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Susanna is not as good
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HeidiB
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by indiana44:
“Actually I'd say that before last week she's arguably been relatively undermarked.

She's got great personality, just not her dance really.

For the bigger picture, her supporters just need to make even more sure they vote for her this week !

And, yes, how dare a non professional smile and look confident ”

I agree with all you have said.

There seem to be a lot of unpleasant people on this thread.
MACTOWIN
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by Cadiva:
“I never noticed her at all in the Tess pit, amazing isn't it how personal preference makes such a difference.”

I would suggest you go back and watch the show if you don't believe it then perhaps you will see it is a fact. I just checked and she stood next to Tess for an hour in fact from when she finished her Dance.
Fiddly_Feltz
23-11-2013
Shock horror.....Susanna Reid is not doing a twirly twirly dance in the arms of a pro and gets exposed.
madetomeasure
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“I would suggest you go back and watch the show if you don't believe it then perhaps you will see it is a fact.”

Totally agree with you, seeings as she was stood to the right all the way through the other dancers' comments in the pitt AND was certainly visible.
missfrankiecat
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“I would suggest you go back and watch the show if you don't believe it then perhaps you will see it is a fact. I just checked and she stood next to Tess for an hour in fact from when she finished her Dance.”

Mark stood 'next' to Tess throughout apart from when he danced. Susannah stood on the right hand side of the screen throughout usually behind whichever pro of the couple being interviewed. It was unusual that the couples did not move around the Tess Pit as usual but all seemed to stand in the same positions - presumably on the marks given to them by the crew. Because of their heights Mark and Ben were easily the most visible but let's not let reality interfere with prejudice!
SwanGirl
23-11-2013
People see what they want to see, I don't see arrogance in her at all she's just comfortable and confident. I notice that the main instigators on this particular thread seem to be Natalie fans who are all too quick to have a go at people for criticising Nat but can't wait to stick the knife in when it comes to Susannah or Abbey. I am not a Natalie fan but don't feel the need to put others down.
Cadiva
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“I would suggest you go back and watch the show if you don't believe it then perhaps you will see it is a fact. I just checked and she stood next to Tess for an hour in fact from when she finished her Dance.”

Which is absolutely irrelevant to the point being made. She may have been stood next to Tess throughout the show I, however, utterly failed to notice the supposed attention grabbing gurning and camera hogging she's being accused of.

Originally Posted by missfrankiecat:
“Mark stood 'next' to Tess throughout apart from when he danced. Susannah stood on the right hand side of the screen throughout usually behind whichever pro of the couple being interviewed.
It was unusual that the couples did not move around the Tess Pit as usual but all seemed to stand in the same positions - presumably on the marks given to them by the crew. Because of their heights Mark and Ben were easily the most visible but let's not let reality interfere with prejudice!”

Indeed.
Thistlewhistle
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by SwanGirl:
“People see what they want to see, I don't see arrogance in her at all she's just comfortable and confident. I notice that the main instigators on this particular thread seem to be Natalie fans who are all too quick to have a go at people for criticising Nat but can't wait to stick the knife in when it comes to Susannah or Abbey. I am not a Natalie fan but don't feel the need to put others down.”

I don't think it's limited to a particular celebrities fan base, its just fandom in general. Championing one person and mudslinging the rest is just such a waste of energy.

...you should be mudslinging everyone! Haha I jest.

Seriously though, I think the rest of the cast left all bring something unique to the show and I'm quite excited for the final four weeks.

That being said, tonight was a pretty dreadful affair for all concerned so lets hope it was just a comedown from the 10fest of Blackpool and next week EVERYONE will pull out a winner. I'd love to watch 5+ fabulous dances.
Alli-F
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by missfrankiecat:
“Mark stood 'next' to Tess throughout apart from when he danced. Susannah stood on the right hand side of the screen throughout usually behind whichever pro of the couple being interviewed. It was unusual that the couples did not move around the Tess Pit as usual but all seemed to stand in the same positions - presumably on the marks given to them by the crew. Because of their heights Mark and Ben were easily the most visible but let's not let reality interfere with prejudice!”



It's not the first time, or even the 3rd or 4th. Once you spot it, it's all you're aware of. Susanna is not stupid and is the only one who regularly works with live tv cameras and imo it shows.
madetomeasure
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by Alli-F:
“It's not the first time, or even the 3rd or 4th. Once you spot it, it's all you're aware of. Susanna is not stupid and is the only one who regularly works with live tv cameras and imo it shows. ”

Absolutely got it in a nutshell for me with that statement
madetomeasure
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by HeidiB:
“I agree with all you have said.

There seem to be a lot of unpleasant people on this thread.”



Really? I call it saying what they think. So you only have good things to say all the time do you?
Smokeychan1
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by madetomeasure:
“...as she thinks she is. That wasn't too good imo. The problem is she's too busy showing off and trying to look sexy that it just doesn't work and certainly didn't tonight. Will Kevin also please tell her to play down on those cheesy grins and expressions when she's dancing. She needs to realise she is NOT the same standards as the professionals.”

Maybe if Susanna had had 16 years continuous dance training she would have learned not to overwork the face. Oh wait...Natalie manages to look like she is doing a Charleston every week too!
Monaogg
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by Smokeychan1:
“Maybe if Susanna had had 16 years continuous dance training she would have learned not to overwork the face. Oh wait...Natalie manages to look like she is doing a Charleston every week too! ”

Perhaps you should stretch that to 19 years. As she obviously was born dancing. Must have been the talk of the maternity ward.
Smokeychan1
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by Monaogg:
“Perhaps you should stretch that to 19 years. As she obviously was born dancing. Must have been the talk of the maternity ward.”

