What a lovely dancing/performing couple they are. I could watch him happily for a couple more weeks. It is a painful injury too so all respect to him.

Annoying though when it's being said that it shouldn't be mentioned because it might make Natalie look bad and that a celebs lack of dance training shouldn't be mentioned for the same reason. It's not all about Natalie and it seems they, quite rightly, want to keep her on the show anyway.

Err..

If you'd noticed I put "popping out" in inverted commas, so that those unaware of the problems would understand better. Yes the the strapping keeps the lower half of the joint supported and prevents excessive movement causing pain from the grinding action. The cartilage can also become partially detached.
If you don't agree, ask your own doctor.

Yes, he is a trooper. I was wondering what was going on with his knees. I guess it's good to hear if from the horse's mouth so to speak. I don't agree that he is playing a late sympathy card because I don't think that's in his nature. It also explains why he can't do lifts etc. Loving his relationship with Iveta, too. Hope they are both on the tour ( if his knees can stand it) but I have a feeling that Craig doesn't want him. Strange because he's a much better all round entertainer than Lisa Riley.

Nobody has said that it should not be mentioned, its just a wee bit strange that all the other injuries (there have been quite a few) were not discussed or dramatised as were Natalie's.Why not discuss Mark's injuries at the time, as for the ever mentioned lack of dance experience....its become like a stuck record and may not even be the truth.

Lack of dance experience is always mentioned, every series. And I've no idea why Mark's injuries weren't mentioned at the time but I'm glad that finally we know why he cant do lifts etc.

There have been complaints of it being mentioned if you read back.

Nice back track. I think what I have written is not only accurate it is easily understood by the average FM.

Why don't we go with what we know

Mark has said he is wearing knee braces because he has torn his cartilage.

I think it is always better to remain grounded in reality rather than invent things.

How nasty but then typical of a certain persons supporter, and he said he would go bottomless not topless

Lets face it she is not slow and telling us about her ill health is she ...

I too am glad that we know what Mark's issues are, but I would have liked to have known at the time it happened as I always thought it was unfair of them to focus on Natalie's injuries as it was obvious she just wanted to get on with it.
All her interviews on ITT were dominated by questions regarding her health and injuries.My complaints are not with Mark in any way but with the production team singling her out for all the drama when there appears to have been quite a few injuries.

You do know that Monkseal was making fun of that sort of post don't you

Or are you making fun of Monkseal making fun and it's just whooshed over my head

They had to the week before last though as she had a by, so I doubt anyone would look on her less favourably due to that.

Mark's a pretty chatty tweeter too. Makes his reticence on this subject the more remarkable. A couple of the celebrities and Pros have really come across well this series.

I agree 100%. It still doesn't make me feel comfortable about the timing. Just maybe manipulated by the producers.


Behave you!


Yes, I meant Zoe! The judges shouldn't take it into consideration when marking though, except to perhaps accept it as the reason why some elements of a dance might be missing (like lifts in the AS). They score what they see - or they should do, but this series shows anything can happen.


No one is saying it shouldn't be mentioned.

I did clarify my comment to Pices further up the thread.

So glad he lasted until now! Hope he gets his knee sorted out after the show. I mean, he has to do Hairspray, like every weeknight?

*RESPECT*

Sorry, I didn't realise that's what you meant. Must admit I thought Mark's weight would be the reason he didn't do any lifts. Personally I don't think his routines have suffered from lack of lifts, etc. I think Iveta's choreography for Mark is brilliant, although I hated the CCC and Paso routines. I honestly believe the producers forced her down those routes.

I'm glad he clarified his routine on Saturday night wasn't full of Hairspray moves. Some people will grab at anything to pick fault.

A dig at Robbie Savage!

I'm surprised he hasn't done any lifts, I mean look at the size of Iveta.
I could raise her 6 inches off the ground by just staring at her!

Still put too much strain on the knees I expect

Hey that's fine. I thought his knee supports were down to weight issues too. I hope this week, which I guess is likely to be his last, that he goes out with a bang. I shall miss him.

That was sarcasm Katenutzs.
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Monkseal doesn't mean it, he was being sarcastic. He is very much a fan of Mark & Iveta.....well mostly Iveta

He might hang on a bit longer because he's doing a Foxtrot and his Ballroom has been better than his Latin. At least he's not doing the Quickstep.

I think the problem is that with Natalie her problems have impacted on the show - her non-appearance last week had to be explained and the fact that she'd been in hospital the week her back went and it was a tad touch and go if she was going to be appearing meant they couldn't be under a rug swept - Mark's problems are a bit more run of the mill.

I love both of them - and my comments on another thread and watching people do what I can't runs double for Mark - since I'm overweight then seeing someone who is probably more overweight than me dancing and doing pretty well for a man of his size is inspiring.

Read Monkseal's blog and you'll understand that at least half the time his tongue is pretty firmly in his cheek. Actually read MS's blog anyway if you have not done so already it's a treat.