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Ian - Unfair Treatment
I love how the writers have tweaked this storyline to make Ian appear as vile as possible.
Denise laid into Ian for all his lying, when the ONLY selfish thing he did was to continue with the lie to SAVE his relationship with her, of course he was wrong, but that should show Denise how much she means to him. The threat to Ian's life and that of his kids was very real, why is this being ironed over, a man had threatened him, thats why he was 'letting an innocent man go down' And that the only reason he didn't testify was because he was 'thrown into a van'...he was bound! gagged! thrown into a van! driven to abandoned quarry and humiliated! He hasn't even gone into detail of what happened to him and thats to be commended. Ian didn't stand idly by and let Peter take a beating, the threat to Peter was always there and Carl carried it out, the threat existed before the beating and it existed after it. I know he's a wimp and a weasel, but he had genuine motives to lie in this case, I defy anyone to put the safety of themselves and their children ahead of another man. |
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I love how the writers have tweaked this storyline to make Ian appear as vile as possible.
Denise laid into Ian for all his lying, when the ONLY selfish thing he did was to continue with the lie to SAVE his relationship with her, of course he was wrong, but that should show Denise how much she means to him. The threat to Ian's life and that of his kids was very real, why is this being ironed over, a man had threatened him, thats why he was 'letting an innocent man go down' And that the only reason he didn't testify was because he was 'thrown into a van'...he was bound! gagged! thrown into a van! driven to abandoned quarry and humiliated! He hasn't even gone into detail of what happened to him and thats to be commended. Ian didn't stand idly by and let Peter take a beating, the threat to Peter was always there and Carl carried it out, the threat existed before the beating and it existed after it. I know he's a wimp and a weasel, but he had genuine motives to lie in this case, I defy anyone to put the safety of themselves and their children ahead of another man. Just saying. |
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Ian should never have admitted he found the money in the first place leaving himself open to blackmail. He should have denied and kept on denying, then threatened Carl with the police for harassment. Carl could not prove he had his money or in fact that the money was his and not Derek's. For all Carl knew Derek could have spent his money and Ian could have got the money from another source, it couldn't be proved it was Carl's.
The threat to his kids was real but should you let scrum rule your life or call the police? |
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The 'police'! Come on...that's naive. There's no proof Carl has done anything, and even if he is arrested, he can still arrange for his threats to be carried out.
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I CAN understand why Ian kept his trap shut.
But on the other hand I can also understand exactly why that would make him look like the bad guy, and I completely understand why others would be pissed at him. I'd be pissed if I were in their shoes. |
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Ian was lying to protect his family. Lauren's comment to Peter yesterday was laughable she said "you'd let my dad go down to protect your own?" Err yes, his dad dies or Max a man he hardly knows goes to prison not exactly a difficult choice. Max got himself into that ridiculous situation and just like Ian he cowardly gave in to Carl's demands and broke up with Kirsty and lied that he was guilty. So his actions were just as cowardly as Ian's although he was worse as he managed to get himself locked up and was prepared to go down for years, all Ian had to do was tell a lie.
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... or he could have gone to the Police and said that Carl was blackmailing him over some money, which Ian had found while renovating his restaurant and spent, not realising it belonged to Carl (so it was probably stolen anyway), and is forcing him to lie in court through violence and coercion, that he had physically assaulted him by burning his hand and hurt his son because he found out what was going on, and that he was really sorry he lied, but he was scared for his family...
Just saying. From a moral and society pov I agree that the right and sensible thing to do was go to the Police but I can see why Ian would have been scared to and think it would make the situation worse. I agree with the OP, they are now painting it to make Ian look as bad as possible. He didn'tbstand back and allow Peter to be beaten, he was so-operating to try and prevent it. Peter went to Carl off his own back, at which point Carl decided to show them he wasn't bluffing in his threats. They always make Ian look as weasly and bad as possible and as if he deserves to be humiliated, scared, beaten etc. |
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Ian was lying to protect his family. Lauren's comment to Peter yesterday was laughable she said "you'd let my dad go down to protect your own?" Err yes, his dad dies or Max a man he hardly knows goes to prison not exactly a difficult choice. Max got himself into that ridiculous situation and just like Ian he cowardly gave in to Carl's demands and broke up with Kirsty and lied that he was guilty. So his actions were just as cowardly as Ian's although he was worse as he managed to get himself locked up and was prepared to go down for years, all Ian had to do was tell a lie.
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I love how the writers have tweaked this storyline to make Ian appear as vile as possible.
Denise laid into Ian for all his lying, when the ONLY selfish thing he did was to continue with the lie to SAVE his relationship with her, of course he was wrong, but that should show Denise how much she means to him. The threat to Ian's life and that of his kids was very real, why is this being ironed over, a man had threatened him, thats why he was 'letting an innocent man go down' And that the only reason he didn't testify was because he was 'thrown into a van'...he was bound! gagged! thrown into a van! driven to abandoned quarry and humiliated! He hasn't even gone into detail of what happened to him and thats to be commended. Ian didn't stand idly by and let Peter take a beating, the threat to Peter was always there and Carl carried it out, the threat existed before the beating and it existed after it. I know he's a wimp and a weasel, but he had genuine motives to lie in this case, I defy anyone to put the safety of themselves and their children ahead of another man. |
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I do agree that Ian seems as bad at respecting a woman for her own self and maintaining a healthy, equal partnership with her as men like Phil. He is repeatedly attracted to these strong, independent, very attractive women (with the possible exception of Laura but Ian was never that into her anyway) and then proceeds to treat them no respect, no right to k ow what is going on or form their own opinions and as near slave labour.
But that doesn't alter the fact that I think he very much loves them in his own way and in this particular instance, he has acted the way he has our of fear, both for himself and his family. But, and big but, he shouldn't have taken the money in the first place. Though I suspect that carl would still have identified him as an easy mark (because he is) early on and lent on him. |
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With respect, absolute cobblers. Ian made it perfectly clear that he is incapable of having an equal relationship with a woman where he trusts her and shares confidences with her. Instead, he thinks he can make decisions for her in terms of what she is allowed to know, allowed to do and allowed to be. A scumbag weasel. Having said that, I now loathe Denise for being with him.
If Ian had informed Denise of the threat to him, she would have insisted he tell the police, after which Carl would then be questioned and with no evidence to prove these statements, Carl could then carry out his threat. That's why she couldn't know. |
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Carl's still on parole/license, isn't he? So when he battered Peter they could have had him sent back to jail. In fact, when he burnt Ian's hand he could have gone back to jail. Or when he was dangerous driving on a motorway full of witnesses who saw him driving erratically.
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I can understand why Ian did all he could to protect his family, but there were things he could have done. He could have told Phil and he could have recorded Carl's threats on his phone. My beef is that he didn't come clean with Denise once the truth was out because he wanted to look like the good guy.
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Carl should have been immediately locked up as soon as a complaint was made (as Bianca was last year) but the show always seems to forget about this stuff when convenient. For instance, although the Police were called with complaints about Derek, he managed to get out of it and just come after Michael and David (who'd set him up) harder. Plus, Even if locked up, carl could get associates to hurt people for him and Ian would probably be scared of that.
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