I prefer to stick to facts Mona, but you carry on
MONIFIETHBOY
24-11-2013
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BuddyBontheNet
24-11-2013
I can't work out if some of the posters on this thread are just trying to wind people up tonight.

Do people really believe that the couples stand or sit where ever they like in the Tesspit ???

And I am so glad my TV doesn't have the power to enable me to know things about people I've never met in my life, just by watching a light entertainment show. I'd start believing all sorts of conspiracy theories and not be able to sleep at night.
Fiddly_Feltz
24-11-2013
The OP has titles this 'Susanna is not as good.........as she thinks she is'.

I've no idea how good Susanna Reid thinks she is at dancing but I do know that her and all the others bar Natalie are all very inconsistent at latin which is going to make for particularly dull last four weeks and a forgettable final.
millie3
24-11-2013
If you don't like Susannah you'll see everything she does as negative. It's a shame but I suspect she couldn't give a monkeys what a few on here think. Jason came under similar attack from a few brave souls sitting at their keyboard and it didn't appear to do him any harm.
gorlagon
24-11-2013
(First time posting here since forever!)

Wow. I'm quite amazed at the strength of feeling here. Surprising what comes through the screen at other people.

While I'd agree last night's dance was not good for Susanna and that she overcompensated with her face almost to the point of gurning, I don't see arrogance or cougar behaviour in the slightest. I see a BBC presenter who is a veteran of countless Children in Need and Comic Relief turns who brings a persona of positivity and value for money - as she has been trained to do.

I do wonder why people seem to enjoy the show mostly for the negative feelings they take from it. It doesn't seem like a healthy way to spend Saturday night.
alan29
24-11-2013
Cha-cha .......... bloody silly excuse for a dance. Whats with all the sticking your arm up like a flamingos neck and strutting around?
Don't blame her for getting a bit embarrassed.
millie3
24-11-2013
Anyone about to type off another dose of vitriol about any contestant should read India Knight's column in the Sunday Times today. Commenting on the fact that Rebecca Adlington was in tears as every week someone felt the need to comment on Twitter about how she looked just because they were able to do so anonymously. India ends her article by saying that people feel its now socially acceptable to behave like the writer of a poison pen letter. All those ugly thoughts have an instant outlet in social media and no child appears to be taught that its usually a good idea to keep your mean thoughts to yourself. Most of these thoughts, I suspect, come from other women.
gorlagon
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by millie3:
“Anyone about to type off another dose of vitriol about any contestant should read India Knight's column in the Sunday Times today. Commenting on the fact that Rebecca Adlington was in tears as every week someone felt the need to comment on Twitter about how she looked just because they were able to do so anonymously. India ends her article by saying that people feel its now socially acceptable to behave like the writer of a poison pen letter. All those ugly thoughts have an instant outlet in social media and no child appears to be taught that its usually a good idea to keep your mean thoughts to yourself. Most of these thoughts, I suspect, come from other women.”

I agree that women are the worst, most unpleasant, critics of other women.

I also think that the quality of online debate is generally poor. People play the man and not the ball. Trashing opposers is seen as the way to win in a difference of opinion. Nobody wants to create a positive argument to win support for their views.
Spin turn
24-11-2013
I agree with the last three posts in this thread

Originally Posted by alan29:
“Cha-cha .......... bloody silly excuse for a dance. Whats with all the sticking your arm up like a flamingos neck and strutting around?
Don't blame her for getting a bit embarrassed.”

Well partly agree with this. . I always sympathise with celebs when they have to dance the cha cha and I've never seen a good version on Strictly. There are times when I like it, but for me cha cha tends to be very unsubtle dance (you have to get almost immediately onto the leg and into the hip unlike rumba which has similar movement but has more finesse because there is more time to rise slightly and then to settle into the hip). And it is supposed to be cheeky and flirty....difficult for older women. Given all this, I think Susanna made a good attempt at a dance that was always going to be unsuited to her, and took the judges' comments and marks with good grace.

Originally Posted by millie3:
“Anyone about to type off another dose of vitriol about any contestant should read India Knight's column in the Sunday Times today. Commenting on the fact that Rebecca Adlington was in tears as every week someone felt the need to comment on Twitter about how she looked just because they were able to do so anonymously. India ends her article by saying that people feel its now socially acceptable to behave like the writer of a poison pen letter. All those ugly thoughts have an instant outlet in social media and no child appears to be taught that its usually a good idea to keep your mean thoughts to yourself. Most of these thoughts, I suspect, come from other women.”

Originally Posted by gorlagon:
“I agree that women are the worst, most unpleasant, critics of other women.

I also think that the quality of online debate is generally poor. People play the man and not the ball. Trashing opposers is seen as the way to win in a difference of opinion. Nobody wants to create a positive argument to win support for their views.”

Agree with both of these. The Internet has desensitised people. They forget that those they are commenting on a real people with the same vulnerabilities as themselves. And arguments are rarely aimed at winning over others nowadays.
fefster
24-11-2013
I hated this dance and really felt for Susannah as she was clearly uncomfortable. No amount if mugging and gurning was going to detract from that dance.
However, she looked amazing in that dress. I am younger than her and wish I looked like that. Her legs were fabulous.
holly berry
24-11-2013
I think contestants shouldn't read the kind of stuff that is written about them unless they have a very thick skin. Anonymity on the internet brings out the very worst in human nature
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