|
||||||||
How Do You Think The Remaining Couples are Doing In The Public Vote? |
![]() |
|
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
#51 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 13,160
|
Quote:
Looks like don't be in 4-6th this week.
![]()
|
|
|
|
|
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
|
|
|
#52 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: DOTS are evil!
Posts: 32,338
|
Quote:
Of those remaining, Susanna's performance slots have definitely been the best, and Ben's and Patrick's have definitely been the worst.
(Although this is with Fiona out of the equation, whose performance slots were rapidly reaching Alex Jones levels of parodically awful). Just checked Mark's and producers don't seem to like him half as much as this board, he's had a horrible run 3rd of 6 on Friday 11th of 15 6th of 14 3rd of 13 8th of 12 6th of 11 4th of 10 7th of 9 He's the one almost consistently going in the first half so Susanna can stay in the last. not even a sniff of going first or last or even next to last. |
|
|
|
|
#53 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 9,514
|
Thanks guys.
So the next question I guess is how far running order impacts compared to other factors, if you look at our three survivors of the bottom two (Mark twice, of course and he has been nearer the front end which is supposedly a good slot also) they I think have a spread of slots, but I am not sure if it's really more to do with marking in the case of Abbey and Patrick, people thinking they would be safe. Natalie's got a similar spread of slots to those two, so does the fact that she has been safe mean that she has had her vote hold up for her better than those two? I think it is just too hard to say as things may well change week on week, neither Abbey nor Patrick has ended up in the bottom two more than once so, so far, their bounceback has been sustainable. (Conscious that I am possibly rambling now in order to try and simply say "I think the vote depends on all sorts, running order may or may not be one for some couples")
|
|
|
|
|
|
#54 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 582
|
Thanks for all the Stats.
I definitely had the impression that Susanna was almost always in the latest slots and this confirms it. Unfair tactic from the Beeb I feel. |
|
|
|
|
|
#55 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 9,514
|
Quote:
Thanks for all the Stats.
I definitely had the impression that Susanna was almost always in the latest slots and this confirms it. Unfair tactic from the Beeb I feel. |
|
|
|
|
|
#56 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: DOTS are evil!
Posts: 32,338
|
I think this does show you who's in favour with producers and who isn't. Patrick wasn't to start and now is getting much better positions, Ashley and Sophie are generally getting worse, Mark and Ben are obviously considered filler by the producers which I guess is fair enough, but not fair on them, they should have had the opportunity to go last before Susanna and Natalie got to go last twice (Natalie 1 1/2 because of Fri/Sat split of first week
)Abbey is coming off second best to Susanna too. I'm guessing it's becoming more apparent who the chosen few are.
|
|
|
|
|
#57 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 13,160
|
Quote:
Thanks guys.
So the next question I guess is how far running order impacts compared to other factors, if you look at our three survivors of the bottom two (Mark twice, of course and he has been nearer the front end which is supposedly a good slot also) they I think have a spread of slots, but I am not sure if it's really more to do with marking in the case of Abbey and Patrick, people thinking they would be safe. Natalie's got a similar spread of slots to those two, so does the fact that she has been safe mean that she has had her vote hold up for her better than those two? I think it is just too hard to say as things may well change week on week, neither Abbey nor Patrick has ended up in the bottom two more than once so, so far, their bounceback has been sustainable. (Conscious that I am possibly rambling now in order to try and simply say "I think the vote depends on all sorts, running order may or may not be one for some couples") ![]() Hit the opening with a good dance, fill the middle with the average dancers dancing an average to forgetable dance and then finsh off with a couple more big hitters. |
|
|
|
|
|
#58 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 9,514
|
I still don't think it means that much on its own, there are other factors. Though unless the running order changes radically from week to week you can't really tell.
Lies, damned lies and statistics...
|
|
|
|
|
|
#59 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 13,160
|
Quote:
I still don't think it means that much on its own, there are other factors. Though unless the running order changes radically from week to week you can't really tell.
Lies, damned lies and statistics... ![]() |
|
|
|
|
|
#60 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 7,654
|
Running order is a factor, but I don't think it has a huge influence, especially as we're not working under a straight public vote system.
