I agree - I don't like her. Just watching her arguing with Amy about beauty pageants. Why should she have a go at her for making the most of her assets when she was born naturally beautiful? If someone is naturally clever no one has a go at them about that.

The editing of Lucy is fine as far as I'm concerned. Surely it is only the after show that has called her a bitch without any foundation as far as we can see on the main show. I like her a lot but that doesn't mean I'm blind to anything negative. She did manipulate the situation with Matthew. This is what happened:

What do you mean by the above ^^^?

What arguement? They had an open and frank discussion ..

I assumed pat was getting at me but happy to be proved wrong

I don't need to prove you wrong when Betty has already said what happened.

Thank you... I didn't think you were being critical towards me ...just wanted to make sure
I see the "Lucy is a bitch" agenda is also being set on here

Sorry Love, I should have been clearer. I feel for her, I really do. She cannot start a conversation without it being twisted to the extreme.

ITV2 trying to pin the discussion on Lucy. It was an open discussion.

I meant prove me wrong on thinking it was me you were getting at. However, Betty gave her interpretation of what happened. It significantly missed out that Lucy altered what was said to her but hey if you would rather believe a slant on the truth rather than the truth go for it.

I've Meg Lucy and she seemed very genuine and very grounded and all round lovely.

I agree. I would also add that what I didn't like was David stayed up to win the prize whilst she went to bed. I sorta understood why she wanted the pillow but, was very disappointed that she didn't do anything to help get it.

so what if she altered the words, the end product was still the same anyway... she just said in a different way. Remember when Matthew phoned they were doing a challenge and on the clock and thus it wasn't a slant on the truth, I think you're just being very picky and like I said the editing must be working on you but you know what go for it.

I hadn't actually thought of that but you're right. It was only Lucy that wanted Matthew to do the task and though she expected him to she couldn't be bothered to contribute anything herself.


What irony I'm being manipulated by a particular edit but you don't see the importance of words. The end product is irrelevant. Matthew's camp mates said that they backed whatever he chose to do but she said they left the decision with him. If she had repeated what they had actually said he wouldn't have been so irritated but she may not have got what she wanted.

We are going to have to agree to disagree because we're not going see each others point of view.

Maybe David volunteered to stay up and do the task with Matthew

Have they really been going on about that for three nights now?
Really?

I didn't think that they were making out as though she was a bitch, WOW!
I'm going to tweet them immediately

It seems to me that this year there isn't anyone really dislikeable (is that a word?) so the editing has to be done to create someone that is and unfortunately it seems to be Lucy! I still like her.