Originally Posted by allaboard:
“I willl never get over THAT showdance!!!”
“I willl never get over THAT showdance!!!”
You mean the one where she looked like a dead gazelle being swung around by Brendan?
Why did the judges rate Lisa Snowdon so highly?
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Originally Posted by Poppysinbloom:
“I remain convinced that she was picked for tactical reasons to try and ensure Rachel won. Simple as that. I didn't mind her throughout the series aside from being angry at whoever it was wanted to keep her in the running.”
“I remain convinced that she was picked for tactical reasons to try and ensure Rachel won. Simple as that. I didn't mind her throughout the series aside from being angry at whoever it was wanted to keep her in the running.”
Yeah that makes sense. Judges thinking that Rachel would beat her in the final but not Austin or Tom rings true really.
The judges were at the height of their arrogance in this season. They were still smarting from the John Sergeant situation, a situation they created entirely imo and then thought they could pick their own winner. First by throwing Austin off a cliff and in then in the most obvious example of judges collusion I can think of giving Rachel and Lisa joint scores in the semi-final.
Backfired on them really. They should have taken the risk they did in the previous year to get rid of Gethin and hoped Rachel was more popular. One mark more for her and they may well have got the final they wanted.
Originally Posted by missfrankiecat:
“Oh bless you - I am a techie disaster!
”
“Oh bless you - I am a techie disaster!
”
tis alright, I'm hardly Steve Jobs meets Bill gates myself!
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“Why did the judges rate Lisa Snowdon so highly?”
“Why did the judges rate Lisa Snowdon so highly?”
Maybe they liked ta drinka vodka?
Originally Posted by Miriam_R:
“She didn't get away with anything on these forums, she was slaughted on the BBC forums back in the day (think they were still around when she was, unless it was here on DS).
The were pob picky with Rachel just like they are with better dancer (Natalie, Kara etc), as they then have to critique them on a different level to some of the other contestants if their is an obvious imbalance of talent.
It wasn't that Lisa was great in her own right, but just one of the better ones of the series. Rachel was better than her but I actually think she was better than Tom Chambers (overall in most dances, though not quite all), and I think if it weren't for Camilla's amazing showdance and people liking him more than her and Racel (as some found both girls cold and lacking in personality) then he wouldn't have won, imo. But he was very liked, personality wise (despite some thinking he gurned too much) and, becasue he wasn't bad at dancing too (like Lisa), he could actually look half decent more often than not in comparison to some of the others that were near dire.
When Tom won I don't think he was the best dancer overall by the end (in terms of dance quanity), and I think his Ballroom was better than his Latin (which I tended to cringe at sometimes) but he still seemed to get through even on that slight imbalance. He did a nice A.Smooth too, so sometimes he could look really good on individaul dances, even if not all. People seemed cold on Rachel even though she was a better all round dancer technically (imo), hence why she found herself in the BT, as well as Lisa who found her self there (quite abit) because people always seemed really annoyed with her for whatever reason. It was the usual "she's up herself, she's vain, she's nasty, she's fake, she's trained, she's not gebuine" and all that usual stuff that gets banded around about people's personalites (by plenty that admitted they had never met her in person). But as for the judges, she was better than other dancers below her, so she prob stood out in that context alot of the time to the judges, and to be fair she wasn't rubbish by any stretch. Her marks may have been overinflated, but what's new n Stictly, happens all the time plenty of previous years (so why just focus on her). Ben prob gets marks regularly that don't reflect his dancing, so this year th the judges aren't just over-marking bettwr dances to poss help them along, but anyone now that shows grade A effort (even if the improvement is minisucle but still partionise the celeb that they've improved lots all the same). All is just my opinion.”
“She didn't get away with anything on these forums, she was slaughted on the BBC forums back in the day (think they were still around when she was, unless it was here on DS).
The were pob picky with Rachel just like they are with better dancer (Natalie, Kara etc), as they then have to critique them on a different level to some of the other contestants if their is an obvious imbalance of talent.
