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Tegra Note £155 (Tegra 4)
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clonmult
21-11-2013
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“That would mean a less than 1 MP photo looks the same as a 2MP photo. And a map showing 12cm by 8cm of detail looks the same as one showing 19cm by 12 cm of detail.

That sounds barely feasible.”

Take a photo on most phones and you'll be between 5 and 16mp. Take a photo on a DSLR and you'll be looking at 20+mp.

Problem with the maps is that showing 19x12cm of detail is great, but some of that text is going to be seriously small. Magnifying glass time.

I don't doubt that regularly sized text will look smoother and on occasion I would appreciate a little more resolution when reading comics on the N7, but I get a feeling that the Tegra4 based devices with 1280x800 will run most games considerably better than the 2013 N7.
alanwarwic
21-11-2013
Originally Posted by clonmult:
“..Magnifying glass time.”

Simply move the tablet towards eyes to enlarge field of view. That is exactly what we do with tiny smartphones.

And it seems simple common sense to want improved clarity of photos, viewed like they mainly are, that being on a screen.
alan1302
21-11-2013
Originally Posted by clonmult:
“And I'm still trying to figure out why everyone seems to be wanting the same resolution screen on their phone/tablet as they do on their TV at home.”

Sharper text when using the net, more web page viewed at one time.
andersonsonson
21-11-2013
I think its unfair to criticise the resolution of the tablet, people try and say no, its a rubbish tablet because at the same time they compare it to latest Ipad retina dispaly. Value for money is important
Voynich
21-11-2013
I've found that on phones and tablets, higher resolution doesn't automatically mean more screen real estate. It seems to adjust the size of things to cope with the higher resolution. So text maybe sharper, but there isn't more room on screen for displaying web pages.
clonmult
21-11-2013
Originally Posted by alan1302:
“Sharper text when using the net, more web page viewed at one time.”

Oh aye, thats useful.

A website that looks good on my 24" screen at work will render exactly the same on a 7" tablet screen. With all that unbelievably small writing.

Aye, really, really useful. And yes, my eyesight is pretty good.

Voynich seems to understand this, others ... do not and just get driven by specs, nothing but specs.
alan1302
21-11-2013
Originally Posted by andersonsonson:
“I think its unfair to criticise the resolution of the tablet, people try and say no, its a rubbish tablet because at the same time they compare it to latest Ipad retina dispaly. Value for money is important”

It's a perfect valid thing to criticise.

I don't think anyone has said that it's a rubbish tablet - I just said that the resolution is poor for the money.

Value for money is important but I want a higher resolution screen for that money - that's just my point of view.
andersonsonson
21-11-2013
what better resolution can I get for £150 with Tegra 4 speed?
alan1302
21-11-2013
Originally Posted by clonmult:
“Oh aye, thats useful.

A website that looks good on my 24" screen at work will render exactly the same on a 7" tablet screen. With all that unbelievably small writing.

Aye, really, really useful. And yes, my eyesight is pretty good.

Voynich seems to understand this, others ... do not and just get driven by specs, nothing but specs.”

Maybe you need to go to Specsavers? For me I've not had any problems with reading website text on a full HD 7" screen.

I'm not driven by specs - I have experience is using a full HD 7" tablet as well as lower res ones and would not want to go back to a tablet with the resolution of this tablet.
alan1302
21-11-2013
Originally Posted by andersonsonson:
“what better resolution can I get for £150 with Tegra 4 speed?”

Don't know - can't say I have ever looked.
andersonsonson
21-11-2013
Originally Posted by alan1302:
“Don't know - can't say I have ever looked.”

you can't get a really high resolution for £150. The new Nexus has a sharp display but is a slow device compared to other, don't know why Google didn't go for Snapdragon 800 or T4
alan1302
21-11-2013
Originally Posted by andersonsonson:
“you can't get a really high resolution for £150. The new Nexus has a sharp display but is a slow device compared to other, don't know why Google didn't go for Snapdragon 800 or T4”

Keep their costs down I expect
Voynich
21-11-2013
Originally Posted by alan1302:
“Maybe you need to go to Specsavers? For me I've not had any problems with reading website text on a full HD 7" screen.

I'm not driven by specs - I have experience is using a full HD 7" tablet as well as lower res ones and would not want to go back to a tablet with the resolution of this tablet.”

