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Old 03-12-2013, 20:37
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All music is subjective

No it isn't...

There's nothing subjective about being in tune or in time for a start.
I don't see how this is relevant to the topic of a CD that's sold well. You are not even criticising the content of the CD or the style of the music...
Whether you believe that there was pitch correction used or not, the songs on the CD are sang both in tune and in time.

As to their live singing abilities (which is what you were attacking I suppose): Whatever shortcomings 1D had when they were at the X factor, they have had years of vocal coaching, and many live concerts to actually work on that too.
But you are free to believe whatever you want of course.
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Old 03-12-2013, 20:42
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How deluded are you, it's so easy for celebrities to make perfumes because there are so many firms willing to make it for them, it's a production line and an easy money maker for the firms! Just because it's easy to do something doesn't mean celebrities actually put any input into the manufacture. for example, anyone can draw a picture, therefore the band MUST do all their own artwork and clothing range!

Seriously, you have to be one of the most deluded posters on here!, and that's saying something on Digital Spy!!!!
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Old 03-12-2013, 20:50
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How deluded are you, it's so easy for celebrities to make perfumes because there are so many firms willing to make it for them, it's a production line and an easy money maker for the firms! Just because it's easy to do something doesn't mean celebrities actually put any input into the manufacture. for example, anyone can draw a picture, therefore the band MUST do all their own artwork and clothing range!

Seriously, you have to be one of the most deluded posters on here!, and that's saying something on Digital Spy!!!!
So you think I am deluded because I disagree with you! Really! Yes it is a production line and easy money but it only takes a couple of hours and it is not rocket science. The boys mentioned the process in an interview in depth which makes me believe they did in fact pick the scents as they described how coffee beans neutralise the smell so you smell that in between the scents. Why bother with that if they hadn't done the process! So what proof have you got that I am deluded for believing this!! Nothing really just you want to think that so fine carry on as you were and I will get back to my delusions
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Old 03-12-2013, 20:54
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I don't see how this is relevant to the topic of a CD that's sold well.
It is as relevant as the comment I responded too...

You are not even criticising the content of the CD
Whether you believe that there was pitch correction used or not, the songs on the CD are sang both in tune and in time.
The word is "sung" and that statement makes no sense... I would suggest reading it back again.

But you are free to believe whatever you want of course.
Given that my ears still function I will....
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Old 03-12-2013, 20:59
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It is as relevant as the comment I responded too...


The word is "sung" and that statement makes no sense... I would suggest reading it back again.


Given that my ears still function I will....
I quoted what you were responding to, and it was about "music" tastes, not how an act performs live.

I am sorry if my mistake with the past participle was such a big issue that it was hard to understand what I meant. I am not a native speaker, so my english isn't perfect.
What I meant is that the songs are in tune on the CD, and that there is no rythm issue either, which is what you were criticizing.

I will leave you and your perfectly well functioning ears to whatever music you want to listen to.
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Old 03-12-2013, 21:23
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I wouldn't call myself a die-hard 1D fan but I absolutely loved this album. Here is the review I spent half an hour writing on Amazon for it.

I wouldn't call myself a die hard One Direction fan, I have a diverse taste in music and couldn't help but get this album as these boys are the talk of the music world right now and I was intrigued to see how this new offering from them would compete with their first two sell out albums.

Best Song Ever is the opening track and rightly so, having being one of their most popular singles. A pop delight that carries over the sound of their previous album 'Take Me Home'. Then comes the more mature 'Story Of My Life', my personal favorite single from the group which sets the trend for whats to come. The third track 'Diana' has a fantastic 80s feel to it and an addictive chorus which once more has the same sound as their previous singles.

The title track of the album 'Midnight Memories' is in my opinion the turning curve of this album as this one has an edgy rock feel to it, in a similar style as Queen's 'We Will Rock You'. I was surprised at how well their voices suit this style of music, whilst its very different then what we are used to hearing from them, its a pleasant surprise.

