .... but that may well be more of a reflection of how I would have responded in her shoes rather than any insight into Sophie's true feelings .”

I would have done exactly the same in Sophie's shoes, whether I was in a jocular mood or trying to verbally smack his wrist for being silly.
fridgesoup
18-11-2013
Originally Posted by Becky_B:
“It

I'm not going to say anymore on this subject after this.

Its a view i have problems with because whilst it carries a certain amount of truth in trivial cases...

I assure you, there are people, for whom cruelty is as easy as breathing.And for whom the minimisation of another person's value is integral to their thinking. And that they can be extremely expert at working on a person's sense of self worth.

Especially after years of being prepared by life.



I am NOT suggesting this is the case with Brendan, we've got far away and its partly my fault and i'm sorry. Lets please get back to the silliness.”

I wouldn't disagree with any of that, just about whether 'patronising' is really an appropriate description.. .. Anyway, as you say, we've drifted off-topic rather
Sofajudge
18-11-2013
He did deserve a slap but could it just be that during an emotional moment he made a slip. After all he does have a little girl at home? Easily done perhaps?
Becky_B
18-11-2013
Originally Posted by Sofajudge:
“He did deserve a slap but could it just be that during an emotional moment he made a slip. After all he does have a little girl at home? Easily done perhaps?”

Definitely slapworthy

I'm joking btw, I'm not really advocating slapping, just a verbal retort.
Poppysinbloom
18-11-2013
In the knowledge that whatever one reads into Sophie's words says as much about them as the reality of her feelings in that moment - I laughed when she said it and thought good for you! Putting that patronising g*t in his place.
SCD-Observer
18-11-2013
Originally Posted by Sofajudge:
“He did deserve a slap but could it just be that during an emotional moment he made a slip. After all he does have a little girl at home? Easily done perhaps?”

To be charitable (because I can be nice too!) I think he's indeed really proud with Sophie and since generally when (straight) men gets emotional, they only have a few stock moulds to generate that emotions from, he pick the moment when he was brimming with pride and joy when seeing his baby girl born, so he let slip that moment. Still quite cringey, so I applauded Sophie to reign him in even if it made him a tad embarrassed after that.
RachelBlackburn
18-11-2013
Originally Posted by Tommo781:
“^^ All of above. I cringed when he said it, and was delighted at Sophie's response. Good on yer gal!”

"Gal"? She's 34 you know....
saoir
18-11-2013
So many humourless people completely ignorant of the meaning of friendly banter. Well done Brendan.
Becky_B
19-11-2013
Originally Posted by saoir:
“So many humourless people completely ignorant of the meaning of friendly banter. Well done Brendan.”

Such a lovely, pleasant post.
Rhumbatugger
19-11-2013
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“To be charitable (because I can be nice too!) I think he's indeed really proud with Sophie and since generally when (straight) men gets emotional, they only have a few stock moulds to generate that emotions from, he pick the moment when he was brimming with pride and joy when seeing his baby girl born, so he let slip that moment. Still quite cringey, so I applauded Sophie to reign him in even if it made him a tad embarrassed after that. ”

Brendan is hilariously silly, and Sophie does need to verbally biff him now and again. She's too polite.

She doesn't want to hurt or humiliate him, but he really does need a biff now and again, he's inflated and uber manly and she doesn't need it, it cheeses her a bit, from what I've seen.

I just hope she finds a way to handle him a bit - I think she can.

And it would spare Brendan in the long run - cruel to be kind and all that.

I can't take Brendan seriously as a great patroniser, he's just too ridiculous, and I'm oddly fond of the fool.
Sofajudge
19-11-2013
Originally Posted by Becky_B:
“Definitely slapworthy

I'm joking btw, I'm not really advocating slapping, just a verbal retort.”



Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“To be charitable (because I can be nice too!) I think he's indeed really proud with Sophie and since generally when (straight) men gets emotional, they only have a few stock moulds to generate that emotions from, he pick the moment when he was brimming with pride and joy when seeing his baby girl born, so he let slip that moment. Still quite cringey, so I applauded Sophie to reign him in even if it made him a tad embarrassed after that. ”

I quite like soft, silly Brendan but am glad Sophie can keep him in line.
musicangel
19-11-2013
Originally Posted by water_carrier:
“The partnership is simply not one. There is no chemistry between them at all. The problem with Sophie is Brendan. It's as simple as that.
He's so competitive, so driven and, dare I say, arrogant these unlikable traits supersede everything. His ego is the third person in their relationship. She probably finds it very difficult being taught by him.
I know its easy to say but I'm sure we'd see a different side to her if she'd been paired with someone else.”

If you don't know him you can't make that assumption, I've met him dozens of times last ten years of all the pros he is the loviest and most genuine l, does loads for charity too, Sophie is her self she's a bit like me just because im not hugging someone hundreds of time during training doesn't mean I don't like them im just not a fan of it, thats fake, and for those who do that on the show I would say their relationships are more awkward as overcompensating for it..

but yet another Brendan bashing thread when actually he's the best pro on the floor
Monaogg
19-11-2013
When Brendan goes off on one of his obsequious smarmy soliloquies he can sound very supercilious.

He may not intend to sound patronising, but the words & tone he uses come across that way.

So glad Sophie bit back.
PinkPetunia
19-11-2013
Originally Posted by musicangel:
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but yet another Brendan bashing thread when actually he's the best pro on the floor”

I think both Artem and Aljaz are far better dancers . My eyes are always drawn to them and their fluid movements .
Sofajudge
19-11-2013
Originally Posted by PinkPetunia:
“I think both Artem and Aljaz are far better dancers . My eyes are always drawn to them and their fluid movements .”

Aljaz? I find him very on dimensional. No light and shade. Artem is gloriously talented as a choreographer but a little soulless at times.

Good that we all have different tastes and SCD caters to most of us.
aggs
19-11-2013
Originally Posted by musicangel:
“but yet another Brendan bashing thread when actually he's the best pro on the floor”

Well. he's good value I'll give him that.
sofakat
19-11-2013
Originally Posted by Sally Mander2:
“It was a crime against humanity and Brendan should be severely punished to an inch of his life and sent to that penal colony across the other side of the globe.”

I don't think Australia wants him back Sally.

I think his crime is his hilariously bad choreography though.
SCD-Observer
19-11-2013
"And lo! The dance expert heretofore speaketh..."

**********

And just to musicangel, glad you had several chances to meet up with Brendan and getting to know a little more about him as a person than merely a TV persona.

However, you surely could see that he does sometimes put his foot in his mouth when asked for an opinion.

Brendan, like Anton, is the longest serving pro in the show, and I for one could see the vast improvement he made in his dancing and choreographing ballroom numbers for his celeb partners. Perhaps I'm more traditionalist than others that way so I really, really appreciate his guts in sticking to and thus, most of the time, wonderfully capturing the spirit of the ballroom dances he is tasked to do. There is only so much you can reinvent the wheel before the said wheel loses its core function, so to speak...

But, having said that, I'm normally quite apathetic when I watch his latin efforts, because he seems to have the penchant for choosing music from the 80s, but that's not the main reason for my disliking his latin choreography. Being a supposed latin specialist I'm expecting more skills and variety from him in that area but sadly for me, his latin had been uninspiring...
warszawa
19-11-2013
Originally Posted by Monaogg:
“When Brendan goes off on one of his obsequious smarmy soliloquies he can sound very supercilious.

He may not intend to sound patronising, but the words & tone he uses come across that way.

So glad Sophie bit back.”

I imagine not something Chris Eubank would care to repeat.
saoir
19-11-2013
Originally Posted by PinkPetunia:
“I think both Artem and Aljaz are far better dancers . My eyes are always drawn to them and their fluid movements .”

Hmmm yes.... I think we all know what 'fluid movements' you mean ...
wazzyboy
19-11-2013
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“I don't think Australia wants him back Sally.

I think his crime is his hilariously bad choreography though.”

Why would Australia want him back? He's a Kiwi.
Button62
19-11-2013
Originally Posted by wazzyboy:
“Why would Australia want him back? He's a Kiwi. ”

Overrated fruit ?
wazzyboy
19-11-2013
Originally Posted by Button62:
“Overrated fruit ?”

I'm quite sure you knew what I meant.
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