You know why you have no problems reading it? The higher the resolution the bigger android usually makes text and pictures to compensate. Tablets and phones do this scaling so you don't need a magnifying glass to see stuff at high resolutions. So a web page will generally look the same on a 720p as 1080p, apart from the crisper text and clearer pictures of course.
alan1302
22-11-2013
Originally Posted by Voynich:
“You know why you have no problems reading it? The higher the resolution the bigger android usually makes text and pictures to compensate. Tablets and phones do this scaling so you don't need a magnifying glass to see stuff at high resolutions. So a web page will generally look the same on a 720p as 1080p, apart from the crisper text and clearer pictures of course.”

You just zoom out a bit more to get more on the screen - and as it's sharper you can still read it.
andersonsonson
23-11-2013
Got it this morning, I am very impressed with it.

It is very similar to Nexus 2012 in build and screen. The screen sharpness, colours and responsiveness seem to be exactly the same. But its much nippier, and it has front spacing speakers which are awesome.

The quality of it is better than I was expecting and would definitely recommend it over any other 7 inch tablet
Voynich
23-11-2013
Try out GT Racing 2. That should be a good test of the graphics chip!
clonmult
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by Voynich:
“Try out GT Racing 2. That should be a good test of the graphics chip!”

Or Real Racing 3, then install the RR3 graphics app and turn everything up all the way. See if it still plays.

I know that my 2012 Nexus 7 can only handle the game on defaults.
andersonsonson
23-11-2013
The graphics power is the best in any tablet so it handles these fine.

Honestly I really recommend the tablet
alanwarwic
23-11-2013
And thinking about it, the CPUs are the faster Coretex A15.
For the N7, Qualcomm in essence still use a halfway house CPU, running somewhere between the speed of an A9 and an A15.
clonmult
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by andersonsonson:
“The graphics power is the best in any tablet so it handles these fine.

Honestly I really recommend the tablet”

Its pretty much decided.

My youngest will be fine with the Hudl and the big orange rubbery case.

My oldest is more into gaming and would definitely appreciate the performance of the Tegra 4 over anything else out there. Its the most "future proof" of any of the current Android tablets as far as hardware spec is concerned. Benchmarks absolutely wipe the floor with the 2013 N7.

Its decided, Tegra 4 tab for my lad.

My original N7 really is starting to feel very, very old
andersonsonson
24-11-2013
I upgraded from an old nexus 7 and the tetra is much aster. Only thing that is annoying me is the cheap feeling volume and power buttons
Ultraman1966
01-12-2013
So is it only 1gb of RAM? Seems a bit paltry. Also, having power of Tegra 4 with that yesteryear screen seems kind of pointless.
clonmult
02-12-2013
Originally Posted by Ultraman1966:
“So is it only 1gb of RAM? Seems a bit paltry. Also, having power of Tegra 4 with that yesteryear screen seems kind of pointless.”

Lovely wording (yesteryear??) and again someone who truly doesn't get it.

Its a cheaper device. Stick a higher definition screen on there (which has little real world benefit) and it would both cost more and - importantly - be a little slower.

This device, as a result of the Tegra 4 and the "yesteryear" screen is massively faster than devices like the new Nexus 7.
alan1302
02-12-2013
Originally Posted by clonmult:
“Lovely wording (yesteryear??) and again someone who truly doesn't get it.

Its a cheaper device. Stick a higher definition screen on there (which has little real world benefit) and it would both cost more and - importantly - be a little slower.

This device, as a result of the Tegra 4 and the "yesteryear" screen is massively faster than devices like the new Nexus 7.”

It's a bit like putting a sportscar engine in a family hatchback. Fast but not as good as it could be.

For me I would still rather have a slower processor and a higher res screen like the Nexus 7. I get plenty of real world benefit from a higher res screen.
clonmult
02-12-2013
Originally Posted by alan1302:
“It's a bit like putting a sportscar engine in a family hatchback. Fast but not as good as it could be.

For me I would still rather have a slower processor and a higher res screen like the Nexus 7. I get plenty of real world benefit from a higher res screen.”

And when you lob a game on there that starts to stutter, you'd wish it had a faster processor .... but then this is a gamers tablet, the N7 is more of an all round device (jack of all trades, master of none?).
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