It wasn't that Lisa was great in her own right, but just one of the better ones of the series. Rachel was better than her but I actually think she was better than Tom Chambers (overall in most dances, though not quite all), and I think if it weren't for Camilla's amazing showdance and people liking him more than her and Racel (as some found both girls cold and lacking in personality) then he wouldn't have won, imo. But he was very liked, personality wise (despite some thinking he gurned too much) and, becasue he wasn't bad at dancing too (like Lisa), he could actually look half decent more often than not in comparison to some of the others that were near dire.
When Tom won I don't think he was the best dancer overall by the end (in terms of dance quanity), and I think his Ballroom was better than his Latin (which I tended to cringe at sometimes) but he still seemed to get through even on that slight imbalance. He did a nice A.Smooth too, so sometimes he could look really good on individaul dances, even if not all. People seemed cold on Rachel even though she was a better all round dancer technically (imo), hence why she found herself in the BT, as well as Lisa who found her self there (quite abit) because people always seemed really annoyed with her for whatever reason. It was the usual "she's up herself, she's vain, she's nasty, she's fake, she's trained, she's not gebuine" and all that usual stuff that gets banded around about people's personalites (by plenty that admitted they had never met her in person). But as for the judges, she was better than other dancers below her, so she prob stood out in that context alot of the time to the judges, and to be fair she wasn't rubbish by any stretch. Her marks may have been overinflated, but what's new n Stictly, happens all the time plenty of previous years (so why just focus on her). Ben prob gets marks regularly that don't reflect his dancing, so this year th the judges aren't just over-marking bettwr dances to poss help them along, but anyone now that shows grade A effort (even if the improvement is minisucle but still partionise the celeb that they've improved lots all the same). All is just my opinion.”
She does tend to dine out a bit on the "I once dated Clooney thing" and she was bit desperate to be liked by Brendan who IMO was an arse that year and the public in general (I know from personal experience that tends to horribly backfire). Her latin was also pretty piss poor in general - which in fairness was a pretty universal failing amongst contestants that year in general - we had two stunning rhumas, some of Christine's was good, Rachel's was good but a tad underwelming and Tom's was fun but eratic in quality and ditto Austin (very good jive and charismatic paso - and some camp fun with the CCC but some of it was forgetable and not great),
Originally Posted by JohnCurry:
“She and Brendan did the best foxtrot ever seen on SCD and their Viennese waltz was just as good.
Lisa and Brendan's Foxtrot - Strictly Come Dancing 2008 Round 11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M1E4...ext=1&index=31
lisa and brendan viennese waltz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht9zWK0VHSU
They got some great comments on the clips.”
“She and Brendan did the best foxtrot ever seen on SCD and their Viennese waltz was just as good.
Lisa and Brendan's Foxtrot - Strictly Come Dancing 2008 Round 11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M1E4...ext=1&index=31
lisa and brendan viennese waltz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht9zWK0VHSU
They got some great comments on the clips.”
The VW was good I'll give you that and worth it just for the dress alone.
The FT was probably good but it was so lionised it put you right off.
Originally Posted by peeve:
“Perception is a funny old thing. Because Rachel didn't win (despite being the best dancer in that series) and because neither Alesha nor Kara ever got a perfect 40 (despite being the winners of their respective series), we have the perception that the judges didn't favour them.
Rachel received the highest average score of Series 6, but she was simply not popular enough with the Great British Public and there was nothing that the judges could have done about that. And although neither Alesha nor Kara ever scored 40, they also got the highest average score of their respective series, so the judges thought they were the best, too.”
“Perception is a funny old thing. Because Rachel didn't win (despite being the best dancer in that series) and because neither Alesha nor Kara ever got a perfect 40 (despite being the winners of their respective series), we have the perception that the judges didn't favour them.
Rachel received the highest average score of Series 6, but she was simply not popular enough with the Great British Public and there was nothing that the judges could have done about that. And although neither Alesha nor Kara ever scored 40, they also got the highest average score of their respective series, so the judges thought they were the best, too.”
She was a great dancer but a bland personality with a tendancy to spout cliches. Probably a naturally reserved person of covered it up with media training that was a tad obvious - sadly not much she could do about that.
I actually liked Lisa's ballroom routines (FT, VW in particular), and definitely in the minority here, I actually liked her cha-cha-cha.
