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THIS is how to do a rumba Brendan..
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*Venetia*
26-11-2013
I think the most memorable rumbas were danced to moving and memorable music. Kara's, Samba pa ti & Cherie's Songbird were great music choices. I can't even remember what music Sophie danced to. If the music doesn't move you then you will never feel it.
missfrankiecat
26-11-2013
Originally Posted by *Venetia*:
“I think the most memorable rumbas were danced to moving and memorable music. Kara's, Samba pa ti & Cherie's Songbird were great music choices. I can't even remember what music Sophie danced to. If the music doesn't move you then you will never feel it.”

Sophie danced to "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow?", which, as others have pointed out, lyrically is rather a bizarre choice for a rumba supposedly not about sex!
StrictlyRed
26-11-2013
Originally Posted by rosco2010:
“Kara Tointon left me cold. And her showmance with Artem didn't help me warm to her at all.”

Hardly a showmance - they are still together 3 years later.
Psychosis
26-11-2013
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“I've danced the Rhumba with many different men - I don't see it as the massive issue some seem to - you're mostly not in a close embrace even.

The music and steps help to make that connection and I always felt it was romantic and connected rather than 'too sexy to dance'.

And it's just a bloody dance, I don't get why it's soooo oooooh scary.”

I would take on any level of jive, quickstep, waltz, foxtrot, tango etc that was thrown at me. And I mean, I HAVE. I love them. I found them challenging but ultimately fun and interesting to do. But the moment my instructor starts playing rumba music, I just sag. I hate it. I hate it with a fiery passion. The fiery passion of hatred is the only thing I can feel when I'm dancing the rumba. To me it's a pointless, ugly dance even when danced well, and it's not something that I enjoy doing physically. It's a chore I have to get through to keep it up to a reasonable level compared to the rest of them. It's not about sexiness so much as being so slow, I feel so exposed - to my partner, and to anyone watching. The fun of the other dances is that I can stop thinking and just do, get swept away by it. All I do during a rumba is think and think and think and wish that the next bloody step would hurry up and come.

Rachel and Sophie's rumbas are the only ones I've not hated. And I don't mean the only ones I've liked, I literally mean NOT HATED.
sofakat
26-11-2013
Originally Posted by labasheedy:
“Kara and Artem's blistering performance 2 years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2bNrgEl_g8
(starts 2.51)”

Fabulous!

Hey, thanks for reminding me that SCD was once quite good. I loved this. It was beautiful.

Brendan does not have a clue. Mind you he never has. He is not blessed with brains or any really worthwhile choreographic ability. I'd hate to be choreographed by him. It would put me off dance forever which, after 20 years of it, would be sad thing for me!

Bless you for the reminder of good dance!
sofakat
26-11-2013
Originally Posted by *Venetia*:
“I think the most memorable rumbas were danced to moving and memorable music. Kara's, Samba pa ti & Cherie's Songbird were great music choices. I can't even remember what music Sophie danced to. If the music doesn't move you then you will never feel it.”

Totally agree. But then Brendan's choice of music has always been very naff. I cannot be bothered to dance to music I don't like whether I am dancing swing, AT or salsa.

The music is everything
Paace
26-11-2013
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“I would take on any level of jive, quickstep, waltz, foxtrot, tango etc that was thrown at me. And I mean, I HAVE. I love them. I found them challenging but ultimately fun and interesting to do. But the moment my instructor starts playing rumba music, I just sag. I hate it. I hate it with a fiery passion. The fiery passion of hatred is the only thing I can feel when I'm dancing the rumba. To me it's a pointless, ugly dance even when danced well, and it's not something that I enjoy doing physically. It's a chore I have to get through to keep it up to a reasonable level compared to the rest of them. It's not about sexiness so much as being so slow, I feel so exposed - to my partner, and to anyone watching. The fun of the other dances is that I can stop thinking and just do, get swept away by it. All I do during a rumba is think and think and think and wish that the next bloody step would hurry up and come.

Rachel and Sophie's rumbas are the only ones I've not hated. And I don't mean the only ones I've liked, I literally mean NOT HATED.”

Thanks for your insight Psychosis, probably explains why the Rumba is not liked by many .
Rhumbatugger
26-11-2013
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“I would take on any level of jive, quickstep, waltz, foxtrot, tango etc that was thrown at me. And I mean, I HAVE. I love them. I found them challenging but ultimately fun and interesting to do. But the moment my instructor starts playing rumba music, I just sag. I hate it. I hate it with a fiery passion. The fiery passion of hatred is the only thing I can feel when I'm dancing the rumba. To me it's a pointless, ugly dance even when danced well, and it's not something that I enjoy doing physically. It's a chore I have to get through to keep it up to a reasonable level compared to the rest of them. It's not about sexiness so much as being so slow, I feel so exposed - to my partner, and to anyone watching. The fun of the other dances is that I can stop thinking and just do, get swept away by it. All I do during a rumba is think and think and think and wish that the next bloody step would hurry up and come.

