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**SPOLIER THREAD** Saturday 23rd November 2013
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trevvytrev21
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by LazySusan:
“Can I join the debate about the spoiler thread please. A few weeks ago we were on a cruise, missing 2 Saturday shows ( watched the recordings since )

When we were in port on the Sundays we had to find a wifi hotspot, which wasn't easy the first Sunday. The wifi was so slow taking half an hour to get in, so a thread that I only had to look at one page would have been really helpful. The second Sunday we were in Gibraltar and The Macdonalds next to The Morrisons had the fastest wifi we have ever found on our travels, for info incase anyone is heading that way.

In the Daily Newspage they print on board they gave us the results on the Monday which amused me as it was alongside all the important world news.”

Love this post. I was on holiday when the series 6 drama was hotting up. How I yelped when the wifi kicked in and I saw Austin was out. The main threat to my fave.

How wrong could I be..
winter99
24-11-2013
Mark VS Ben - Ben Out

- Damn, one post too late
humpty dumpty
24-11-2013
I don't usually come on here, but kind of knew it was Ben as I made the mistake of reading the pro dancers tweets. While Ivettas tweet was something along the lines of 'thanks for your support, it gives us strength to do what we do!' and Kristinas was 'thanks for all your support throughout the series' and 'keep smiling!' I thought they made it pretty obvious?
xflare
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by SliverOfDiamond:
“He does not come across as totally inept as some of the other less capable celebrities have come across, because he has a musicality that the others simply didn't have.”

Acting, Singing and Dancing in a West End musical.... I should hope he does have "musicality"

Tejas
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by fredster:
“Do they want Mark for the final? Bottom two two weeks running. Same marks for him and sophie( from one judge)
len does not criticise him like he does the others. he must go next week surely?”

Have you forgotten the dance off 2 weeks ago? When it was Mark V Dave, Len really criticised Mark's performance and voted to keep Dave in. He got a fair bit of stick on here for being overly critical of Mark!

I think the right person has gone this week... and I don't even like Mark. But the fact is, he danced this week, and it wasn't unpleasant to watch.
Stuart25
24-11-2013
So we know that Sophie and Susanna both beat Mark and at least one of them beat Ben in the public vote.

Also, at least one of Abbey and Patrick beat Mark.
Tommo781
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by via_487:
“Sorry! Not really being a pedant (although it probably came across that way). It was just something I'm interested in.

There are bookies in my family, so I kind of grew up learning about betting odds (and how they can't always be trusted...).

As it happens, I really won't mind that much if Natalie wins, even though she isn't my favourite (Sophie/Abbey and Ashley outside bet ). I just find her performances a little boring (and that's probably because I'm expecting them to be almost perfect anyway).”

No need to apologise! The OH and I are big horse racing fans, are annual members of our local course, and go to other courses all around the country. So we know about betting odds from the other side. Unfortunately, this knowledge does not translate into big wins very often!

So let us stay friends, eh?
J.R
24-11-2013
Given that Ben was bottom of the leader board last night the judges obviously thought he was -slightly - worse than Mark so I guess it shouldn't be surprising that if Ben didn't improve in the Do they would stick with their original choice. Having said that I AM surprised! I love Mark though and his dance was one of the few last night that made me smile and I thought Bens looked way better in rehearsal - maybe if Kristina had 'faffed' less and let Ben dance more the judges would have chosen him?! I actually was hoping Mark would go out last night - even though I still voted for him! He was struggling on the stairs and I think he needs to get his knees sorted before he ends up with permanent damage. Once he goes though the element of fun will go too.
SliverOfDiamond
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by xflare:
“Acting, Singing and Dancing in a West End musical.... I should hope he does have "musicality"

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Why the unpleasant tone and rolling eyes? Was that really necessary? Or was that meant to be another tired comment criticising someone's "previous experience"?
Lordsally
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by BeethovensPiano:
“How much public support for Natalie are people seeing beyond this forum?”

If I am honest, I'm not seeing any at all. I've yet to have a conversation with anyone that is supportive of her. It seems Suzanna is favoured over the others in my part of the world. Another thing I've noticed, when I have brought up Ashley, people often ask 'who?'

Btw, I'm not anti Natalie or Ashley, just saying how my conversations are. If she won, I wouldn't be that bothered, because she is a good dancer, but I would prefer a dancer who has improved throughout the series to win, IMO.

Ooooh, Matt Goss is in the Christmas special along with one of the Saturdays....should be a blinder
Last edited by Lordsally : 24-11-2013 at 13:36
crazy_moo 123
24-11-2013
Happy with the result . Ben was worse than Mark last night so deserved to go . I really like Mark but can't help think his exit next week is inevitable but it should be interesting to see who Is down there with him
Vicky36
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by smude:
“If the judges are as cynical as I think they saved Mark because Ben may have had a bounce vote next week. Two better dancers may then have been in the dance off. Mark is their insurance policy.”

I agree 100%. The judges are scared stiff of two good dancers ending up in the bottom two, which explains their over-marking of certain dancers as well. I really hope that Patrick and Ashley make it to the final - they'll be getting my votes now that Ben's gone.
Mambo Italiano
24-11-2013
Oh Ben!

