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Old 20-11-2013, 17:38
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A lot of people seem to be under the impression that people dislike Tamera for her past, and while this may be true for some people, most actually dislike her simply because she isn't that good a singer or performer. Her performances are boring and emotionless.

I couldn't give a stuff about her past, people make mistakes so i don't judge her for that, and from what I've seen most others don't actually care either. She just isn't THAT good.

Just thought I'd clear that up
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Old 20-11-2013, 17:38
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what did she do?
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Old 20-11-2013, 18:15
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Aaron, you may not realize, but you've pretty much just summed up all the reasons why those who don't like her, indeed, don't like her. Past and present.

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Old 20-11-2013, 18:22
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Aaron, you may not realize, but you've pretty much just summed up all the reasons why those who don't like her, indeed, don't like her. Past and present.

I am now aware that what I was trying to say didn't quite come across as i intended. Balls.

Meh I give up, its been a long day
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Old 20-11-2013, 18:25
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A lot of people seem to be under the impression that people dislike Tamera for her past, and while this may be true for some people, most actually dislike her simply because she isn't that good a singer or performer. Her performances are boring and emotionless.

I couldn't give a stuff about her past, people make mistakes so i don't judge her for that, and from what I've seen most others don't actually care either. She just isn't THAT good.

Just thought I'd clear that up
When did I change my name, re-register and write this post?

Must be losing my memory like Tamera does with lyrics.
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Old 20-11-2013, 18:28
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I am now aware that what I was trying to say didn't quite come across as i intended. Balls.

Meh I give up, its been a long day
Not to worry Sir, it was a top class post.
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Old 20-11-2013, 21:12
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So what was her shady past?
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Old 20-11-2013, 22:37
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So what was her shady past?
Fairly standard troublesome teenager stuff. Not really worth going over again on these forums as it will just go round in a circle.
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Old 20-11-2013, 22:51
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"let he who is without sin, cast the first stone..."

Don't knock someone who's trying to grow-up and forget the past - and move on!
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Old 21-11-2013, 01:34
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A lot of people seem to be under the impression that people dislike Tamera for her past, and while this may be true for some people, most actually dislike her simply because she isn't that good a singer or performer. Her performances are boring and emotionless.

I couldn't give a stuff about her past, people make mistakes so i don't judge her for that, and from what I've seen most others don't actually care either. She just isn't THAT good.

Just thought I'd clear that up
How can you say that with any credibility? You and your immediate circle may not like her because of her singing style and ability but it is a stretch too far to say that is why most people dislike her. I have no problem accepting that many people dislike Tamera for the reasons you have stated. However, you only have to look at his forum to see that a lot of other people dislike her because of her well documented past mistakes. Which of these factors is having the greatest negative affect on Tamera? Who knows, certainly not me and certainly not you. Just because you have an opinion about someone it does not mean that is the opinion of the majority of people.
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Old 21-11-2013, 01:53
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How can you say that with any credibility? You and your immediate circle may not like her because of her singing style and ability but it is a stretch too far to say that is why most people dislike her. I have no problem accepting that many people dislike Tamera for the reasons you have stated. However, you only have to look at his forum to see that a lot of other people dislike her because of her well documented past mistakes. Which of these factors is having the greatest negative affect on Tamera? Who knows, certainly not me and certainly not you. Just because you have an opinion about someone it does not mean that is the opinion of the majority of people.
I often think people don't dislike contestants as much for their past indiscretions as they say they do on forums like this. I think it's more a case of they take a dislike to someone, probably instinctively and possibly irrationally, or because they perceive them as a threat to their own favourite, then the indiscretions appear and they're a useful stick to beat them with.

But I could just be projecting characteristics onto others in exactly the same way as I'm suggesting they do onto contestants, so what do I know?

I'll go back to cooing over Nicholas
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Old 21-11-2013, 03:14
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If people dislike an artiste because they don't like the way they sing/perform etc that's fair enough. Personally I feel that judging from some of the comments on here that some do let their preconceptions and prejudices affect their judgement. The tendency of human nature is to be more critical of those that we perceive to not look right, not sound right or just decide we don't like them for whatever reason. This can be further exaggerated when it is felt that the person has an unfairly favoured position or opportunity that is not merited because we basically would like to see good things happen to good people and bad things happen to bad people. Not sure how many times I've read the word 'karma' when people are trying to justify feeling good about an individual's suffering, but it's been used a lot relating to Tamera. So I think it's a stretch to justify those sort comments by claiming it's objective criticism of her singing ability.
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Old 21-11-2013, 09:26
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So what was her shady past?
Theft, drugs, bullying people, stealing boyfriends....

