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Old 18-11-2013, 01:18
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With the hit of "The Night of the Doctor", a lot of people are asking for more Eighth Doctor. Most of these request asking for a series detailing events before his regeneration into the War Doctor.

If we were to get a series with Eight, dealing with his life before he crashed back on Karn, what sort of things would like to see out of a series like this?
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Old 18-11-2013, 01:22
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It would be great if some of his Big Finish companions could be part of a television series with eight. Would love to see Paul and Sheridan on screen just once for example!

I wonder if Big Finish will get to explore Eight's role in the early years of the Time War? Perhaps showing him objecting to the war, refusing to fight, but like he tried to do with Cass, help the "little people" along the way? I've not heard all the Big Finish audios, so not sure if the origins of the Time War have been mentioned at all yet?
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Old 18-11-2013, 07:51
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I wonder if Big Finish will get to explore Eight's role in the early years of the Time War? Perhaps showing him objecting to the war, refusing to fight, but like he tried to do with Cass, help the "little people" along the way? I've not heard all the Big Finish audios, so not sure if the origins of the Time War have been mentioned at all yet?
I haven't listened to every one of the Paul McGann audio's. but I don't think they have ever mentioned the Timewar - it's not Big Finish Canon, plus it's in the Eight Doctor's future so how can he know about it?

Much as I would like to see a live action series with him, I don't know how they could use the same assistants - a tiny tiny fraction of Fandom listen to the audios, and the General public have mostly never known of them at all - so a complete reintroduction of every existing re-used character would have to be shot - not really practical.

But a Mini-series of stand alone episodes and arcs would be great.

I am not sure the BBC has the money to do it without withering the budget for the main series ultimately. These are not cheap to produce and in real terms the Beeb is slowly dying from cuts and politics and public animosity.
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Old 18-11-2013, 08:17
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I haven't listened to every one of the Paul McGann audio's. but I don't think they have ever mentioned the Timewar - it's not Big Finish Canon, plus it's in the Eight Doctor's future so how can he know about it?
Big Finish's FAQ explicitly states that they can't feature the Time War because their license doesn't allow them to feature anything from the new series, only from the Classic series (the first 8 Doctors).

Having said that, it doesn't mean that it's not Big Finish Canon. The Gallifrey series neatly side-stepped the issue by having all the main characters hop off to alternate universes with alternate versions of Gallifrey and I think a few references in stories have hinted at it.
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Old 18-11-2013, 10:05
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It's quite possible that the bulk of the Big Finish stories happened before the main bit of the Time War. In some ways it's good that they can't cover the Time War, as it leaves room for further TV adventures.

Have posted this in other threads, there's a petition for more McGann episodes that now has over 8000 signatures https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitio...tor-adventures
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Old 18-11-2013, 11:23
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There's two main ways they could do an 8th Doctor Series/mini series.


Set it during his Big Finish years either adapting existing stories or create new ones but with the same companions.

If they did something like Sherlock with three 90 min episodes a year they could feature a different companion in each episode (so we jump around the Doctors Timeline a bit).


One possible obstacle with this idea is do the actors who play the BF companions actually look like the characters. For example I've no idea exactly how old she is but I'm pretty sure actress India Fisher is somewhat older than her character Charley.



The other way would be to set it in the early years of the Time War which would place it after the Big Finish adventures but would probably require a new companion.




Speaking of the early years of the war we can now be fairly sure it was the 8th Doctor who tried to save Davros from the Nightmare Child which happened in the first year of the War.
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Old 18-11-2013, 11:33
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We've only seen the Eighth Doctor on screen just after his regeneration/just before his 'death'. I'm afraid I don't really 'do' Big Finish (one day, mind. One day.) so don't know the chronology apart from that, but the sky really is the limit here, I suspect. Only lack of imagination/budget, etc.

Would love to see more McGann. Can you imagine him and Capaldi in an episode together?

(Long pause. Reverie.)

Yep, I can.
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Old 18-11-2013, 13:09
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How about a joint effort between BBC America and Netflix, Doctor Who-the missing years.

That way you can set it anywhere between the events of the TV movie and the night of the Doctor thereby not limiting yourself to the time war.

By it being through NF and BBCA it is a commercial venture so wouldn't require licience payers money in the same way so shouldn't impact on the main series.

BTW anyone else want a pint of whatever magic potion PM drinks everyday, does the man never age lol.

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Old 18-11-2013, 14:51
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How about a joint effort between BBC America and Netflix, Doctor Who-the missing years.

That way you can set it anywhere between the events of the TV movie and the night of the Doctor thereby not limiting yourself to the time war.

By it being through NF and BBCA it is a commercial venture so wouldn't require licience payers money in the same way so shouldn't impact on the main series.

BTW anyone else want a pint of whatever magic potion PM drinks everyday, does the man never age lol.

Ali x
That could work the only problem I could see with that is, if bbca worked with Netflix or some other outside source, then there is a chance that the BBC would consider this competition for the main show, that if successful might lead to the main show suffering a loss of profit and also the secondry partner(netflix) wanting to create a full series to rival the BBC original.

the best way around this would be to get BBCA to co-produce the show in conjunction with BBCWORLDWIDE,or whatever the comercial arm of th beeb is called these days, that way BBC america gets homegrown content( something it is making big advances in at the moment) and BBCWW gets something it can sell on dvd and to other countries before making it available for BBC television to show it in the uk.

Not sure of this makes sense to anyone else but I know what I mean..lol
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Old 18-11-2013, 16:36
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It would be awesome if it could be done and I think it could be. There has been a lot of talk about a series and if it continues the BBC may see an opportunity to expand their biggest earner and if, like some people think, Doctor Who is going to end soon due to the regeneration limit (which we wont go into) then it would be a great stepping stone to keep the show alive in one form.

