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Old 25-11-2013, 19:35
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I've been thinking about the Daleks and events related to them in Nu-Who.
My memory might be wrong, but bear me out.
Firstly, I'm confused as to the pre 50th fate of Galifrey and the Daleks. We're they both destroyed, as was intimated on some occasions or Time locked as in others? Both seem very different fates to me.

Post the events of the 50th, I can understand how the Dr might think he had destroyed Galifrey, but surely the Daleks, who have now not been removed from time, would know that so somehow the Dr had caused it to disappear? Okay, so we are expected to believe that the Daleks blew themselves up with there on firing, but not every Dalek would have been in orbit surely?

Also, even though Galifrey was now safe from the Dalek fleets bombardment, what about the thousands if not millions of them that were already on the surface?

Also, as a side point some people have speculated that the consciousness of the weapon was bad wolf, which is fair enough, but if that's the case, why could it not just make all the Daleks just disappear again?
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Old 25-11-2013, 19:41
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We're they both destroyed, as was intimated on some occasions or Time locked as in others? Both seem very different fates to me.
Both are correct.




The Time Lock is still in Place.


This keeps the ENTIRE Time War away from the rest of the Universe.


In the Final moments of the Time War the Doctor destroyed Gallifrey and all the Daleks (or so he thought)


In fact Gallifrey was hidden and the Daleks took themselves out.
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Old 25-11-2013, 19:49
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Just like the door in the tower of london, did the Doctor actually go and check to see if it was REALLY Time Locked?

Probably not. So it probably wasn't. He just assumed it was.
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Old 25-11-2013, 19:56
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Just like the door in the tower of london, did the Doctor actually go and check to see if it was REALLY Time Locked?

Probably not. So it probably wasn't. He just assumed it was.
What drove Dalek Caan insane if it wasn't trying to break through the Time Lock?
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Old 25-11-2013, 19:57
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I think we are meant to assume all the living Time Lords were on Gallifrey trying to defend it while all the Daleks were also present - trying to destroy it. It was meant to be the final battle after all.

I assume the calculation the doctors did involved moving the planet and the people while leaving the Daleks that were on the surface behind to get killed in the explosion that occurred when all the Daleks and their ships fired on each other.
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Old 25-11-2013, 20:33
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My view is that we're not supposed to think too hard about it. We've been given this explanation which is flexible enough to be molded into whatever the producers decide to do in the future. I'm pretty sure that some form of elaboration will follow, perhaps in the next proper dalek episode which, we can be fairly certain, will arrive sooner or later.
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Old 25-11-2013, 21:33
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And don't forgot Daleks don't remember the Doctor now.
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Old 25-11-2013, 22:23
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Perhaps the Daleks who werent at Gallifrey assumed the other daleks died destroying Gallifrey
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