Apple claim its Samsungs fault that Apple are no longer seen as a Great Innovator

So they will compromise, just like every other phone provider.

It is stating the obvious that if they make a bigger phone, it will mean the one hand usability will be compromised. That doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.

Also, if they can find a way of embedding the fingerprint sensor into the screen, that may be a solution.

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Do you think a patent means anything, so that is where you got your ludicrous idea from

Apple would patent breathing if they could. Many many things have be mentioned as possibly being hidden under a screen.

The fact you can't see the difference between a patent and real world inception of something makes my whole point. All you do is read things you have no understanding of then regurgitate them as if they are your ideas.

However to be absolutely clear are you saying this is able to or about to be realised.

I've re-quoted what I said just in case you didn't see if the first time.

The fact you keep trying to tell me what I do and don't understand makes you look like and idiot and a troll.

What is clear is you are saying it isn't possible, and although you haven't explained why, we will assume that you really can look into the future

swordman · 26-11-2013, 18:15

Of course lets not forget the more pertinent posts shall we, or have you stooped to tweaking conversations now.

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So they will compromise, just like every other phone provider.................
Also, if they can find a way of embedding the fingerprint sensor into the screen, that may be a solution.

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Not before such screen technology moved on at which point it may be pointless anyway.

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Screen technology is constantly moving on, just like every other technology.

Don't understand the pointless comment.

As I said in my initial response which you clearly thought nonsense, by the time such tech is available it will not be relevant to the current iphone. It may be able to be utilised under different screen tech, so possibly plastic screens etc Any such time this tech is available it will be totally irrelevant for the purposes of this conversation.

From the article you linked to:

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Touch ID enabled touchscreens are still probably several years away. There’s simply too much of technology integration and development to be done, to make it work seamlessly

As i said initially.

But to be clear I believe this is about the third time you have mentioned this nonsense in various threads. Your refusal to answer clearly shows it is not viable tech and will not be viable until way after any decision is taken by apple to enlarge the screen. So for the relevance to any conversation here or a while into the future iphone 6/7 it is nonsense and has no relevance. So your claim this may be a solution to one handed usability is ******** as usual.

However feel free to keep showing yourself to be a clueless as you already appear

kidspud · 26-11-2013, 18:40

My refusal to answer what? You have linked to my conversations regarding this. It is only you that have said this will not be possible.

I see no reason why it shouldn't be possible.

With regards to my "pointless comment" post, you may wish to re-read it as it doesn't mean what you think (although I do find it funny having re-read it.).

Stuart_h · 26-11-2013, 18:57

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http://www.unwiredview.com/2013/11/2...-a-patent-app/

Looks like they are already thinking about embedding touch id into the screen.

Swordman should drop them a line and tell them it isn't possible.

innovation ???

or copying .....

kidspud · 26-11-2013, 18:59

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innovation ???

or copying .....

Cannot be copying. We've already been told by the self appointed technical expert that it is not possible.

Looks like we are well on for the third strike in a thread as I predicted

Stuart_h · 26-11-2013, 19:10

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Cannot be copying. We've already been told by the self appointed technical expert that it is not possible.

Looks like we are well on for the third strike in a thread as I predicted

but this is what i cant figure out..... its been demo'd .... but now Apple patent it ???

Stiggles · 26-11-2013, 19:23

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but this is what i cant figure out..... its been demo'd .... but now Apple patent it ???

And for that reason apple should be denied the patent. But, I bet they get it.....

swordman · 26-11-2013, 19:24

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My refusal to answer what? You have linked to my conversations regarding this. It is only you that have said this will not be possible.

I see no reason why it shouldn't be possible.

With regards to my "pointless comment" post, you may wish to re-read it as it doesn't mean what you think (although I do find it funny having re-read it.).

Yes your refusal to answer whether this is about to be or can be implemented in an iphone?

If it cannot at present or within the next generation or two, then your assertion that it will overcome the issue about one handed usability is nonsense.

Well you may think it is possible and be a solution to the one handed usability problem, those of us with any intelligence realise for now it simply is not.

As mentioned nor does the site you have linked to in addition to one of your 'bible' sites
http://9to5mac.com/2013/07/18/apple-...tness-experts/

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however, that the technology to implement the sensor into a display will only be available multiple years into the future

But by all means continue to tell us how this will be implemented into current tech and how it will overcome the one handed use issue

swordman · 26-11-2013, 19:28

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innovation ???

or copying .....

As I have mentioned to the less well informed to try and avoid further embarrassment to him. There has been rumours etc of various tech being embedded behind the screen, however as always only when apple mention it can it be real to some

kidspud · 26-11-2013, 19:38

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As I have mentioned to the less well informed to try and avoid further embarrassment to him. There has been rumours etc of various tech being embedded behind the screen, however as always only when apple mention it can it be real to some

Desperate.

swordman · 26-11-2013, 19:40

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but this is what i cant figure out..... its been demo'd .... but now Apple patent it ???

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And for that reason apple should be denied the patent. But, I bet they get it.....

