Now a new location has been found for FA the BBC might be looking into FA3.
The show was neve in fact axed as we all think but shelved mainl due to problems with the location. now that pop idol has found a new less of life and so has BB this has left the BBC falling behind in the reality show stakes.
If FA3 was to happen it would be based on the the first FA with live shows being held in a studio and not at the location of FA3.
Lets hope it happens and the bbc see what they had in the show that was in fact a lot better that pop idol.

i think theyre using this series as a tester, to see how it goes and whther or not they do a normal full series

There was news of a third series being pencilled in for Autumn 2005. I'm sure one of the people involved had been contacted about it.

I hope it doesn't go head to head with X Factor :S

Apparently the bbc are waiting to see how well Alex's second album goes before they commit to another series so wait for endless plugging by cruella grunt :yawn:

i'll be watching x factor if F.A 3 (if there is one) goes head to head with it. and i love F.A so i hope it doesn't happen.

It's welcome that they recognise a weakness in their format and have removed the Grants from the judge panel.....

I agree - you can't be teacher and judge.

A line I gave many times to my teachers when they gave me a rather average C+ for a lot of my work :sleep:

2 years ago we had CFA followed by in the summer (when did it start?) FA2 - they must have started auditions soon after CFA - can anyone remember the way the timings worked?
Thanks
ark

I think they may be looking to the popularity of this as to part of their decision making process, but I dont think sales of Alex's second album will have anything to do with it. They can use Lemat if they want to refer to a popular ex-student.

I agree with this. CFA1 looked like a trial of the "lite" format used in Fame Academy 2. The second version cut a lot of corners (that annoyed some people) but did work out in the end.

With a much bigger venue (the school hall) for showdowns in this version, some of the gripes people had about FA2 coming from the same location using the small entrance hall as the concert venue aren't there any more.

I look forward to watching this with interest - as I'm sure are many execs...

I do like the central london location... very easy to get to after work should I apply for audience tickets...

I might even buy her album if it meant an FA3.....

I think FA2 was a huge let down after the first series, but there could be life in the old dog yet if the BBC smarten up their ideas. We haven't seen much of the new house yet, but I do agree that a larger hall for performances has got to be better than the tiny venue last time round. I did miss Shepperton, though, as it had a real live gig vibe. Mind you - the trips to Shepperton ruined the live feed for addicts like me!

I'm not ecstatic about the judging panel for this new celeb version, but agree that getting rid of the Grants was a good idea. Unfortunately Richard doesn't know his a*se from his elbow, and is still name dropping like crazy. But it's all good entertainment.

This may be contraversial, but i thought x-factor was rubbish...
And i cant belive steve won, hes so average!

FA is a much better show with a better format.

and thanks to the GBP another average bloke nearly won FA2 but we saw sense in the end.

right i have just spoke to someone that work for Stage, they said so far they have not heard anything about fa3 but they also said that last time they only got asked 3 weeks before the interviews started.

this is also a good site to look out for what show are coming

http://www.starnow.co.uk/default.asp

hope so - that new house is a hell of a lot of trouble just for CR!

if they could just take on board a lot of the constructive sort of criticism that was posted here, it still has a lot of potential i think, and worth doing if they can get it right.

even for CR, carrie and david aren't judges anymore, which was a longstanding bugbear.

Iain

At least that average bloke has worked non stop since FA and has just got another record deal (album out soon) and regulary gigs for his fans that appreciate his music a chance to see him, alex must be a distant memory for her fans locked up godnows where pretending to write an album with the real people who have written it , can you actually remember the last time if ever you have seen her sing live :yawn:

The main plans in the green paper are

BBC governors to be abolished and a new trust established to "speak up" for the licence fee payer
Licence fee to remain - but a review will examine other funding methods
BBC told not to "play copycat" or "chase ratings for ratings sake"
More programmes to be made by independent companies

well the bit about BBC told not to "play copycat" or "chase ratings for ratings sake" is the end for any chance of a fa3

The very bad news is that FA is used as the example of a copycat show in the reports. Obviously by people who never watched the two shows or Pop Idol - let alone livestreaming or BBC 3.

The whole thing is illogical though. Come-dancing Strictly revisited is quoted as an unique, new, BBC show but that just raises the question what iis new . Change the name and the coverage and FA could be just as new or unique as the Come Dancing spin off. The government spins the same old thing as something brand new all the time so a policy announcement that FA was not the old FA but a new, non-Pop Idol FA might be in order. Meanwhile Eastender's carries on as the BBC Coronation Street and Holby/Casualty carry on in mould of every ITV hospital show that came before.

The good news is that the new requirements include more educational and arts programmes - both of which FA is - especially if you show the coaching. The question is if the BBC is prepared to fight its corner and if necessary alter the format to emphasise its not Pop Idol.

Logic is on FA's side. A FA teaching session clearly meets the new requirement to foster the arts and creativity - i doubt if the BBC showed anything more creative than students interpreting songs in 2003 . The only alternative for music would be the sort of stuff the BBC showed in the 1950s with male voice choirs and orchestras warming up which the BBC stopped showing for the very good reason that no one watched. Bravery or imagination though isn't the first thing you expect from the BBC and it will be far easier for them to churn out rubbish that meets the minister's remit and then explain lack of audience by the new requirement not to chase audiences. No one watches, no one produces anything watchable but the government targets are all met - sounds very familiar.

If you win that battle to establish FA as not Pop Idol , logically FA would be a frontrunner for a BBC which according to the proposals would otherwise be stuffed with the sort of unwatchable self-indulgent nonsense currently consigned to BBC4 . If they don't find an interesting way , like FA, of meeting the remit they are just not going to have any audience at all - which will lead enormous numbers of people to ask why on earth they are paying for something they never watch. As the rest of the BBC loses audience, the size of the last FA audience could end up being very acceptable, As celeb FA also shows, FA is also an excellent and fairly cheap way of filling an awful lot of BBC1 and BBC3 hours which also ought to appeal to an organization strapped for money.

The logic is fine. The politics don't seem to have anything to do with logic or reality though.

...and there's the rub. I used to not hold out much hope, I'll be astonished if there's an FA3 now.

Steve (sadly )

anyone got any idea who exactly we need to lobby to try and get them to understand that FA is at its best when it focuses on the teaching, song writing and student development and when it isn't trying to imitate PI (i.e. the comedy pantomine Cowell impressions etc) or Big Brother (i.e. which of the students fancy each other)?

I agree with you & in reality (pardon the pun) Pop Idol is the poor relation to the Fame academy format not the other way around.

Looking at the live streaming today brought it all back how FA can be like when the BBC spend's money, not like on FA2 Lite.

As something said on our site today, i thought the BBC's mission statement was to 'Educate, Info & Entertain'.

Exactly what the fame academy format COULD be doing!

Tez

Not sure if this location would work for a two month stay?
Even with the impressive views?

I agree with Tez about the new academy. On closer inspection, most other rooms other than the performance hall look very shabby, it doesn't seem as spatious as the old one, and it overlooks busy streets. Surely it would be too difficult to try and keep students entirely cut-off from the outside world?

I don't think the BBC will risk a third series. Fame Academy could be so much more if they concentrated on pushing the learning and improving aspects that the first series had, but it all looks too unlikely now. As sad as it is, I think this could be the last time we see it grace our screens.