I don't see what's so shocking about somebody who can't dance being eliminated from a dance competition.
No Way...Shocking.
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Disgraceful. Ben's routine had much more difficulty, so even with the mistakes he should've been saved. Mark doesn't dance, he merely plods across the dance floor. He's been in the DO so many times -- clearly, he is not popular with the public. Reminds me of Lisa Snowden, another unpopular contestant which the judges saved time after time.
Ben had potential -- he was a little unlucky to get a dance which did not really suit him this week. I'm going to miss his lovely smile (and his muscles).
Ben had potential -- he was a little unlucky to get a dance which did not really suit him this week. I'm going to miss his lovely smile (and his muscles).
Originally Posted by 4smiffy:
“I thought it was the right decision.”
“I thought it was the right decision.”
Of course it was the right decision. People are only outraged because Ben is so attractive. He's been over marked and over praised from day 1. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy; he does a lot for charity and comes across as very thoroughly decent bloke but he's a really rubbish dancer.
Originally Posted by madetomeasure:
“But he wasn't tonight. Kristina will insist on putting those intricate lifts in. Iveta's been the sensible one.”
“But he wasn't tonight. Kristina will insist on putting those intricate lifts in. Iveta's been the sensible one.”
Iveta is the former world champ so in that respect is probably better at that kind of thing than Kristina who just goes for lifts and no clothes as a strategy.
It seems some people equate 'energetic' as automatically being better, no matter what.
It was the right decision.
It was the right decision.
Kristina is very unpopular on this forum. As someone who doesn't post here much that does surprise me because always thought she's a lovely girl. 
Bens best week. But he did make a lot of mistakes in the dance off, more than Mark. Had he not made those mistakes or if Mark had made more, Ben would have been saved. Dancing wise they are pretty comparable really, so not really a shocking decision.
Originally Posted by Callous:
“What? Lifting and walking? That's what most of Ben's part of the dance was. He danced far less than Mark this week.”
“What? Lifting and walking? That's what most of Ben's part of the dance was. He danced far less than Mark this week.”
Have another look. Just watch the feet this time! You might be surprised.
How could they save Ben? His timing was atrocious and appeared to forget every other step he was supposed to do.
Originally Posted by firefly_irl:
“Iveta is the former world champ so in that respect is probably better at that kind of thing than Kristina who just goes for lifts and no clothes as a strategy.”
“Iveta is the former world champ so in that respect is probably better at that kind of thing than Kristina who just goes for lifts and no clothes as a strategy.”
Yes with unfortunately the end result looking tacky all round.
Originally Posted by Linda_Dean:
“Bens best week. But he did make a lot of mistakes in the dance off, more than Mark. Had he not made those mistakes or if Mark had made more, Ben would have been saved. Dancing wise they are pretty comparable really, so not really a shocking decision.”
“Bens best week. But he did make a lot of mistakes in the dance off, more than Mark. Had he not made those mistakes or if Mark had made more, Ben would have been saved. Dancing wise they are pretty comparable really, so not really a shocking decision.”
True because Mark is merely a prop for his partner.
Its difficult for a wooden prop to actually make a mistake unless late availability counts.
I think Ben is a nice bloke (they've all been likeable this season, in my opinion) but I've wanted to see him go for weeks. I think he should have gone before Fiona to be honest!
If he weren't fit then people wouldn't be so outraged. He did very, very little actual dancing over the weeks - just lifts. What he did do, really wasn't very good. Whereas Mark actually did some good footwork. His injuries hamper his polish and energy, but his timing is better.
I think Mark should probably go next week - but personally I think that sending Ben home first was the right decision.
If he weren't fit then people wouldn't be so outraged. He did very, very little actual dancing over the weeks - just lifts. What he did do, really wasn't very good. Whereas Mark actually did some good footwork. His injuries hamper his polish and energy, but his timing is better.
I think Mark should probably go next week - but personally I think that sending Ben home first was the right decision.
Originally Posted by yorkshirelass2:
“But surely it's a good result because next week if he's in the dance off again, a good dancer won't get thrown out.”
“But surely it's a good result because next week if he's in the dance off again, a good dancer won't get thrown out.”
Exactly.
I like Ben and would have preferred him to stay, but at least while Mark is still there (and not doing that well in the voting...), the likes of Sophie, Abbey and Ashley should be safe in the DO.
But if they lose out to Mark, then yes that will be a shocking.
Did the judges not give Mark one more point on the live show so in their opinion Mark was better? That made it easier for them to save Mark anyway. As it turned out Ben made more mistakes so they an extra reason to save him. Perhaps they expected Ben and Mark to be in the dance off so that without the mistakes they probably would have saved Mark anyway.
Originally Posted by David Wright:
“Kristina is very unpopular on this forum. As someone who doesn't post here much that does surprise me because always thought she's a lovely girl.”