'You & I' is a haunting ballad that really shows off their voices well. Both 'Don't Forget Where You Belong' and 'Strong' contain infectious choruses which is well suited to the band. I particularly liked the fact that for most of these songs, each member of the band are given a chance to show off their vocals... and they really do.

'Happily' is definitely single material, catchy verses and a memorable hook which ticks all of the boxes of a top 10 hit. This is a nice blend of their previous material and new sound which should please both their old fans and new audiences.

Track 9 is 'Right Now' and my personal favourite song on the disc. It could easily be mistaken for a song performed by One Republic - and that is a huge compliment to the boys, they effortlessly reach the high notes in this. If any song on the album is going to surprise a non-fan, its most probably going to be this one.

'Little Black Dress' is probably the song I enjoyed the least. I just feel that this doesn't suit the direction the album is going. It does have a very Brit Pop sound which I should applaud them for, considering their success around the globe - it's very easy to follow a certain trend which they are not doing here.

'Through The Dark' was another particular favourite of mine which completely took me by surprise as this has a folk sound to it which I never would have expected to find on a boyband album. Its definitely a highlight for me and one I came back to fairly quickly after listening to the album for the first time.

'Something Great' actually follows on from the previous track quite nicely as it's not too different in terms of style. A mid-tempo song with sweet verses and a lovely chorus. When you get to this point on the album you actually find it difficult to believe this is from the same band that brought you 'Best Song Ever'.

The boys return to the pop for the final two tracks on the standard edition of the album, 'Little White Lies' and 'Better Than Words'. A much more mature pop sound though I have to say, a very fitting end to a fantastic third album from One Direction.

There are also four deluxe tracks to listen to, but I'll let you be the judge of those. I personally thought they are equally as good as the first 14 songs and easily could have been included on the boys next album.

To sum things up, if you thought these boys were a group purely for the teenage girls - that may have been the case a few years ago but as they have matured, so has the music. They are sitting quite firmly right now as the biggest band in the world and after hearing 'Midnight Memories', I can't see them going anywhere anytime soon.
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Old 03-12-2013, 22:24
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I wouldn't call myself a die-hard 1D fan but I absolutely loved this album. Here is the review I spent half an hour writing on Amazon for it.
Nice review! I like that you sat down and listened to it open-mindedly and just describe what you hear...
Good approach Not the usual "they're a manufactured boyband, a cashcow for Simon Cowell, just a marketing product, therefore the music HAS to be rubbish anyway, I won't even have to listen for a second"...
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:35
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They could wrap up dog poo in a package and market it and it would sell by the millions.

That's not a dig at the guys - they've grown on me over the years and I think their music is harmless fun - but it's true of any artist who's main audience is tweenie boppers. What will be interesting is to see how much more time they have at the top. I don't think it's going to be more than a couple of years max, so I guess they should make the most of things while they can.
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:15
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They could wrap up dog poo in a package and market it and it would sell by the millions.

That's not a dig at the guys - they've grown on me over the years and I think their music is harmless fun - but it's true of any artist who's main audience is tweenie boppers. What will be interesting is to see how much more time they have at the top. I don't think it's going to be more than a couple of years max, so I guess they should make the most of things while they can.
Won't comment on your first sentence...

The rest is obviously true, but I think they are very well aware of that, they seem to have the right attitude.
And they've achieved so much more already than anybody would have expected 3 years ago!
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Old 04-12-2013, 08:57
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Meh, little girls, they'll buy any old crap.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:13
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What I meant is that the songs are in tune on the CD, and that there is no rythm issue either, which is what you were criticizing.
Have you not grasped the notion of auto-tune and modern recording methods?

Sadly they can even use some of these techniques live these days too....

I sad sadly because there is nothing better than hearing a live singer who can genuinely keep time, hold a tune and who displays great musicality where every nuance sells the song; none of which 1D could ever be accused of.