Originally Posted by peeve:
“Perception is a funny old thing. Because Rachel didn't win (despite being the best dancer in that series) and because neither Alesha nor Kara ever got a perfect 40 (despite being the winners of their respective series), we have the perception that the judges didn't favour them.
Rachel received the highest average score of Series 6, but she was simply not popular enough with the Great British Public and there was nothing that the judges could have done about that. And although neither Alesha nor Kara ever scored 40, they also got the highest average score of their respective series, so the judges thought they were the best, too.”
“Perception is a funny old thing. Because Rachel didn't win (despite being the best dancer in that series) and because neither Alesha nor Kara ever got a perfect 40 (despite being the winners of their respective series), we have the perception that the judges didn't favour them.
Rachel received the highest average score of Series 6, but she was simply not popular enough with the Great British Public and there was nothing that the judges could have done about that. And although neither Alesha nor Kara ever scored 40, they also got the highest average score of their respective series, so the judges thought they were the best, too.”
I think with Rachel the way the judges constantly shot her down for not performing enough in the early weeks sticks in my memory more than all the praise and high scores she received later in the competition. Now that I'm better versed in the ways of Strictly I know the judges were probably being harsh in their criticism to pave the way for a "breakthrough" storyline but at the time I remember finding Len in particular rude and excessive and Rachel seemed genuinely hurt and bewildered by his comments. I suppose the same is true of Kara - we remember the times she was harshly criticised or unfairly marked more than all the positive comments and high scores.
To answer the original question, I don't know and neither do the rest of us. We can do as much conjecture as we like and still not get the answer. Really, you would have to ask them.
Was she any good? In my opinion yes. Did she deserve to get to the final? In my opinion, yes. Should Tom have won? In my opinion no, Didn't he f**k up big time in one of his dances? Rachel was probably the best with regard to technique, but actually, she gave me no depth, Her AT was like a master class but told me nothing. Tom's seemed to be devoid of many of things we are led believe should be in the AT. Lisa's was a good balance of technique and expression. Laugh as much as you like about the Bacofoil incident, it was no more ridiculous than many of the specialists.
Yes we are all experts, aren't we? We invest in our favourites and are quick to write off the rest. I think Lisa deserves a little bit more respect than she has been given
Was she any good? In my opinion yes. Did she deserve to get to the final? In my opinion, yes. Should Tom have won? In my opinion no, Didn't he f**k up big time in one of his dances? Rachel was probably the best with regard to technique, but actually, she gave me no depth, Her AT was like a master class but told me nothing. Tom's seemed to be devoid of many of things we are led believe should be in the AT. Lisa's was a good balance of technique and expression. Laugh as much as you like about the Bacofoil incident, it was no more ridiculous than many of the specialists.
Yes we are all experts, aren't we? We invest in our favourites and are quick to write off the rest. I think Lisa deserves a little bit more respect than she has been given
Originally Posted by Bouzouki Boy:
“To answer the original question, I don't know and neither do the rest of us. We can do as much conjecture as we like and still not get the answer. Really, you would have to ask them.
Was she any good? In my opinion yes. Did she deserve to get to the final? In my opinion, yes. Should Tom have won? In my opinion no, Didn't he f**k up big time in one of his dances? Rachel was probably the best with regard to technique, but actually, she gave me no depth, Her AT was like a master class but told me nothing. Tom's seemed to be devoid of many of things we are led believe should be in the AT. Lisa's was a good balance of technique and expression. Laugh as much as you like about the Bacofoil incident, it was no more ridiculous than many of the specialists.
Yes we are all experts, aren't we? We invest in our favourites and are quick to write off the rest. I think Lisa deserves a little bit more respect than she has been given”
“To answer the original question, I don't know and neither do the rest of us. We can do as much conjecture as we like and still not get the answer. Really, you would have to ask them.
Was she any good? In my opinion yes. Did she deserve to get to the final? In my opinion, yes. Should Tom have won? In my opinion no, Didn't he f**k up big time in one of his dances? Rachel was probably the best with regard to technique, but actually, she gave me no depth, Her AT was like a master class but told me nothing. Tom's seemed to be devoid of many of things we are led believe should be in the AT. Lisa's was a good balance of technique and expression. Laugh as much as you like about the Bacofoil incident, it was no more ridiculous than many of the specialists.