Right decision and all and he had probably a longer run that he deserved but Beeeeeeeeennnnnnn!

Gosh I'll miss that face and those arms.
Daisy_M
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by crazy_moo 123:
“Happy with the result . Ben was worse than Mark last night so deserved to go . I really like Mark but can't help think his exit next week is inevitable but it should be interesting to see who Is down there with him”

Yes. Next week is when things are going to get really interesting.
Tennis-dancer
24-11-2013
I should imagine that Mark will go in the next couple of weeks though next week he might get the bounce vote as someone has just called it. If that is the case then next week could be a "shock" elimination. When do they go to sending two couples home? My maths is weak but Tess said last night that there are just four more weeks to go and 8 couples left.....
Last edited by Tennis-dancer : 24-11-2013 at 14:57
Tommo781
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by Tennis-dancer:
“I should imagine that Mark will go in the next couple of weeks though next week he might get the bounce vote as someone has just called it. If that is the case then next week could be a "shock" elimination. When do they go to sending two couples home? My maths is weak but Tess said last night that there are just four more weeks to go and 8 couples left.....”

Yes, but only 7 couples after this weeks elimination. It has been announced there will be a 4 couple final. So one couple go in each of the next three weeks.
cwickham
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by Tennis-dancer:
“I should imagine that Mark will go in the next couple of weeks though next week he might get the bounce vote as someone has just called it. If that is the case then next week could be a "shock" elimination. When do they go to sending two couples home? My maths is weak but Tess said last night that there are just four more weeks to go and 8 couples left.....”

There's really no way Mark isn't going home next week unless whoever he's in the dance-off with falls over. Unlikely that next week, or any of the weeks after that, will be "shock" eliminations TBH - the last three bottom twos have all been the same as the judges' bottom two.

No double elimination this year, same set-up as last year - we lose one couple a week to the dance-off with four couples in the final.
Sherlock_Holmes
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by Tennis-dancer:
“I should imagine that Mark will go in the next couple of weeks though next week he might get the bounce vote as someone has just called it. If that is the case then next week could be a "shock" elimination. When do they go to sending two couples home? My maths is weak but Tess said last night that there are just four more weeks to go and 8 couples left.....”

Never, it is 3 weeks to the final, in which 7 become 4 (there are 4 finalists).

As for the dance off next week, all will depend on the placing on the judges leaderboard, Tip for the judges: to get rid of Sophie, it is best to not underscore her (as last night has proved). Perhaps put her 2nd on the judges leaderboard (worked great for Abbey a few weeks back)
Sherlock_Holmes
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by cwickham:
“There's really no way Mark isn't going home next week unless whoever he's in the dance-off with falls over. Unlikely that next week, or any of the weeks after that, will be "shock" eliminations TBH - the last three bottom twos have all been the same as the judges' bottom two.”

Surely there were will be some sort of "shock" elmination in the quarterfinal and in the semi-final, as with Mark gone any of the celebrities left have a decent stab at making the final.

Furthermore, it will also depend how Sophie is doing in the public vote (as she is likely in the bottom two with the judges, starting from next week). She might break the pattern.
Tennis-dancer
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by cwickham:
“There's really no way Mark isn't going home next week unless whoever he's in the dance-off with falls over. Unlikely that next week, or any of the weeks after that, will be "shock" eliminations TBH - the last three bottom twos have all been the same as the judges' bottom two.

No double elimination this year, same set-up as last year - we lose one couple a week to the dance-off with four couples in the final.”

Thanks for the info everyone on eliminations, I was being really dumb over that....blonde senior moments

For Mark to go home next week he will have to be in the dance-off of course and that's what I meant about the bounce effect. The GBP have a curious way of saving the underdog...IF he's in the DO then yes, he will be waving bye-bye
cwickham
24-11-2013
I really don't see how he can get out of the dance-off next week - if there was going to be any bounce effect it'd be after his first appearance. The only way he's safe next week is if everyone else forgets their routine or falls over and he ends up top of the leaderboard because he's the only one who remembers everything.

Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“Surely there were will be some sort of "shock" elmination in the quarterfinal and in the semi-final, as with Mark gone any of the celebrities left have a decent stab at making the final.”

There weren't any shock eliminations last year (Kimberley's dance-off appearance was the only remotely controversial thing that happened all series). Ditto last year, and the year before... it is unlikely that there are going to be any shocks from hereon out. Expect all of the dance-offs to consist of people who have been there before and are lower down the leaderboard.
anabanana
24-11-2013
Does anyone know what dances are allocated for next week? The Rumba would have an adverse affect on the marks for most couples, IMO.
Tennis-dancer
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by anabanana:
“Does anyone know what dances are allocated for next week? The Rumba would have an adverse affect on the marks for most couples, IMO.”

Of those who are left, haven't they all done the rhumba? There's only been one AT so that will be making an appearance I should imagine.
Monkseal
24-11-2013
Ashley, Patrick and Susanna all have rumba left.
Callmepitstop
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by Tennis-dancer:
“Of those who are left, haven't they all done the rhumba? There's only been one AT so that will be making an appearance I should imagine.”

Has Patrick done the rumba??

Edit: beaten by Monkseal
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