I don't think we know a lot about the public vote from the results so far. Abbey : We know was bottom of the public vote three votes ago, but has had safe leaderboard positions since. Theoretically she could have got no bounce-back whatsoever and still been bottom of the public vote every time without too much twisting. Patrick : Had a bit of a drop three weeks ago, beaten by people whose public vote has since proven to not be consistently strong (Rachel, Mark, Fiona, Dave). Since then, like Abbey, has been kept solidly safe, and again, like Abbey, could have finished bottom with the public every week. Ben : Has proved to be the most popular of the bottom half of the leaderboard, but even then, consistently decent marks and mid-table positions means we can't quite call him a People's Champion yet. Mark : Was clearly somewhat popular early on, but was only consistently beating vote ragamuffins like Vanessa and Julian. The only people still in we know he ever beat are Abbey and Patrick. Sophie : Has survived a few dodgy slots that might have taken her if she had no vote, but nothing spectacular. Susanna : Next to nothing. Natalie & Ashley : Even nexter to nothing. |
|
|
|
|
|
#61 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: In Svalbard with Mr Bear
Posts: 6,253
|
Susanna always manages to get right in the middle of camera in the Tesspit as well. It's like we're not allowed to forget she is there. I wonder if the BBC have got some kind of 'Fiona Bruce' primetime presenting roles for in the pipeline after Strictly and are trying to raise her profile? She always gets good slots, never gets asked to do a 'Goldfinger Rumba' stupid routine and is always high on the leaderboard even though others have danced better than her. Or maybe they know she is quite a divisive celeb and are keeping her in as this year's ratings grabbing Snowdon/DVO finale hate-figure? (Btw, 'Hate-figure' is just a turn-of-phrase. I don't believe people actually hate her).
|
|
|
|
|
|
#62 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 9,514
|
Quote:
Susanna always manages to get right in the middle of camera in the Tesspit as well. It's like we're not allowed to forget she is there. I wonder if the BBC have got some kind of 'Fiona Bruce' primetime presenting roles for in the pipeline after Strictly and are trying to raise her profile? She always gets good slots, never gets asked to do a 'Goldfinger Rumba' stupid routine and is always high on the leaderboard even though others have danced better than her. Or maybe they know she is quite a divisive celeb and are keeping her in as this year's ratings grabbing Snowdon/DVO finale hate-figure? (Btw, 'Hate-figure' is just a turn-of-phrase. I don't believe people actually hate her).
|
|
|
|
|
|
#63 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 25,462
|
The conspiracy theorists are having a field day!
The BBC are so worried about scandals nowadays that I cannot see them risking accusations of favouritism in running order or seating position in the Tess Pit. |
|
|
|
|
|
#64 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,012
|
Quote:
But Louis Smith was very marmite on this board. It's just unlike this year with Natalie, the "He/She Eats Babies" threads were spread out between Louis, Denise and Victoria.
There were some nasty posts about Sophie in the weeks following her charleston but it seems to have died down and now she seems to be generally well liked but in a "like her but not her dancing" way. I suspect that people have stopped bothering to be nasty about her because she's no longer regarded as a serious contender. I guess Sophie has been in a few precarious positions and survived but I'm not sure she's popular enough to carry her through to the final if her dancing doesn't improve. I don't think women on Strictly are able to coast by on being very pretty and very nice. |
|
|
|
|
|
#65 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,389
|
I'm an Abbey fan, but if she is anything other than last or second to last in the public vote I'd be surprised. Fully expecting her to be back in the dance off this week.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#66 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 68,698
|
Quote:
Susanna .....
..... never gets asked to do a 'Goldfinger Rumba' stupid routine Has Natalie ever been asked to do a 'Goldfinger Rumba' stupid routine? Or Patrick? Or Sophie? Or Abbey? As conspiracy theories go, a creditable one. |
|
|
|
|
|
#67 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 4,283
|
Quote:
There were some nasty posts about Sophie in the weeks following her charleston but it seems to have died down and now she seems to be generally well liked but in a "like her but not her dancing" way. I suspect that people have stopped bothering to be nasty about her because she's no longer regarded as a serious contender.
![]() Think that people have realised that hitting on her is like clubbing a baby seal to death, so you have to be creative. Quote:
I guess Sophie has been in a few precarious positions and survived but I'm not sure she's popular enough to carry her through to the final if her dancing doesn't improve. I don't think women on Strictly are able to coast by on being very pretty and very nice.
