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One Direction miming on UK and US X Factor
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Nissl
24-11-2013
Here's an acoustic performance of the same song from two days ago. Seems very reasonable to me to project this forward into their XF performance. Harry and Zayn have got really good voices now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQYOXjb_R_U

Originally Posted by Hermanazo:
“Here's the US performance. Still doesn't seem live to me.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x17...-results_music”

I would certainly have fixed Harry on that first chorus if I were making a recording to play back.

FWIW I had a little period where I was interested in pop live performances and based on an hour of bored Youtubing they were uniformly flat and cruise-shippy through the end of 2011 and started opening up and adding some soul in early to mid 2012 (first with Zayn.)
_elly001
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by annushka:
“They deffinitely weren't miming, if you have heard the track on the radio (or bought it), you can spot the differences.

But if it's not the miming, it's the performance that was lacking anyway, or the stage presence, or they look tired, or something else...
People usually get annoyed at their lack of staging and jumping around aimlessly, so reading now that it's lacking enthousiasm or over-rehearsed is a new one.

I suppose to each their own: I enjoyed their performance & hope that people who didn't liked the other performances tonight.”

I personally don't believe they were miming (as I said earlier in the thread) but BIB: it's not uncommon for music acts to record a slightly rougher sounding (but still vocally impressive) 'live' version which is different to the studio version, and which they then mime to for apparently live performances.

As I said, I don't believe they were miming for the most part, but I do think they had a lot of help at the end when the song changes key and the more powerful vocals kick in. I don't think they're capable of producing that kind of sound yet. Just my opinion, though. I thought it was a nice performance and Harry is a total star.
twingle
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by Rueben_Clara:
“Did they not perform live on the X Factor USA?”

They definitely performed live as Harry shouted his way through the chorus. They also performed live tonight so I'll take it as a compliment that you thought they were miming.

I could link you to a you tube where they sang this acapella but then you would only say they were miming
clairebear182
24-11-2013
They were miming to a pre-recorded track and anyone who disagrees is delusional and 100% wrong.
Bluestone
24-11-2013
I always find these threads amusing. Ultimately it's a major compliment for people to be so confident that the boys were miming when they just werent.

Actually, one thing about 1D is that they are an act which generally always sing live.
Moboloco
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by Zizu58:
“If they were miming why did they sound so quiet and weak apart from the lad singing the chorus ?”

They didn't sound weak on my TV. Have another listen on YouTube and see.
redcherry
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by clairebear182:
“They were miming to a pre-recorded track and anyone who disagrees is delusional and 100% wrong.”

100% agree. Anyone who disagrees, just listen to their xf auditions and compare
Helicase
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by Bluestone:
“I always find these threads amusing. Ultimately it's a major compliment for people to be so confident that the boys were miming when they just werent.

Actually, one thing about 1D is that they are an act which generally always sing live.”

Then you obviously wouldn't know live singing if it smacked you in the gob.
twingle
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by clairebear182:
“They were miming to a pre-recorded track and anyone who disagrees is delusional and 100% wrong.”

And you are 100% right? How delusional that you can be so right and anyone who disagrees is wrong!

I have watched music shows and gone to live gigs for so many years now that I can spot a mime very easily. It's like when Buble performed a few years back and everyone and their dog thought he was miming and he wasn't and was furious that people even thought he was.

For years these boys were knocked and ridiculed for their shit singing and now after years of top class vocal coaching and with 2 world tours under their belt posters can't accept the improvement so have to say they must be miming
twingle
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by redcherry:
“100% agree. Anyone who disagrees, just listen to their xf auditions and compare”

Oh hang on didn't everyone in here say they mimed through the lives....Make your mind up
Nissl
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by redcherry:
“100% agree. Anyone who disagrees, just listen to their xf auditions and compare”

Gee, I can't imagine that a bunch of 16-18 year olds could possibly improve if they did nothing but sing for 3+ years with the best vocal coaching money can buy.