Yes we are all experts, aren't we? We invest in our favourites and are quick to write off the rest. I think Lisa deserves a little bit more respect than she has been given”
I don't think you need to be an expert to see that Bacofoil was an epic fail (however the blame has to lie with Brendan he chereographed a rountine beyond her abilities and in some cases even his own) - and yes worse than many of the specialists - I accept that Lisa had her strengths and Tom and Austin their flaws - and there are shades of opinion but the fact the judges pushed Lisa so much in the end didn't help her any more than did Brendan's attitude that year.
Lisa had only to breathe to attract criticism - the vitriol she attracted has rarely been equalled. She turned in some great performances and imo was better than both Austin and Tom. imo the only couple robbed that year were Rachel and Vincent.
Originally Posted by girlcrisis:
“I think with Rachel the way the judges constantly shot her down for not performing enough in the early weeks sticks in my memory more than all the praise and high scores she received later in the competition. Now that I'm better versed in the ways of Strictly I know the judges were probably being harsh in their criticism to pave the way for a "breakthrough" storyline but at the time I remember finding Len in particular rude and excessive and Rachel seemed genuinely hurt and bewildered by his comments. I suppose the same is true of Kara - we remember the times she was harshly criticised or unfairly marked more than all the positive comments and high scores.”
“I think with Rachel the way the judges constantly shot her down for not performing enough in the early weeks sticks in my memory more than all the praise and high scores she received later in the competition. Now that I'm better versed in the ways of Strictly I know the judges were probably being harsh in their criticism to pave the way for a "breakthrough" storyline but at the time I remember finding Len in particular rude and excessive and Rachel seemed genuinely hurt and bewildered by his comments. I suppose the same is true of Kara - we remember the times she was harshly criticised or unfairly marked more than all the positive comments and high scores.”
Yes it was odd and it did backfire because Rachel genuinely was rather quiet and shy and so never got the "breakthrough" thing. I t didn't help that the PTB in a desperate effort to recreate the getting v Mat mother of all fan wars from the previous year between Austin and TOm and spent a lot of time on that. Rachel was overshadowed by all 3 of them.
Looking back you can see how stunning she was especially her AT which in my not at all expert opinion is one oft he best ever
Rachel was a lovely dancer but unfortunately for her,. dancing is more than just getting the steps right and looking pretty - there has to be some sort of personality and she had none. Every dance she did came across as expressionless.
Lisa was liked by the judges because technique wise she was probably one of the best on any series of Strictly. Perhaps Brendan made the mistake of concentrating on teaching her technique (the hardest part of dancing to learn) instead of just teaching her to just smile, squirm and giggle to make her more acceptable to the viewers
Lisa was liked by the judges because technique wise she was probably one of the best on any series of Strictly. Perhaps Brendan made the mistake of concentrating on teaching her technique (the hardest part of dancing to learn) instead of just teaching her to just smile, squirm and giggle to make her more acceptable to the viewers
Originally Posted by kittles:
“Yes it was odd and it did backfire because Rachel genuinely was rather quiet and shy and so never got the "breakthrough" thing. I t didn't help that the PTB in a desperate effort to recreate the getting v Mat mother of all fan wars from the previous year between Austin and TOm and spent a lot of time on that. Rachel was overshadowed by all 3 of them.
Looking back you can see how stunning she was especially her AT which in my not at all expert opinion is one oft he best ever”
“Yes it was odd and it did backfire because Rachel genuinely was rather quiet and shy and so never got the "breakthrough" thing. I t didn't help that the PTB in a desperate effort to recreate the getting v Mat mother of all fan wars from the previous year between Austin and TOm and spent a lot of time on that. Rachel was overshadowed by all 3 of them.
Looking back you can see how stunning she was especially her AT which in my not at all expert opinion is one oft he best ever”
I tend to think that it was less that she didn't have a "breakthrough" and more that the judges overstated her having a problem with performing. I think she was a bit inhibited with some of the early latin dances but I remember Len being downright nasty to her after her VW and jive and I thought she performed both well. Admittedly she was a very quiet person and not the most interesting on the ITT sofa (though I did like her partnership with Vincent - he seemed to understand her and was very supportive) but I think she came alive on the dance floor and when I'm on a Strictly nostalgia trip I tend to watch a lot of her dances. She's definitely one of the best dancers ever on Strictly.