And it would very likely come under Moffat's territory like SJA was under RTD's control and with Moffat already at the head of Doctor Who and Sherlock, two very big shows globally for the BBC, and a Sherlock style series of 3 1hr episodes would probably work really well for a mini-series/spinoff that at the same time can't overshadow the big boy!
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Old 18-11-2013, 16:55
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How about a joint effort between BBC America and Netflix, Doctor Who-the missing years.

That way you can set it anywhere between the events of the TV movie and the night of the Doctor thereby not limiting yourself to the time war.

By it being through NF and BBCA it is a commercial venture so wouldn't require licience payers money in the same way so shouldn't impact on the main series.

BTW anyone else want a pint of whatever magic potion PM drinks everyday, does the man never age lol.

Ali x
Australia could be a perfect opportunity. http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2013/11...ustralian.html
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Old 18-11-2013, 17:22
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Such a series would inevitably force comparisons, favourable and unfavourable, with the work of Peter Capaldi and Steven Moffat. Being the current Doctor or the current Doctor Who Showrunner are highly prestigious positions in British television. So I very much doubt Capaldi and Moffat would want to do what's essentially a timeshare with a rival production.

The most we can realistically expect is a Doctor Lite or another multi-Doctor story from the incumbent production team at some point in the future.
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Old 18-11-2013, 17:36
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I would like any possible McGann miniseries to show his efforts to help those affected by the war - as someone said 'the little people' - and being a good man.

After all, in a real war the medics (doctors) do not fight, they help to heal the ravages of war. I think Eight would do the same.
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Old 18-11-2013, 19:33
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Such a series would inevitably force comparisons, favourable and unfavourable, with the work of Peter Capaldi and Steven Moffat. Being the current Doctor or the current Doctor Who Showrunner are highly prestigious positions in British television. So I very much doubt Capaldi and Moffat would want to do what's essentially a timeshare with a rival production.

The most we can realistically expect is a Doctor Lite or another multi-Doctor story from the incumbent production team at some point in the future.
This.

I can't see having two rival Doctor Who programs would work.

Any series of Paul McGann's doctor would probably have to be midweek on BBC Three in a very different format, a different theme tune and a different title - it couldn't be called "Doctor Who".

I don't see it happening, as much as I'd like it.
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Old 18-11-2013, 20:02
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What about the season numbering?

If Series 1 is "Season" 27 then would this be Season 26b?
...In which case what about the movie?

I propose we call it "season twenty six and a bit and another bit" to avoid confusion

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Old 18-11-2013, 20:16
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A lovely idea, but I can't see it working for the reasons already mentioned in this thread.

However, I see no reason whatsoever why we can't have another (current) Doctor-lite adventure (i.e. like Blink) which refers back to McGann's Doctor and an adventure on the same planet/with the same adversary; etc. Ideally with Lucie Miller as that particular assistant (and the same actress who played her in the audio books, which in itself would guarantee a lot of media/public interest above the average Dr Who episode)....

Maybe they could get an episode like this prepared and written for 2016, as that would be McGann's 20th anniversary of the TV movie; and give his Doctor the proper (45 minute) fanfare / thank you his Doctor truly deserves.
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Old 18-11-2013, 21:14
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I think that they missed the boat a bit. If they did a few specials before the 50th episode it would have been great but You can't have two doctors running at the same time. But what they can do is to have PM version interact with PD in the 15th season or something That would work.
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Old 18-11-2013, 23:50
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What if this eighth Doctor show took the form of specials /miniseries, so that it wouldn't be an ongoing rival to the main show? Also, what if the show featured the eighth Doctor, but was not solely about him, and was more of an ensemble spin-off about the Time War in general? They could call it 'The Time War', or 'Fall of Gallifrey', or 'Last Days of the Time Lords', for example. Surely these things would neatly sidestep the issues associated with having two Doctor Who series.
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Old 19-11-2013, 14:54
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I think that they missed the boat a bit. If they did a few specials before the 50th episode it would have been great but You can't have two doctors running at the same time. But what they can do is to have PM version interact with PD in the 15th season or something That would work.
A web series would work. Solving any problem of interfering with the new Peter Capaldi series. They could have it available before series 8 begins. And if successful make another series of adventures for when series 8 is off air. I don't think it will steal any of Peter Capaldi's thunder as he is clearly going to be great.

Lots of fans would love to see 8th get more screen time. If they made the web series available on DVD after if had its run I am convinced it would sell very well and make them a lot of money.
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Old 19-11-2013, 16:36
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A web series would work. Solving any problem of interfering with the new Peter Capaldi series. They could have it available before series 8 begins. And if successful make another series of adventures for when series 8 is off air. I don't think it will steal any of Peter Capaldi's thunder as he is clearly going to be great.

Lots of fans would love to see 8th get more screen time. If they made the web series available on DVD after if had its run I am convinced it would sell very well and make them a lot of money.
But to do do the Time War any justice they would need a pretty big budget, so a we series wouldn't really work.
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Old 19-11-2013, 18:37
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A web series would work. Solving...... If they made the web series available on DVD after if had its run I am convinced it would sell very well and make them a lot of money.


I think maybe a web/minsode red button type thing with 10 min episodes showing 8 with the 'villian of the week' so if capaldi meets some new to nuwho but old to the doctor and says 'we must stop meeting like this' we can see 8 meet them. Each week released online or on red button...then put it all together as extra footage on another DVD would be nice....just saying like....
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Old 20-11-2013, 01:07
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I think eight episodes for the eighth Doctor would be a marvellous thing.

A Whovian can dream.
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