If you think their success has anything to do with them being talented musicians then fine, but don't expect to come into the MUSIC forum and not get shot down for spouting such drivel.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:15
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Meh, little girls, they'll buy any old crap.
And grown men will bitch about that crap for seven pages on a forum. I know this is a discussion forum but there comes a time when people just need to let things go.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:51
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Have you not grasped the notion of auto-tune and modern recording methods?

Sadly they can even use some of these techniques live these days too....

I sad sadly because there is nothing better than hearing a live singer who can genuinely keep time, hold a tune and who displays great musicality where every nuance sells the song; none of which 1D could ever be accused of.

If you think their success has anything to do with them being talented musicians then fine, but don't expect to come into the MUSIC forum and not get shot down for spouting such drivel.
Have you actually heard them live? No thought not then how can you make these comments? There are loads of videos on you tube of them at their shows where they change the words, or do different notes or runs.(including duff notes) ....hardly possible with help
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Old 04-12-2013, 11:24
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I don't see how this is relevant to the topic of a CD that's sold well. You are not even criticising the content of the CD or the style of the music...
Whether you believe that there was pitch correction used or not, the songs on the CD are sang both in tune and in time.

As to their live singing abilities (which is what you were attacking I suppose): Whatever shortcomings 1D had when they were at the X factor, they have had years of vocal coaching, and many live concerts to actually work on that too.
But you are free to believe whatever you want of course.
Have you not grasped the notion of auto-tune and modern recording methods?

Sadly they can even use some of these techniques live these days too....

I sad sadly because there is nothing better than hearing a live singer who can genuinely keep time, hold a tune and who displays great musicality where every nuance sells the song; none of which 1D could ever be accused of.

If you think their success has anything to do with them being talented musicians then fine, but don't expect to come into the MUSIC forum and not get shot down for spouting such drivel.
Have you read my first reply?

You were criticizing their live performances (which you probably haven't seen recently) in reply to someone who was talking about music being a matter of individual taste -it was about the songs and the style of music they are offering.
My reply was very clear: however good or bad they are live, it has no bearing on the CD's quality and the music style that they are selling on their CD (whether you believe or not that a massive dose of tweaking was involved).

I don't care whether we are on the MUSIC forum or some other forum. I don't really care if you feel that you shot me down and came on top victoriously.
I was just pointing out that anyone's live singing abilities doesn't have necessarily anything to do with the quality & style of their musical output.

I suppose you disagree, if that's your opinion: OK.
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Old 04-12-2013, 13:04
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No it isn't...

There's nothing subjective about being in tune or in time for a start.
True, but 1D are in tune and in time so opinions on them then become subjective.
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Old 04-12-2013, 13:05
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Meh, little girls, they'll buy any old crap.
Have you done a statistical analysis of who is buying their albums then?
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Old 04-12-2013, 13:47
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True, but 1D are in tune and in time
Assuming you even know what "in tune" means feel free to post the evidence...

It shouldn't be too hard given how much of their detritus YouTube is littered with.

My reply was very clear: however good or bad they are live, it has no bearing on the CD's quality and the music style that they are selling on their CD (whether you believe or not that a massive dose of tweaking was involved).
Well that's OK then, as long as the processing can sort it out...

Really quite sad that people find that acceptable.
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Old 04-12-2013, 14:10
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Assuming you even know what "in tune" means feel free to post the evidence...

It shouldn't be too hard given how much of their detritus YouTube is littered with.


Well that's OK then, as long as the processing can sort it out...

Really quite sad that people find that acceptable.
It's also really quite sad that someone can't accept that people have different tastes in music.

But keep it up, you're amusing me.
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Old 04-12-2013, 15:50
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Assuming you even know what "in tune" means feel free to post the evidence...

It shouldn't be too hard given how much of their detritus YouTube is littered with.
So now you are an expert who knows better than the rest of us... The internet is full of "experts", but I won't insult you by posing as one.
I am a casual music listener, from what I have heard of their live performances, they have been constantly improving, and have become a pretty good live act. I enjoy them.

Well that's OK then, as long as the processing can sort it out...