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Lisa had only to breathe to attract criticism - the vitriol she attracted has rarely been equalled. She turned in some great performances and imo was better than both Austin and Tom. imo the only couple robbed that year were Rachel and Vincent.”
“Lisa had only to breathe to attract criticism - the vitriol she attracted has rarely been equalled. She turned in some great performances and imo was better than both Austin and Tom. imo the only couple robbed that year were Rachel and Vincent.”
When I watched series 6 I was a less avid fan and wasn't a member of any forums so I was surprised when I started posting on here to discover what a figure of hate she was. I found her inoffensive but didn't particularly enjoy many of her performances - though funnily enough at the time I attributed that to my dislike of Brendan as a choreographer and personality more so than Lisa's ability as a dancer.
Why did they rate her so highly? Probably because like me they thought she was brilliant. I wanted to support Rachel that series, but while she was technically good, I never really got that 'wow' factor from her.
Some of Lisa's ballroom were simply breathtaking and remain some of my all time strictly favourites.I recall plenty of arguing with some of the rubbish that was posted on here at the time!
Some of Lisa's ballroom were simply breathtaking and remain some of my all time strictly favourites.I recall plenty of arguing with some of the rubbish that was posted on here at the time!
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Lisa had only to breathe to attract criticism - the vitriol she attracted has rarely been equalled. She turned in some great performances and imo was better than both Austin and Tom. imo the only couple robbed that year were Rachel and Vincent.”
“Lisa had only to breathe to attract criticism - the vitriol she attracted has rarely been equalled. She turned in some great performances and imo was better than both Austin and Tom. imo the only couple robbed that year were Rachel and Vincent.”
You really weren't around during series five - plenty of vitriol went the way of Matt DA and Kelly Brook.
There was a nasty atmosphere to series six in general - I think the mood was created by Sargegate with judges getting very angry about his continued presence and the public becoming wary of the judges as a result. Lisa who wasn't popular with the public (evidenced by the presence in numerous DOs) but was the judges was always going have a rough ride in that atmosphere. Also the judges did a very good impression of creating the impression that if she had their way she'd win and a lot of people did not like that.
I'm not an expect but Lisa's latin was not inspiring on the whole for me. Tom may not have been the best dancer but he danced with a lot of character - I wasn't always his greatest fan - I thought his cape work during his paso looked like he was wiping his bum with it and his latin was at least entertaining. Ditto Austin who was also very charismatic with an endearing dry sense of humour off the dancefloor too. At the end of the day to 'everyone's an expect' comment - most of the people watching and voting aren't expects - they just want to be entertained - and if someone isn't wowing them and for whatever reason they don't want to watch them and would rather watch someone who does entertain them then what's the harm in that. It's better they chose who they watch next week and who wins rather than whom the judges consider to be the best.
I don't think I've ever seen a celebrity attacked by FM's as harshly as Lisa was. The stuff this year, whilst still wrong is nothing compared to that year. And I do think she was far better than Austin Healey.
I thought she was a lovely dancer and performer. Rachel was a great technician but she seemed very blank much of the time and I did understand Len's frustration with her. After all she was a performer by trade. He did go OTT with it though.
I was glad Tom won in the end because of the interminable bitching on both sides about Lisa v Rachel and I do think he did an incredible show dance.
I thought she was a lovely dancer and performer. Rachel was a great technician but she seemed very blank much of the time and I did understand Len's frustration with her. After all she was a performer by trade. He did go OTT with it though.
I was glad Tom won in the end because of the interminable bitching on both sides about Lisa v Rachel and I do think he did an incredible show dance.
Originally Posted by Sofajudge:
“I don't think I've ever seen a celebrity attacked by FM's as harshly as Lisa was. The stuff this year, whilst still wrong is nothing compared to that year. And I do think she was far better than Austin Healey.
I thought she was a lovely dancer and performer. Rachel was a great technician but she seemed very blank much of the time and I did understand Len's frustration with her. After all she was a performer by trade. He did go OTT with it though.