Like I said at the top of the page, I was surprised how good they sounded in a recent performance and went back to their acoustic versions to see if it was mimed. I was able to trace a steady track of them gradually getting better starting from around early 2012.
redcherry
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by twingle:
“Oh hang on didn't everyone in here say they mimed through the lives....Make your mind up ”

I'm saying they mimed or at very least were autotuned tonight, whereas during their initial xf auditions we heard them sing live - note the difference. Doesn't matter how good the voice coaching is, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
Helicase
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by twingle:
“And you are 100% right? How delusional that you can be so right and anyone who disagrees is wrong!

I have watched music shows and gone to live gigs for so many years now that I can spot a mime very easily. It's like when Buble performed a few years back and everyone and their dog thought he was miming and he wasn't and was furious that people even thought he was.

For years these boys were knocked and ridiculed for their shit singing and now after years of top class vocal coaching and with 2 world tours under their belt posters can't accept the improvement so have to say they must be miming”

Are you a member of 1D's PR team? How much are you paid for posting this garbage?
annushka
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by Helicase:
“Are you a member of 1D's PR team? How much are you paid for posting this garbage?”

The 2 world tours and the coaches are facts... I suppose saying that this might have helped them improve is what you refer to as "garbage".
I find the reasoning pretty logical, but if you prefer to believe the contrary, you are free to do so.
twingle
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by Helicase:
“Are you a member of 1D's PR team? How much are you paid for posting this garbage?”

No I am the boy's vocal coach
rawr
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by redcherry:
“100% agree. Anyone who disagrees, just listen to their xf auditions and compare”

Ha come on, they've massively improved since then. That's just a ridiculous comment.

Personally, I'm not convinced either way as to whether this performance was mimed. X Factor US definitely wasn't though.
Thiswillbefun
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by BelfastGuy125:
“Didn't they sing every week on the bloody show? You'd think the least they could do is sing now after they have had millions in vocal training probably since then.”

Sort of, but they had massive backing tracks to cover their vocals.
dodger0703
24-11-2013
Call the cops, I have registered my disgust with Ofcom!!
redcherry
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by rawr:
“Ha come on, they've massively improved since then. That's just a ridiculous comment.

Personally, I'm not convinced either way as to whether this performance was mimed. X Factor US definitely wasn't though.”

"Massively improved"?? That's a ridiculous comment. Of course they SOUND as if they have improved, because of the backing tracks, auto tune etc
Pimlico_Pass
24-11-2013
Not miming . Louis was out of tune and Nial a bit flat.
Mr_XcX
24-11-2013
When they where competing on their original series they couldn't sing so no shocks they mimed.

Makes me laugh at how X Factor try to big them up like they are the Beatles
SULLA
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by SteveOwen:
“They could've plonked 5 garden gnomes on stage and they'd have had more presence than ID. Woeful.”

Never the less they are the biggest boy band in the world at the moment.
PaulM1983
24-11-2013
There were definitely parts to some of the verses that sounded live (because they were flat), but the bulk of the song overall was undoubtedly a pre-recorded vocal. Some of the sound coming through was too clean and crisp, without any audible breathing at all, and there were several points that they were a little out of time with the track.

If anyone with functioning hearing thinks that the harmonies behind Harry in that chorus were being performed live, I'd be very worried. It's completely impossible for 4 voices to sound like that when they're singing live.
pothuthic
24-11-2013
They did an acoustic version of that song on 1DDay yesterday and were amazing doing it, they can sing.
BelfastGuy125
24-11-2013
Originally Posted by SULLA:
“Never the less they are the biggest boy band in the world at the moment.”

Is that such a big deal?

Now I dont really make it my business to keep track of today's pop music or 1 direction...but havn't their sales figures been dropping recently?

Secondly, biggest boy band compared to who? The world isn't exactly coming down with boy bands atm, because they are an outdated 90's relic. SO yes, they might be the biggest, but if they're the only one of any note, it isnt much of an achievement.

I think im going to leave this thread though. Theres no point trying to even attempt to debate on a thread about 1 direction.
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