We are long past Halloween, except for the end of that VT obviously. |
|
|
|
|
|
#68 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: England 🐱
Posts: 12,902
|
Quote:
Susanna always manages to get right in the middle of camera in the Tesspit as well. It's like we're not allowed to forget she is there. I wonder if the BBC have got some kind of 'Fiona Bruce' primetime presenting roles for in the pipeline after Strictly and are trying to raise her profile? She always gets good slots, never gets asked to do a 'Goldfinger Rumba' stupid routine and is always high on the leaderboard even though others have danced better than her. Or maybe they know she is quite a divisive celeb and are keeping her in as this year's ratings grabbing Snowdon/DVO finale hate-figure? (Btw, 'Hate-figure' is just a turn-of-phrase. I don't believe people actually hate her).
Discuss. ![]() ![]()
|
|
|
|
|
|
#69 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 4,283
|
Not so much the public vote, but here is how DS has voted in the polls on the forum this weekend (as of now):
Susanna + 228 (265 - 37) Sophie + 78 (94 - 16) Ashley + 36 (50 - 14) Patrick + 22 (37 - 15) Abbey + 10 (55 - 45) Natalie - 19 (91 - 110) Mark -54 (19 - 73) Ben - 62 (17 - 79) Doesn't say that much, as for instance Ben is probably doing a lot better in the vote (assume that in these instances the 1 vote is going to Susanna/Natalie instead). But apart from him, it might be a fair image of how the public vote is going (though do you take the saldo or do you look at the favourite couple votes, very important in Natalie's case). Though this does show that Natalie is very polarising and as it seems would be easily beaten by Susanna at this point (no matter what kind of calculation you would use). It will be interesting to see if the semi-final vote is decided by dance off or not (if that is not the case then the judges will have to throw someone to the wolves or just create another votegate..........everybody lives!!).. |
|
|
|
|
|
#70 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 15,443
|
Quote:
I think this does show you who's in favour with producers and who isn't. Patrick wasn't to start and now is getting much better positions, Ashley and Sophie are generally getting worse, Mark and Ben are obviously considered filler by the producers which I guess is fair enough, but not fair on them, they should have had the opportunity to go last before Susanna and Natalie got to go last twice (Natalie 1 1/2 because of Fri/Sat split of first week
)Abbey is coming off second best to Susanna too. I'm guessing it's becoming more apparent who the chosen few are. ![]()
|
|
|
|
|
|
#71 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 22,553
|
But you could argue Susanna's slots are the best because she is fairing well in the public vote and BBC give Viewers the peak slot for her as they know she is one of the celebs most viewers look forward to seeing.
Also same with Sophie and Dave. (Near start or near end) |
|
|
|
|
|
#72 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 22,553
|
I still think whatever slot you get the worst is obviously 2nd. Because you tend to be forgettable and just after the person who opened the show.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#73 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 8,811
|
Quote:
I still think whatever slot you get the worst is obviously 2nd. Because you tend to be forgettable and just after the person who opened the show.
1 21 2 36 3 29 4 22 5 23 6 13 7 14 8 6 9 5 10 5 11 1 12 + none. (In case of two dances in a week the first time dancing is counted. In those instances going first is worse than second.) |
|
|
|
|
|
#74 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 22,553
|
Quote:
It is, quick stats from series 1 showing the bottom 2 or straight elimination positions from the running order (no finals)
1 21 2 36 3 29 4 22 5 23 6 13 7 14 8 6 9 5 10 5 11 1 12 + none. (In case of two dances in a week the first time dancing is counted. In those instances going first is worse than second.) BBC gave Ann Widdecombe it for 2 weeks in a row I think to try and get her off the show when her time was obviously up. |
|
|
|
|
|
#75 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,922
|
I said on another thread that being talked about good or bad is better than not being talked about at all. I find it interesting that there are more threads about Austin Healey than Ashley, Ben & Patrick, although there have been a few more stabs at getting Patrick talked about that seemed to die off. The 'buzz' this year is all about the 4 girls. Love em or hate em.
![]() Just watch one of the boys win it now
|
|
|
![]() |
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 22:26.