Rachel and Sophie's rumbas are the only ones I've not hated. And I don't mean the only ones I've liked, I literally mean NOT HATED.”

I'm sorry about that Psychosis - I've never had a problem with it, in fact I love it. It's the precision and balance and control - the slow movements and rhythm that I love about it.

It's one of my favourite dances. It's not easy though.
yellowlabbie
26-11-2013
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“I'm sorry about that Psychosis - I've never had a problem with it, in fact I love it. It's the precision and balance and control - the slow movements and rhythm that I love about it.

It's one of my favourite dances. It's not easy though.”

and hence your user name?

Me too, I love to see the rumba, I don't dance but would love to dance the rumba, it's so sensual, to me anyway
RedRoseRebel
26-11-2013
I dont normally enjoy watching the rumba, i always find it a little stilted. i did like kara's. I didnt mind sophies and to be honest, wouldnt know what was good or bad.

Can any of the experts give an opinion on this one? Corbin Blue's rumba from dwts last week, its on at 2.28. save watching the waffling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5zBuW9V5ko
Psychosis
26-11-2013
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“I'm sorry about that Psychosis - I've never had a problem with it, in fact I love it. It's the precision and balance and control - the slow movements and rhythm that I love about it.

It's one of my favourite dances. It's not easy though.”

I like speed and flow and sway and swing and agility. Or I like the passion of the tango. But if you're self-conscious when doing... waltz, quickstep, tango, cha cha, anything like that, you don't have time to think about it. People hate the rumba more than most other dances because it gives them so much time to think about how self-conscious they are, rather than just plowing through it. Like... I don't particularly enjoy samba, but it doesn't bother me as much because I don't have time to stand there thinking about it and wishing it would hurry up and end.

I am only quoting you, FYI, because you said you don't get why it's scary I thought I'd give an insight about why I hate it so much.
Rhumbatugger
26-11-2013
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“I like speed and flow and sway and swing and agility. Or I like the passion of the tango. But if you're self-conscious when doing... waltz, quickstep, tango, cha cha, anything like that, you don't have time to think about it. People hate the rumba more than most other dances because it gives them so much time to think about how self-conscious they are, rather than just plowing through it. Like... I don't particularly enjoy samba, but it doesn't bother me as much because I don't have time to stand there thinking about it and wishing it would hurry up and end.

I am only quoting you, FYI, because you said you don't get why it's scary I thought I'd give an insight about why I hate it so much.”

I like the samba too.

I can see what you mean - it does require strength, control, focus - but because I give it that focus, I don't actually feel exposed - I'm not thinking about anything but the music and the dance.

I find the faster ballrooms more social and fun - you can have a giggle with your partner etc. But different strokes for different dances.

As I said though, I can understand why people might 'feel exposed' as it's easy to topple, to bump into each other etc. and it 'spoils' the mood and the dance in a way that isn't true for others so much.

Does that 'spill over' to WATCHING it too? Because a Rhumba done well is a beautiful thing to me.
Psychosis
26-11-2013
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Does that 'spill over' to WATCHING it too? Because a Rhumba done well is a beautiful thing to me.”

Honestly, yes. I have never enjoyed a pro dance of it. I think the only one I've ever enjoyed watching, professional dances included, is Rachel and Vincent's. Even the competitive ones make me grimace. I don't mean to speak ill of something you like, but honestly, I think it looks ugly.
Rhumbatugger
26-11-2013
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“Honestly, yes. I have never enjoyed a pro dance of it. I think the only one I've ever enjoyed watching, professional dances included, is Rachel and Vincent's. Even the competitive ones make me grimace. I don't mean to speak ill of something you like, but honestly, I think it looks ugly.”

I don't like modern 'thrashy' rhumbas at all - spin fast - push, shove the girl between yer legs, thrash yer arms around like yer in a washing machine etc.

I like the classic moves done well, which is why I'm not all that taken with Kartem's although I can see why others like it.
Psychosis
26-11-2013
Do you have an example of one that you particularly like? I'm just curious whether we're on the same page at all.
Rhumbatugger
26-11-2013
On SCD - Colin and Erin's - lovely.