Really quite sad that people find that acceptable.
I believe Katy Perry has no issue selling despite the fact that her live performances can be dodgy. Britney sold a lot and still sells despite not having the best voice either. The list is endless actually...
A catchy tune is a catchy tune, and if the studio performance is good, people buy it. Nobody is forcing anyone to go to the concert, but if anyone wants to go, I have better things to do than knock them down for it tbh. I just hope that they'll enjoy themselves, it's the aim.
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Old 04-12-2013, 16:23
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It's also really quite sad that someone can't accept that people have different tastes in music..
I can't imagine what you think taste has to do with staying in tune or not...

So now you are an expert who knows better than the rest of us...
So you speak for others now do you?

I have yet to see a single credible music critic rave about their vocal abilities either, so I'm not sure who this "rest of us" is...
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Old 04-12-2013, 16:39
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Have you done a statistical analysis of who is buying their albums then?
While the poster was somewhat generalising, I don't think you can argue about who are buying their albums surely? even the most ardent fan would have concede the general demographic is very young girls.

I might be the only one that feels this way, but I find anyone over the age of 18 (or so) obsessing over this group, just a little creepy.

Many people, with more than a casual interest in music, find them (or more what they represent) particularly offensive because they fly in the face of everything that they hold dear i.e a creative, organic process that ends with up with the composers actually performing the songs. The songs on their album, might be well constructed pop songs, but it's at the end of a long cynical process that has been diluted along the way. The listening experience for some is not the same as the casual music listener's who don't really care where the music came from, as long as it sounds catchy, and they can look at pretty boys.

It's like people who buy books by Katie Price, they need a bit of trash reading material, and don't care whether or not it was actually written by her.
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Old 04-12-2013, 16:51
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I think one important point to consider is, if they were ugly munters, or even average looking would they still sell as many records, would they even have got signed or done so well on the X Factor?

Their vocals talents would still be the same.........so looks shouldn't matter, right???????
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Old 04-12-2013, 16:53
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So you think I am deluded because I disagree with you! Really! Yes it is a production line and easy money but it only takes a couple of hours and it is not rocket science. The boys mentioned the process in an interview in depth which makes me believe they did in fact pick the scents as they described how coffee beans neutralise the smell so you smell that in between the scents. Why bother with that if they hadn't done the process! So what proof have you got that I am deluded for believing this!! Nothing really just you want to think that so fine carry on as you were and I will get back to my delusions
Just proves they listened well during the tour of the processing plant, proves nothing.
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Old 04-12-2013, 17:04
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While the poster was somewhat generalising, I don't think you can argue about who are buying their albums surely? even the most ardent fan would have concede the general demographic is very young girls.

I might be the only one that feels this way, but I find anyone over the age of 18 (or so) obsessing over this group, just a little creepy.

Many people, with more than a casual interest in music, find them (or more what they represent) particularly offensive because they fly in the face of everything that they hold dear i.e a creative, organic process that ends with up with the composers actually performing the songs. The songs on their album, might be well constructed pop songs, but it's at the end of a long cynical process that has been diluted along the way. The listening experience for some is not the same as the casual music listener's who don't really care where the music came from, as long as it sounds catchy, and they can look at pretty boys.

It's like people who buy books by Katie Price, they need a bit of trash reading material, and don't care whether or not it was actually written by her.
People who praise their music should be made fully aware that it's akin to praising a Katie Price autobiography for it's writing. I believe that's the only way we can teach the children and learn them how to improve.
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Old 04-12-2013, 17:50
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creative, organic process that ends with up with the composers actually performing the songs.
Whilst I agree with the gist of your post as a whole I have never held with this particular view...

There are many extremely talented song writers/composers who couldn't hold a tune to save their lives, and plenty more who I wish hadn't tried! Likewise some of the greatest singers ever to draw breath have never written a note.

To draw on an extreme example from a different genre I don't know too many opera singers who have written an opera.

A good singer will always add something of themselves to a song in the form of artistic interpretation regardless of whether they contributed to the actual writing...
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