I was glad Tom won in the end because of the interminable bitching on both sides about Lisa v Rachel and I do think he did an incredible show dance.”
“I don't think I've ever seen a celebrity attacked by FM's as harshly as Lisa was. The stuff this year, whilst still wrong is nothing compared to that year. And I do think she was far better than Austin Healey.
I thought she was a lovely dancer and performer. Rachel was a great technician but she seemed very blank much of the time and I did understand Len's frustration with her. After all she was a performer by trade. He did go OTT with it though.
I was glad Tom won in the end because of the interminable bitching on both sides about Lisa v Rachel and I do think he did an incredible show dance.”
I think there was just a lot of hate going around - plenty of people disliked Tom, a few didn't like Cherie, a lot hated the Sarge including one could argue the judges and James Jordan, Alesha didn't like Austin (that was the beginning of starting to lose respect for her that she voiced that opinion) and I developed a bit of hate for Chrstine Bleakley (because she whinged about her comments, her supporters thought the sun shone out of her posterior and most heinous of all - her supporters helped Jodie get the boot - I rather liked Jodie and I think she had a much better tango in her than Chrstine that we didn't get to see I based this on her paso and I could of course have been totally wrong). I'm really not proud of that but there seemed to be madness o' hate going around that year.
I think the hate for Lisa was a bit OTT and mostly to do with factors she couldn't help or which placed in a horrible position but she did not help herself by argeeing with Brendan he was spouting complete rot on ITT - twas understandable as I think she's a natural consoliator with the people she works with (who including arses like Johnny Vaughan) but it did nothing to increase her popularity.
Originally Posted by Sofajudge:
“I don't think I've ever seen a celebrity attacked by FM's as harshly as Lisa was. The stuff this year, whilst still wrong is nothing compared to that year. And I do think she was far better than Austin Healey.
I thought she was a lovely dancer and performer. Rachel was a great technician but she seemed very blank much of the time and I did understand Len's frustration with her. After all she was a performer by trade. He did go OTT with it though.”
“I don't think I've ever seen a celebrity attacked by FM's as harshly as Lisa was. The stuff this year, whilst still wrong is nothing compared to that year. And I do think she was far better than Austin Healey.
I thought she was a lovely dancer and performer. Rachel was a great technician but she seemed very blank much of the time and I did understand Len's frustration with her. After all she was a performer by trade. He did go OTT with it though.”
Think that you have to look at the clip below (yes, it's a whole year later!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhkfQ0d9N3w
Always lovely that you can just present clips like this in discussions about series 6
Originally Posted by katmobile:
“, Alesha didn't like Austin (that was the beginning of starting to lose respect for her that she voiced that opinion)”
“, Alesha didn't like Austin (that was the beginning of starting to lose respect for her that she voiced that opinion)”
LOL
Originally Posted by kittles:
“Yes it was odd and it did backfire because Rachel genuinely was rather quiet and shy and so never got the "breakthrough" thing. I t didn't help that the PTB in a desperate effort to recreate the getting v Mat mother of all fan wars from the previous year between Austin and TOm and spent a lot of time on that. Rachel was overshadowed by all 3 of them.
Looking back you can see how stunning she was especially her AT which in my not at all expert opinion is one oft he best ever”
“Yes it was odd and it did backfire because Rachel genuinely was rather quiet and shy and so never got the "breakthrough" thing. I t didn't help that the PTB in a desperate effort to recreate the getting v Mat mother of all fan wars from the previous year between Austin and TOm and spent a lot of time on that. Rachel was overshadowed by all 3 of them.
Looking back you can see how stunning she was especially her AT which in my not at all expert opinion is one oft he best ever”
It is the best ever and despite not being a particular overall fan of R&V and ever more despite being further from an expert than I am from the moon, I will have fisticuffs with anyone who says it isn't.
Originally Posted by katmobile:
“I think there was just a lot of hate going around - plenty of people disliked Tom, a few didn't like Cherie, a lot hated the Sarge including one could argue the judges and James Jordan, Alesha didn't like Austin (that was the beginning of starting to lose respect for her that she voiced that opinion) and I developed a bit of hate for Chrstine Bleakley (because she whinged about her comments, her supporters thought the sun shone out of her posterior and most heinous of all - her supporters helped Jodie get the boot - I rather liked Jodie and I think she had a much better tango in her than Chrstine that we didn't get to see I based this on her paso and I could of course have been totally wrong). I'm really not proud of that but there seemed to be madness o' hate going around that year.
