So this list does not correspond to a list of my favourites...

This is who I think overall is the best dance wise...

1. Natalie
2. Ashley
3. Patrick
4. Abbey
4. Suzanna
6. Sophie
7. Mark
8. Ben

What is Ashley doing way up there? Ashley does quite well at what he is told, but Patrick has talent.

On dancing ability/musicality.

1 Natalie
2 Patrick
3 Ashley
4 Abbey
5 Mark - (Yes I am serious, he has a musicality others lack)
6 Sophie
7 Susanna
8 Ben

1. Natalie
2. Ashley
3. Patrick
4. Abbey
5. Susanna
6, Sophie
7. Mark
8. Ben

Good idea for a thread. I think mine would be :

1. Natalie
2. Patrick
3. Abbey
4. Ashley
4. Sophie
6. Mark
7. Susanna
8. Ben

That's based on what I think is potential and ability, not necessarily what they have shown so far. I think with the right pro and a bit of effort Sophie could be quite good, I'd like to see what someone like Ian Waite could get her to produce. Similarly with Patrick, I think he has an innate ability and just needs a bit more polish. And with Susanna I think it is a bit smoke and mirrors, she looks like she's doing more than she actually is and I don't think the actual ability is there.

Natalie
Abbey
Patrick
Sophie
Ashley
Susanna
Mark
Ben

I did have Patrick and Abbey the other way round, but that was mostly because of her being weaker in the Latin. Her last two Latin dances (paso and rumba) have impressed me.

Top : Natalie





Bottom : Ben

The others somewhere in the middle

1...Natalie
2...Ashley
3...Susannah
4...Mark
5...Abbey
6...Sophie
7...Patrick
8...Ben

Natalie
Ashley
Abbey
Patrick
Sophie
Susanna
Mark
Ben

A few of them are on the same level though.

Natalie
Ashley
Susanna
Abbey
Patrick
Sophie
Mark
Ben

Abbey/Patrick
Ashley
Susanna
Sophie
Mark
Ben

Based purely on cold, hard technique and missing all the magic bits that make a performance...

1 Natalie
2 Ashley
3 Sophie/Abbey/Patrick/Susanna (sorry they all have different strengths and weaknesses)
4 Mark
5 Ben

1. Natalie (2)

2. Abbey (4)
3. Ashley (3)

4. Susanna (1)

5. Sophie (5)
6, Patrick (6)

7. Ben (8)
8. Mark (7)

Numbers in brackets indicate the order in which I'd like them to finish.

1) Natalie
2) Patrick
3) Abbey
4) Sophie
5) Ashley
6) Mark
7) Ben

Just on technique and ability:

1 Natalie
2 Abbey
3 Ashley
4 Sophie
5 Susanna
6 Patrick - don't think he's as great as is made out
7 Ben
8 Mark

Is there a reason you missed out Natalie

1) Natalie by a mile
2) Patrick - needs a better ballroom teacher
3) joint Ashley and Susanna but Ashley doesn't train much so he probably rates 3rd place
5) Abbey - needs to sort her core out
6) Sophie - ditto
7) Mark
8) Ben

I'd like to see them with other pros.

Patrick and Natalie Lowe?
Ashley and Natalie Lowe?
Sophie with Kevin?
Abbey with Kevin?

Ola isn't the best. Brendan hasn't done enough. Anya? Well, I think Natalie's a lot better. I like Anya but.....

Would have loved to see some different pairings. I don't often say this but....

BRING BACK VINCENT!

It is an ongoing 'joke' the poster has. He/she ignores Natalie's existence and pretends to be unable to remember her name.

Oh I see...how very churlish.Its a shame that people cannot just enjoy her presence for the dancing even if they would never vote for her.

I can't be objective about this as I only know what I enjoy watching & how I feel about the celeb will always come into it.

Even after all these years I struggle with what is or isn't technically correct apart from basic stuff like gapping & flat feet etc. dancing for me is about my emotional connection to it all. I could never be a judge I am too partial.

So.

I KNOW Natalie is technically better than all of them so she has to be top.

The rest of the girls are all about level with strengths & weaknesses, good weeks & bad weeks.
However in terms of performance then Abbey & Susanna are better than Sophie.

I have no interest or look forward to any of the men apart from Mark who makes me smile all the time & I look forward to his dances.

1 Natalie
2 Patrick
3 Ashley
4 Abbey
5 Mark
6 Sophie
7 Susanna
8 Ben

Lol, fooled by an old lady. You sucker

To answer your original question Pices, including Natalie is a bit redundant and uninteresting as she is already a trained dancer. I am far more interested in the ability of those not already in that category.

Deleted.

You replied while I was answering your question. The bit old lady wrote was just someone trying to wind you up.

So Old Lady was right then