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Always seems to be drama with Natalie and Artem
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yellowlabbie
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“Robbed of her jive.

I honestly can't remember her dances, beyond last week and tonight. She will never be up there with Rachel, Kara and Alesha unless something changes.. Her chemistry with Artem is lacking as they're very similar to each other.”

I'm not really bothered about chemistry to be honest, you either have it with someone or you don't, so it's just pot-look.
lateone
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by aggs:
“To be fair, last week Artem and his neck or week before Natalie and the collapse maybe - but this week nothing, so no ”

So no reason to start the thread this week?
trevvytrev21
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I'm not really bothered about chemistry to be honest, you either have it with someone or you don't, so it's just pot-look.”



It's crucial. Maybe that's why all their dances have been missing something, just a thought.
Pices-55
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
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It's crucial. Maybe that's why all their dances have been missing something, just a thought.”

Well I think they have great chemistry and I have not found anything lacking in their dances so far....I dont know why everyone expects Natalie to have the same chemistry with Artem that he had with KaraSurely its obvious where their special chemistry came from.
wonderwheels28
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by Logopolis:
“She's a bit of an attention seeker, especially with the fake crying tonight.”

100% agree with you, she really gets on my nerves, she just comes across as if she is above the rest of celebs, I feel she looks down her nose on everyone.
lateone
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by wonderwheels28:
“100% agree with you, she really gets on my nerves, she just comes across as if she is above the rest of celebs, I feel she looks down her nose on everyone.”

Really? I don't see that at all.
aimeeaimee1000
23-11-2013
Boring - another week of Natalie bashing. Get rid of this thread for good.
yellowlabbie
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“

It's crucial. Maybe that's why all their dances have been missing something, just a thought.”

Nah, the judges have been giving them 10s, there is nothing missing.
MACTOWIN
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by aimeeaimee1000:
“Boring - another week of Natalie bashing. Get rid of this thread for good.”

Nat only gets bashed on days with a y in it so it is not that bad.
trevvytrev21
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Nah, the judges have been giving them 10s, there is nothing missing.”

Hamela Stephenson and Lisa Snowdon both regularly received tens. Thus endeth any discussion about the judges' credibility, particularly regarding the ten paddle.
yellowlabbie
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“Hamela Stephenson and Lisa Snowdon both regularly received tens. Thus endeth any discussion about the judges' credibility, particularly regarding the ten paddle.”

It's the first time this series the judges have nearly got it right, Natalie at the top and the rest hanging on.
trevvytrev21
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“It's the first time this series the judges have nearly got it right, Natalie at the top and the rest hanging on.”

^^Agree. But Susanna was better in her Paso, and the week Abbey did Foxtrot she was the best.
Walter Neff
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by Judge Dread:
“She's awful.”

So are your dreary, repetitive posts constantly knocking Natalie.
Cadiva
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by lateone:
“Really? I don't see that at all.”

People see what they want to see. I was disappointed by the tango, not because of Natalie's performance or because of Artem's choreography but because the music utterly ruined any element of style or entertainment. I was too busy thinking "wtf" about the music to get any sort of pleasure from the dance.
Walter Neff
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by Logopolis:
“She's a bit of an attention seeker, especially with the fake crying tonight.”

When she smiles she is "smug" and when she shows emotion it is "fake", whatever she does will never satisfy some of you.
Walter Neff
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by wonderwheels28:
“100% agree with you, she really gets on my nerves, she just comes across as if she is above the rest of celebs, I feel she looks down her nose on everyone.”

You really are full of crap!
lateone
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by Cadiva:
“People see what they want to see. I was disappointed by the tango, not because of Natalie's performance or because of Artem's choreography but because the music utterly ruined any element of style or entertainment. I was too busy thinking "wtf" about the music to get any sort of pleasure from the dance.”

I'd read about the awful music yesterday but for me, it wasn't as bad as I thought. Abbey's paso music was worse. But both couples did well despite the music.
Cadiva
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by lateone:
“I'd read about the awful music yesterday but for me, it wasn't as bad as I thought. Abbey's paso music was worse. But both couples did well despite the music.”

The music was horrible for pretty much everyone tonight. The trouble is that a Tango requires the light and shade of different tempos to provide the contrast between the fast staccato moments and the beautiful lyrical in between ones to have any sort of impact. Natalie and Artem's music was just one monotonous dragging tempo which, while it might have had the right beat, simply didn't give any sort of musical phrasing to work to.
Artem's choreography is superb and Natalie is technically gifted and usually able to perform beautifully but this was just flat for me.
yellowlabbie
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“^^Agree. But Susanna was better in her Paso, and the week Abbey did Foxtrot she was the best.”

I disagree about the Paso, Susanna was just flashing her frock most of the time but I didn't see Abbey's foxtrot so I can't comment on that.
tortoiseperson
23-11-2013
It's a shame that the pros have rubbish music imposed on them by the producers, and have to make the best they can of it.
trevvytrev21
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I disagree about the Paso, Susanna was just flashing her frock most of the time but I didn't see Abbey's foxtrot so I can't comment on that.”

In your earlier post you were stating that Natalie gets tens so she's the best.. Susanna matched Natalie's score last week and earned her first memorable dance. One of the best Pasos IMO. Natalie is consistent across all genres but lacking in impact.

Abbey's FT was her best dance, out of hold she's a mess.
primer
23-11-2013
there was a distinct lack of drama tonight - if only they'd saved a bit for the tango. there might have been a smidgeon, but it was swallowed whole by the lousy music.
yellowlabbie
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“In your earlier post you were stating that Natalie gets tens so she's the best.. Susanna matched Natalie's score last week and earned her first memorable dance. One of the best Pasos IMO. Natalie is consistent across all genres but lacking in impact.

Abbey's FT was her best dance, out of hold she's a mess.”

Do you honestly believe that Susanna's Paso deserved a 10?
The judges have been giving the rest inflated scores otherwise Natalie would just look too good for them. When Natalie gets a 10, it is deserved.
Cadiva
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Do you honestly believe that Susanna's Paso deserved a 10?
The judges have been giving the rest inflated scores otherwise Natalie would just look too good for them. When Natalie gets a 10, it is deserved.”

Yes, Susanna's Paso Doble deserved the 10s it received.
Tissy
23-11-2013
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“You really are full of crap! ”

Why are you being so rude ??

The poster is entitled to their opinion in the same way you're entitled to yours about other celebs/pros - just because you don;'t agree there is no need to be unpleasant to them.
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