I think the hate for Lisa was a bit OTT and mostly to do with factors she couldn't help or which placed in a horrible position but she did not help herself by argeeing with Brendan he was spouting complete rot on ITT - twas understandable as I think she's a natural consoliator with the people she works with (who including arses like Johnny Vaughan) but it did nothing to increase her popularity.”
“I think there was just a lot of hate going around - plenty of people disliked Tom, a few didn't like Cherie, a lot hated the Sarge including one could argue the judges and James Jordan, Alesha didn't like Austin (that was the beginning of starting to lose respect for her that she voiced that opinion) and I developed a bit of hate for Chrstine Bleakley (because she whinged about her comments, her supporters thought the sun shone out of her posterior and most heinous of all - her supporters helped Jodie get the boot - I rather liked Jodie and I think she had a much better tango in her than Chrstine that we didn't get to see I based this on her paso and I could of course have been totally wrong). I'm really not proud of that but there seemed to be madness o' hate going around that year.
I think the hate for Lisa was a bit OTT and mostly to do with factors she couldn't help or which placed in a horrible position but she did not help herself by argeeing with Brendan he was spouting complete rot on ITT - twas understandable as I think she's a natural consoliator with the people she works with (who including arses like Johnny Vaughan) but it did nothing to increase her popularity.”
Didn't know that, what was the context of her remark (since she didn't start judging until the year after)?
Originally Posted by katmobile:
“I think there was just a lot of hate going around - plenty of people disliked Tom, a few didn't like Cherie, a lot hated the Sarge including one could argue the judges and James Jordan, Alesha didn't like Austin (that was the beginning of starting to lose respect for her that she voiced that opinion) and I developed a bit of hate for Chrstine Bleakley (because she whinged about her comments, her supporters thought the sun shone out of her posterior and most heinous of all - her supporters helped Jodie get the boot - I rather liked Jodie and I think she had a much better tango in her than Chrstine that we didn't get to see I based this on her paso and I could of course have been totally wrong). I'm really not proud of that but there seemed to be madness o' hate going around that year.
I think the hate for Lisa was a bit OTT and mostly to do with factors she couldn't help or which placed in a horrible position but she did not help herself by argeeing with Brendan he was spouting complete rot on ITT - twas understandable as I think she's a natural consoliator with the people she works with (who including arses like Johnny Vaughan) but it did nothing to increase her popularity.”
“I think there was just a lot of hate going around - plenty of people disliked Tom, a few didn't like Cherie, a lot hated the Sarge including one could argue the judges and James Jordan, Alesha didn't like Austin (that was the beginning of starting to lose respect for her that she voiced that opinion) and I developed a bit of hate for Chrstine Bleakley (because she whinged about her comments, her supporters thought the sun shone out of her posterior and most heinous of all - her supporters helped Jodie get the boot - I rather liked Jodie and I think she had a much better tango in her than Chrstine that we didn't get to see I based this on her paso and I could of course have been totally wrong). I'm really not proud of that but there seemed to be madness o' hate going around that year.
I think the hate for Lisa was a bit OTT and mostly to do with factors she couldn't help or which placed in a horrible position but she did not help herself by argeeing with Brendan he was spouting complete rot on ITT - twas understandable as I think she's a natural consoliator with the people she works with (who including arses like Johnny Vaughan) but it did nothing to increase her popularity.”
Alesha wasn't a judge during that series...
I'd forgotten the whole Bleakley stuff. Yes that got very heated.
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“Think that you have to look at the clip below (yes, it's a whole year later!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhkfQ0d9N3w
Always lovely that you can just present clips like this in discussions about series 6”
“Think that you have to look at the clip below (yes, it's a whole year later!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhkfQ0d9N3w
Always lovely that you can just present clips like this in discussions about series 6
”
Lovely clip and they both were great. Thanks
Alesha gave quite a few media interviews about the series at the time and IIRC she was very pro-Tom and Sarge. I have since forgiven her.
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