“Kristina is very unpopular on this forum. As someone who doesn't post here much that does surprise me because always thought she's a lovely girl.
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Really, I always get such a tacky vibe from her. Also she seems the type who "gets what she wants" if you know what I mean. Particularly where men are concerned.
Poor dancer voted out in favour of another poor dancer shocker!
I'm quite glad Ben went. I've wanted Mark to go for weeks, but I thought he did more dancing than Ben this week, and his dancing was of better quality. Either way it was hardly a travesty, I don't think there was much between them... its just that a lot of people fancy one of them!
I'm quite glad Ben went. I've wanted Mark to go for weeks, but I thought he did more dancing than Ben this week, and his dancing was of better quality. Either way it was hardly a travesty, I don't think there was much between them... its just that a lot of people fancy one of them!
Originally Posted by benjamini:
“No Mark did not dance, he has never danced since the beginning of the competition, he cannot dance. He walks around in a robotic motion. He may be entertaining to some, popular with others but a dancer he is not, nor if he was here for 50 weeks, ever will be.”
“No Mark did not dance, he has never danced since the beginning of the competition, he cannot dance. He walks around in a robotic motion. He may be entertaining to some, popular with others but a dancer he is not, nor if he was here for 50 weeks, ever will be.”
Absolutely correct!
He didn't walk, he just lumbered around like hippo out of water.
Talentless, boring, useless!
Originally Posted by cwickham:
“I don't see what's so shocking about somebody who can't dance being eliminated from a dance competition.”
“I don't see what's so shocking about somebody who can't dance being eliminated from a dance competition.”
Me neither.
I like Ben. But he did not impress the judges and people did not vote for him enough to keep him out of the dance off. I'd like him to stay longer, but it was going to be this or the next week.
Originally Posted by allaboard:
“Agreed. If Mark had gone this week Ben would have gone next week......all that has happened is the order is different. In the grand scheme of things it really does not matter.”
“Agreed. If Mark had gone this week Ben would have gone next week......all that has happened is the order is different. In the grand scheme of things it really does not matter.”
Exactly.
I happen to agree with the judge's decision, based on the DO, But as they both are by some margin poorer dancers than all the remaining celebs, it is only a matter of one more week, whichever had been saved
Unless Mark escapes the DO altogether next week - that really would be unfair on one of the remaining couples.
I'm not surprised Ben has been eliminated - he's done the same dance since week 1! Mark will be gone next week - all the remaining dancers are really strong and there is no way that in the dance off the judges will pick him over any of the remaining contestants.
Originally Posted by via_487:
“Exactly.
I like Ben and would have preferred him to stay, but at least while Mark is still there (and not doing that well in the voting...), the likes of Sophie, Abbey and Ashley should be safe in the DO.
But if they lose out to Mark, then yes that will be a shocking.”
“Exactly.
I like Ben and would have preferred him to stay, but at least while Mark is still there (and not doing that well in the voting...), the likes of Sophie, Abbey and Ashley should be safe in the DO.
But if they lose out to Mark, then yes that will be a shocking.”
Yes, that'd be SHOCKING (and will never happen, unless they totally fall apart) Not Ben going out to Mark. This reaction doesn't surprise me, but does make me sad.
Originally Posted by madetomeasure:
“But he wasn't tonight. Kristina will insist on putting those intricate lifts in. Iveta's been the sensible one.”
“But he wasn't tonight. Kristina will insist on putting those intricate lifts in. Iveta's been the sensible one.”
Yeah, Iveta has been sooooo sensible in leaving out those intricate lifts in her routines with Mark...
Originally Posted by Callous:
“What? Lifting and walking? That's what most of Ben's part of the dance was. He danced far less than Mark this week.”
“What? Lifting and walking? That's what most of Ben's part of the dance was. He danced far less than Mark this week.”
Exactly. I have been extremely baffled by the scores and praise Ben has got. This week he improved in 'dance personality', but Ben barely dances or moves! 50% of all his previous routines consisted of him lifting Christina, the other 50% was Christina using distraction techniques and doing all the hard work. This week Ben was exposed as he was out of hold a lot. His weaknesses were obvious this week due to the type of dance. Not having a ago at him personally, he seems like a nice bloke and this week was one of his best dances, with obvious improvement. I was surprised.
But Mark, whilst not the best dancer, generally does much more dance content than Ben. They are comparable in technique, but have different strengths and weaknesses. But Mark has much better timing and rhythm.
It was the right decision.
Originally Posted by Olls~:
“Yes, that'd be SHOCKING (and will never happen, unless they totally fall apart) Not Ben going out to Mark. This reaction doesn't surprise me, but does make me sad.”
“Yes, that'd be SHOCKING (and will never happen, unless they totally fall apart) Not Ben going out to Mark. This reaction doesn't surprise me, but does make me sad.”
It could happen that Mark's fans mobilise enough to keep him out of the dance off next week. Or if he does some nice story.
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