Seemingly, run of the mill stuff for a modern day 16yr old.
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Old 21-11-2013, 09:40
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How can you say that with any credibility? You and your immediate circle may not like her because of her singing style and ability but it is a stretch too far to say that is why most people dislike her. I have no problem accepting that many people dislike Tamera for the reasons you have stated. However, you only have to look at his forum to see that a lot of other people dislike her because of her well documented past mistakes. Which of these factors is having the greatest negative affect on Tamera? Who knows, certainly not me and certainly not you. Just because you have an opinion about someone it does not mean that is the opinion of the majority of people.
I didn't say my opinion is the opinion of everybody else, these are a summary of my observations. If your observations are different then fair enough
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Old 21-11-2013, 09:59
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Theft, drugs, bullying people, stealing boyfriends....

Seemingly, run of the mill stuff for a modern day 16yr old.
And every generation from the 1970s onwards to some degree.
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Old 21-11-2013, 10:47
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A lot of people seem to be under the impression that people dislike Tamera for her past, and while this may be true for some people, most actually dislike her simply because she isn't that good a singer or performer. Her performances are boring and emotionless.

I couldn't give a stuff about her past, people make mistakes so i don't judge her for that, and from what I've seen most others don't actually care either. She just isn't THAT good.

Just thought I'd clear that up
Beautiful post.
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Old 21-11-2013, 10:49
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And every generation from the 1970s onwards to some degree.
I can safely say I don't know anyone that does drugs (and brags about it), steals from shops or goes and steals other peoples boyfriend/girlfriends.

But, maybe that's just because my friends are decent people?
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Old 21-11-2013, 11:33
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Some people like her singing, some people don't - people have different tastes. Some people think Cheryl Cole is a great singer but I certainly think she is terrible, same applies with Rihanna...each to their own preferences...I think Leona is a top class singer yet some people think she is crap!!
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Old 21-11-2013, 11:47
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I can safely say I don't know anyone that does drugs (and brags about it), steals from shops or goes and steals other peoples boyfriend/girlfriends.

But, maybe that's just because my friends are decent people?
Did you know that in Heaven all the interesting people are missing!
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Old 21-11-2013, 13:26
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I can safely say I don't know anyone that does drugs (and brags about it), steals from shops or goes and steals other peoples boyfriend/girlfriends.

But, maybe that's just because my friends are decent people?
Neither do I. Don't know anybody who assaults people either. Supposedly being a decent person these days makes you uninteresting yeah okay.
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Old 21-11-2013, 13:30
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I can safely say I don't know anyone that does drugs (and brags about it), steals from shops or goes and steals other peoples boyfriend/girlfriends.

But, maybe that's just because my friends are decent people?
Are you 16 though?
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Old 21-11-2013, 13:46
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When I was 16 (which wasn't very long ago) the only people my age who did those things were the horrible bullies that everyone feared and hated because they were nasty pieces of work. Nobody I would ever want to associate with, but if you find that type of thing more interesting than decent people who actually care about other's feelings then that's fine for you.
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Old 21-11-2013, 13:52
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I agree with the OP - my dislike of her came after I saw her smug smile when she dumped the others in her so-called trio. Her expression was like - "I know I'm better than them." Afterwards when she messed up her on stage auditions I laughed and thought - she's just a pretty face - nothing more. Then later when all the stuff about her being mean to people at her school came out that was just the icing on the cake which proved my point. Since then she's done nothing performance wise that makes me think she's living up to all the OTT hype.
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Old 21-11-2013, 13:55
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Did you know that in Heaven all the interesting people are missing!
Haha - nicely put!
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Old 21-11-2013, 14:06
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When I was 16 (which wasn't very long ago) the only people my age who did those things were the horrible bullies that everyone feared and hated because they were nasty pieces of work. Nobody I would ever want to associate with, but if you find that type of thing more interesting than decent people who actually care about other's feelings then that's fine for you.
Your limited experience is just that - limited experience. And it has left you with a slightly skewed view of the world.

Not everyone who experiments with drugs is a horrible bully.

Not everyone who 'steals' (your word, not mine) someone else's boyfriend is a nasty piece of work.

And people who don't do these things are not automatically decent and caring human beings by default.

And people grow up and are not always the same person as they were at school.

If you were as decent and caring as you seem to think you are, maybe you would be a little less condemning and prepared to give people a second chance.
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