One of the many things that confused me about Day of the Doctor is that they didn't seem to show how the Doctor and Clara escaped from his timeline at the end of the Name of the Doctor.

They made such a big deal of it in the previous episode, don't go in there Clara you'll be scattered across time in a million pieces, you won't be able to come back etc etc and then the Doctor jumps in to rescue her, both trapped in his timeline, and then, err, what..?

Did I miss something? Am I being stupid? Please can someone explain it if they know...

Indeed, seemed rather strange. More to the point, how did the War Doctor not recognise Matt when he clearly saw him during TNOTD.

Well they probably tried to figure out a way by coordinating some screwdrivers before realising the door was unlocked.

At the end of the Name of the Doctor, I assumed that the Doctor could quite easily get them both out once he found her, and I also assumed they did this after Clara sees John Hurt's Doctor. I didn't think it needed to be shown.

He did not recognise Matt for the same reason that Clara didn't see Capaldi in there. Future events hadn't happened yet. Eleven was dying at Trenzalore.

Because for Hurt The Name Of The Doctor took place after The Day Of The Doctor

The War Doctor in there was not the War Doctor in the special.

They don't all "pop off back to the time stream" when they go to sleep

My theory

The Doctor entered his own timestream so at that point it would then become his real life because that part of his life should appear in his timestream. Clara landed in a graveyard which I am assuming is the graveyard at Trenzelore so basically he carries her back to the Tardis and just leaves.

Not that he would remember them anyway, lol.

So the relevance of having Hurt in TNOTD was minimal to none. Moffat wants to make Doctor Who's plotlines scientifically not understandable. Bloody curly haired buffoon.

The Doctor entered the timestream after his apparent "final death." He was in TNOTD because he's one of The Doctor's incarnations - they were all there.

Up until whatever reset of the regeneration limit is fast approaching.

Actually I think things may get even more confusing because the Christmas trailer appears to indicate that they go back to Trenzalore...

It's still an unresolved thread.

The Doctor's final battle and all that.

Time for that endless, bitter war that Kovarian talked about.

Without evidence to the contrary, that's what I'm going with for the moment.

Unless I'm mistaken, events of TDOTD could have taken place pretty-much any time during S7.

Yes brilliant thinking. Its like they've gone in a great big circle and TDOTD never happened, therefore theoretically Moffat has destroyed a possible new angle for the show because Gallifrey would never have been saved.

For Hurt because in the time stream he's at the end of his incarnation. Not for anyone else! The events of The Day of the Doctor take place after series 7 because Clara recognises Gallifrey in the painting.

No it still took place after

From Matts POV The Name Of The Doctor happened first

From Hurts POV The Day OF The Doctor happened first

Do you have any evidence to support that? Don't mean to challenge you. Just trying to figure out what information people are using.

If we left the doctor full of doom and gloom on Trenzalor in May and now we find him in the TARDIS, parked in the countryside, it kinda seems like we turned over 2 pages somewhere.

Yes, we did turn a couple of pages. Clara recognises Gallifrey in the painting and Matt mentions to Clara how she's met Tennant and Hurt before when she arrives through the door. Case closed.

I wanted to see Clara's job interview, damnit!

At the end of Name-OTD they were in The Doctors time line with all his past incarnations there to Hurt is a past incarnation as he is dead and as Day Of The Doctor happened when he was alive so to him Day happened first

For Matt Name OTD happened first as he still doesn't count Hurt a true doctor and thinks Gallifrey is gone

Clara is now working as a teacher and not as a Nanny as she was in Name of the Doctor.


Some years may actually have passed between Name and this episode (though Clara may of course have trained as a teacher before her stint as a Nanny).


Clara recognises Gallifrey which can only be from the memories she gained in Name (I believe there's a line about only remembering some things).


The Doctor tells her she's met the other Doctors before (happened in Name).

This is the one of the things that confused me as well!
I was really looking forward to seeing how Clara and the doctor escaped from his timeline because as u said DiscoP they made such a big deal of NEVER go into the doctors timeline in the name of the doctor!
My theory is:

If u have seen the trailer for the Christmas special trenzalore pops up again so maybe you see how they escaped in the Christmas episode!

Because it was the 50th anniversary there has to be a tribute to doctor who but with the 50th there was nothing linking that episode to the name of the doctor! Any other year we would not get an episode like the day of the doctor, as there would be no purpose for it! What I think happened was the 50th was just a film like episode that had no evidence to show that it was linked to the name of the doctor!

Maybe when the 50th happened it happened in the doctors past or future!
Maybe he hasn't been to trenzalore yet! Maybe that was just a one off and had no relevance to trenzalore!

I'm going to be very disappointed if the Christmas does not show how the doctor and Clara escaped but I think they will because any other year there would have been a 50th!

It would just be the last episode which is the name of the doctor and then the Christmas special!

One of you said that in the 50th John Hurt did not seem to recognise matt as the doctor, meaning in that time of doctor who history, the doctor has not been to trenzalore and there fore John Hurt had not met matt smiths doctor!
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I didn't see what you're referring to, but I'd point out that Hurt didn't recognise Tennant either until he got out his Sonic...

In Day Of The Doctor Hurt hadn't met Smith yet as for Hurt Day happened first so Name was the 2nd meeting