You would have to read the 600+ apple patent application to be sure but swipe as demo'd and what apple propose are different.

It is, or at least was, proving difficult to get a retina scanner under the screen as well. We shall see how samsung implement it if indeed they do have one on their next phone or two.

swordman · 26-11-2013, 19:41

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Desperate.

You are yes very! and have also be proven to be talking b****** yet again

kidspud · 26-11-2013, 19:41

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but this is what i cant figure out..... its been demo'd .... but now Apple patent it ???

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And for that reason apple should be denied the patent. But, I bet they get it.....

It will depend on what they are trying to patent.

The article says it has been rejected in its current form anyway.

From the video it looks like an interesting piece of tech.

kidspud · 26-11-2013, 19:42

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You are yes very! and have also be proven to be talking b****** yet again

You keep going. There is a chance we can make it 4

swordman · 26-11-2013, 19:47

Aww don't you want to tell us more about your theories for solving the one handed use problem?? No? ok then, you have a little rest now

Perhaps you can unearth another patent soon and pass it off as some great idea of yours.

But to clarify

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however, that the technology to implement the sensor into a display will only be available multiple years into the future

kidspud · 26-11-2013, 19:55

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Aww don't you want to tell us more about your theories for solving the one handed use problem?? No? ok then, you have a little rest now

Perhaps you can unearth another patent soon and pass it off as some great idea of yours.

But to clarify

Try and keep some integrity. I have not tried to pass anything off as my idea and I have made no mention of timescales. That is all in your mind and lying about what I have said just shows you for what you are.

I am sorry that you claim that the tech wasn't possible was proved wrong so quickly, but you really shouldn't get so upset.

swordman · 26-11-2013, 19:59

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Try and keep some integrity. I have not tried to pass anything off as my idea and I have made no mention of timescales. That is all in your mind and lying about what I have said just shows you for what you are.

Could have saved yourself all the embarrassment if you have revealed you had stumbled upon a patent. You could have been set right straight away, instead of this desperate stumbling around your now doing.

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I am sorry that you claim that the tech wasn't possible was proved wrong so quickly, but you really shouldn't get so upset.

Really was it, you have to show me that! I do hope you don't mean the link above do you? you just don't know when to quit do you

kidspud · 26-11-2013, 22:03

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Could have saved yourself all the embarrassment if you have revealed you had stumbled upon a patent. You could have been set right straight away, instead of this desperate stumbling around your now doing.

Really was it, you have to show me that! I do hope you don't mean the link above do you? you just don't know when to quit do you

You seem really upset. You seem to be having problems following the thread. This is very amusing.

Keep going.

calico_pie · 26-11-2013, 22:05

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Actually 383 million results came back!

So did you only read the first 40,000 or so?

swordman · 26-11-2013, 22:12

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You seem really upset. You seem to be having problems following the thread. This is very amusing.

Keep going.

yes your constant new ways of humiliating yourself is really upsetting me, tell me more of your stories about Apple patents, that will have me in tears. When can we expect your one handed use solution to be mainstream any idea.

Your only hope at this stage is that CP will come and rescue you

calico_pie · 26-11-2013, 22:37

Nobody needs rescuing from me.

KS made some comment about the possibility of incorporating touch ID into the screen.

And since then, as far as I can tell, you've been rambling almost incomprehensibly about it being some sort of claim on KS's part. Which, as is obvious to anyone other than you, wasn't the case.

kidspud · 26-11-2013, 22:37

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yes your constant new ways of humiliating yourself is really upsetting me, tell me more of your stories about Apple patents, that will have me in tears. When can we expect your one handed use solution to be mainstream any idea.

Your only hope at this stage is that CP will come and rescue you

What on earth do you think I need rescuing from, you?

I really do wonder what you think you have proved. So far all you seem to have done is lied about what I said.

I'm sorry if someone posting a video of the tech in action showed you up a little, but you really shouldn't let it get to you.

swordman · 26-11-2013, 23:20

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What on earth do you think I need rescuing from, you?

I really do wonder what you think you have proved. So far all you seem to have done is lied about what I said.

I'm sorry if someone posting a video of the tech in action showed you up a little, but you really shouldn't let it get to you.

Oh you didn't did you, yep you did? You've only gone and tweaked what you said.

So when you said above that embedding the finger print sensor into the screen would provide an answer to the one handed issue. You didn't mean the current scanner, you actually meant any old finger print scanner, oh dear.

Not in fact the new and improved finger print scanner that everyone loves so much. You meant a normal swipe scanner not the fixed instantaneous apple scanner so loved by Apple users of this forum, both for its innovation and implementation the like of which man had never seen.

But then in providing a link to an apple patent application in a failed attempt to save you. You actually meant the scanner as demonstrated by Samsung several months ago not the patent application one. When you said if apple can find a way to embed the scanner behind the screen, you actually meant copy the tech that was demonstrated, not embed the current scanner.

As you have now reached a new low in humiliating yourself I think I will refrain (for your own sake) in actually bothering to converse with you. Shocking, even I feel for you

tdenson · 26-11-2013, 23:44

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