James and Cherie - very good.

Rachel and Vincent - wonderful.

None of them thrashy, lots of classic moves and fluidity.

Someone put a 'basics of rhumba' video up on another thread (can't find it) which showed two pros (not ours) going through the basic figures of the Rhumba - even doing it very plainly, it was lovely - a well done version of what most of us do - with lovely hip movement and flow.

I remember Camilla being particularly thrashy, as an example of what I don't like.
Sofajudge
26-11-2013
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“Fabulous!

Hey, thanks for reminding me that SCD was once quite good. I loved this. It was beautiful.

Brendan does not have a clue. Mind you he never has. He is not blessed with brains or any really worthwhile choreographic ability. I'd hate to be choreographed by him. It would put me off dance forever which, after 20 years of it, would be sad thing for me!

Bless you for the reminder of good dance! ”

So the judges were totally wrong when they praised his choreography on the show, more than once?

And he has no brains. Wow just wow.

It must be terrible for you that he's a successful dancer when clearly he is so lacking.
Auds77
26-11-2013
Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“Best ever Rumba

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiX0bSspyQs

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Knew someone would link to it

They're actually pretty good together even though Artem gets the giggles.

I would also agree with others about Cherie and James doing a fantastic routine. There's is the most memorable for me.
Rhumbatugger
26-11-2013
Originally Posted by Auds77:
“Knew someone would link to it

They're actually pretty good together even though Artem gets the giggles.

I would also agree with others about Cherie and James doing a fantastic routine. There's is the most memorable for me.”

James is surprisingly beautiful and sensual in that dance - and it's rather funny.
edy10
26-11-2013
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“Fabulous!

Hey, thanks for reminding me that SCD was once quite good. I loved this. It was beautiful.

Brendan does not have a clue. Mind you he never has. He is not blessed with brains or any really worthwhile choreographic ability. I'd hate to be choreographed by him. It would put me off dance forever which, after 20 years of it, would be sad thing for me!

Bless you for the reminder of good dance! ”

WOW at what you said about Brendan . That's one of the nastiest and saddest thing I have ever read on this forum . And I have read quite a few.
It's one thing to not be a fan of a certain pro but is it really necessary to say such awful things about someone ? " he is not blessed with brains " ?

Geez !!! I'm not even a Brendan fan per se but WOW !!!
Summeriris
26-11-2013
Originally Posted by Sofajudge:
“So the judges were totally wrong when they praised his choreography on the show, more than once?

And he has no brains. Wow just wow.

It must be terrible for you that he's a successful dancer when clearly he is so lacking.”

Oh I wouldn't say that he is a bad choreographer. His choreography for that chair in the Argentine Tango was so good you would have thought the chair could move on it's own. But neither the chair nor Sophie had to do much, Brendan did it all.
Sofajudge
26-11-2013
Originally Posted by Summeriris:
“Oh I wouldn't say that he is a bad choreographer. His choreography for that chair in the Argentine Tango was so good you would have thought the chair could move on it's own. But neither the chair nor Sophie had to do much, Brendan did it all.”

And your point is?
Enrique2
26-11-2013
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“Fabulous!

Hey, thanks for reminding me that SCD was once quite good. I loved this. It was beautiful.

Brendan does not have a clue. Mind you he never has. He is not blessed with brains or any really worthwhile choreographic ability. I'd hate to be choreographed by him. It would put me off dance forever which, after 20 years of it, would be sad thing for me!

Bless you for the reminder of good dance! ”

Que tonteria
Smokeychan1
26-11-2013
Nothing to do with Strictly, but someone posted a link to this rumba during a past Strictly series and I have returned to it many times (many, many thanks anonymous benefactor).

The chemistry between the couple is tangible and the lead presents the female beautifully, the dance is all her. I don't watch it too often, but every time I do I feel as if I have just watched a 90 minute movie on the subject of two people discovering the joy of love (first time for her, again for him, I'd guess ).
Rhumbatugger
26-11-2013
Originally Posted by Smokeychan1:
“Nothing to do with Strictly, but someone posted a link to this rumba during a past Strictly series and I have returned to it many times (many, many thanks anonymous benefactor).

The chemistry between the couple is tangible and the lead presents the female beautifully, the dance is all her. I don't watch it too often, but every time I do I feel as if I have just watched a 90 minute movie on the subject of two people discovering the joy of love (first time for her, again for him, I'd guess ).”

Beautiful 'show' rhumba - she's wonderful, lovely fluidity and floor driven hip action, very expressive, light and shade and interesting choreo - a great rhumba - with the proper technique and feel.
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